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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/StoolBaseball/status/1689349774766432256
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Aug 10, 2023 17:28
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Intruder posted:As of the deadline Ohtani had over 8 bWAR (not sure exactly how much, it's 9 exactly now so I presume around 8.5ish)
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Aug 10, 2023 17:29
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So barring a ridiculous end of the season I guess he's not catching Ruth as the single season leader either then (14.1)
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Aug 10, 2023 17:31
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bawfuls posted:8.5 WAR in four months is a 4.25 WAR pace in two months. No way he's putting up 6 WAR in August and September alone, that's insane. But if he somehow did, yeah he'd win both awards imo. There's no hard and fast rule about MVP qualification. It'd still be the first time an MVP was traded during the season right? McGwire was great in 97 but he didn't actually win MVP, that was Griffey. I'm presuming that Ohtani would be guaranteed to win AL MVP even if he broke both legs on August 1st, I can't think of anyone who could catch up to him.
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Aug 10, 2023 17:35
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zoux posted:Quite a journey Look at that light tower - had to move the division banners elsewhere since the Stros decided to start just winning ships.
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Aug 10, 2023 17:40
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https://twitter.com/MikeGianella/status/1689677819205275649
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Aug 10, 2023 17:44
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Yeah I hear they're throwing AAAs now.
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Aug 10, 2023 17:45
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fast cars loose anus posted:Surely there is someone in the minors who can eat innings at a better clip than *checks baseball reference* an 8.06 ERA and -2 WAR Sure but I think he’s out of options so they gotta send someone else down to bring up a replacement for him. They’re already at 13 pitchers on the roster so it’s either someone gets hurt (I doubt he’d accept a phantom IL stint after the 60-day shenanigans they pulled on him) or they send a bullpen arm down and are stuck with him taking up a roster spot anyway. This is moot in a couple weeks anyway assuming they call up Brito when the roster expands to 28. I guess they could DFA him but that’d send a pretty bad message to potential free agent signings, especially since this season has been over for them for a month.
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Aug 10, 2023 17:46
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Sab0921 posted:Look at that light tower - had to move the division banners elsewhere since the Stros decided to start just winning ships. yeah now they're just up on the walls along the upper decks now
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Aug 10, 2023 17:48
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Sevy is a FA after the season and is showing no signs of unfucking himself, I don't see what the problem with cutting bait would be if you're hoping to salvage the season which I assume they still are even if most of us consider it a lost cause by now
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Aug 10, 2023 17:48
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Well Played Mauer posted:Sure but I think he’s out of options so they gotta send someone else down to bring up a replacement for him. They’re already at 13 pitchers on the roster so it’s either someone gets hurt (I doubt he’d accept a phantom IL stint after the 60-day shenanigans they pulled on him) or they send a bullpen arm down and are stuck with him taking up a roster spot anyway. I didn't mean cut him or send him down, he's a FA after the year anyway. But they didn't have start him twice after his literally said his confidence was shot lol
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Aug 10, 2023 17:49
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Yeah my point is you can’t call up a starter as a replacement until someone gets hurt or sent down, and bullpen days are hard to pull off when you have a rotation that averages like 5.2 innings per start. I’m probably overthinking this but what else is there to do with this assemblage of mediocrity with no hope for improvement in the next several years.
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Aug 10, 2023 17:56
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https://twitter.com/MLBMetrics/status/1689685116988137474 Bonkers power
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Aug 10, 2023 18:13
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Yordan smoked one to that same spot and even he couldn't quite hit it out e: on Tuesday I mean not today
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Aug 10, 2023 18:18
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/StoolBaseball/status/1689349774766432256 maybe she thought he said Kyle Tucker and by the time she found out it was too late
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Aug 10, 2023 18:23
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Tony Phillips posted:Oh yeah. You're welcome, baseball. In that 16 days they also Tungsten Arm'd Ohtani at the funniest time possible. I never realized Nevin is actually Cotton Hill until now.
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Aug 10, 2023 18:26
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Someone needs to airlift Shohei out of Angel stadium like Moe does with the fan jetpack in the boxing episode.
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Aug 10, 2023 18:28
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serious question, who is your guys favorite over 30 who finally broke into the starting lineup at the big league level player this season? lol already know the answer, it's Tauchman. less Yankees and more Tauch Talk!
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Aug 10, 2023 18:31
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maffew buildings posted:serious question, who is your guys favorite over 30 who finally broke into the starting lineup at the big league level player this season? lol already know the answer, it's Tauchman. less Yankees and more Tauch Talk! 
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Aug 10, 2023 18:32
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maffew buildings posted:serious question, who is your guys favorite over 30 who finally broke into the starting lineup at the big league level player this season? lol already know the answer, it's Tauchman. less Yankees and more Tauch Talk! It was Schwindel until it was Wisdom and now it's Tauchman
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Aug 10, 2023 18:33
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maffew buildings posted:serious question, who is your guys favorite over 30 who finally broke into the starting lineup at the big league level player this season? lol already know the answer, it's Tauchman. less Yankees and more Tauch Talk! Ryan O'Hearn only just turned 30 but he was terrible for years with the Royals and then has the highest OPS on the Orioles this year (although he doesn't have enough PA to qualify)
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Aug 10, 2023 18:35
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duomo posted:I never realized Nevin is actually Cotton Hill until now. Um if this was true I don't think ohtani would be in that picture
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Aug 10, 2023 18:36
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Intruder posted:If he had been traded to the NL, let's say he puts up... 6-7 bWAR. Is it possible for one player to win both MVP awards or would he not be qualified for either? Assuming the same rules as Cy Young, Rick Sutcliffe won the NL Cy in 84 after being traded from Cleveland to the Cubbies. His AL stats were a 4-5, 5.15 ERA in 15 starts and he turned into a 16-1 2.69 in 20 starts with the Cubs. So he'd be at least eligible for NL votes. Overall stats were 20-6 but a mediocre 3.64 ERA so it looks like they only looked at his NL stats. McGwire looks like he got down ballot NL votes his trade year too, but no AL votes.
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Aug 10, 2023 18:42
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Incitatus posted:Um if this was true I don't think ohtani would be in that picture Ohtani is actually Phil's son, and Tyler Nevin is his half brother. Hope that helps.
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Aug 10, 2023 18:50
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I'm finding it hard to watch/listen to O's games now without overanalyzing every nice thing they say about the club and wondering if they had to say that or if they wanted to.
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Aug 10, 2023 18:56
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maffew buildings posted:serious question, who is your guys favorite over 30 who finally broke into the starting lineup at the big league level player this season? lol already know the answer, it's Tauchman. less Yankees and more Tauch Talk! Easily Joey Meneses.
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Aug 10, 2023 18:56
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explosivo posted:I'm finding it hard to watch/listen to O's games now without overanalyzing every nice thing they say about the club and wondering if they had to say that or if they wanted to. Yeah it definitely feels forced/gun to head type environment
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Aug 10, 2023 18:57
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Doesn't help that Dave Johnson is the D-tier color man and terrible at announcing to begin with
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Aug 10, 2023 18:58
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explosivo posted:I'm finding it hard to watch/listen to O's games now without overanalyzing every nice thing they say about the club and wondering if they had to say that or if they wanted to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smrcoASLh5U&t=203s
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Aug 10, 2023 19:02
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duomo posted:I never realized Nevin is actually Cotton Hill until now. He defended fiddy unwritten rules!
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Aug 10, 2023 19:16
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pseudodragon posted:Assuming the same rules as Cy Young, Rick Sutcliffe won the NL Cy in 84 after being traded from Cleveland to the Cubbies. His AL stats were a 4-5, 5.15 ERA in 15 starts and he turned into a 16-1 2.69 in 20 starts with the Cubs. So he'd be at least eligible for NL votes. Overall stats were 20-6 but a mediocre 3.64 ERA so it looks like they only looked at his NL stats. But Gooden's record was "only" 17-9 so Sutcliffe won with that 16-1 record. That's right, the Cy Young Award basically came down to Pitcher Losses, even worse than the typical Pitcher Wins. Games with 2 or fewer runs of support: Gooden - 14 Sutcliffe - 2 Sutcliffe won unanimously, of course. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Aug 10, 2023 |
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Aug 10, 2023 19:31
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bawfuls posted:ah the golden era of bad awards voting! Sutcliffe did have quite a run there after the trade, putting up 3.9 bWAR in 150 IP and 20 starts with the Cubs (he was traded on June 13th). But the 19 year old rookie Dwight Gooden threw 218 IP, posted a lower 2.60 ERA, struck out an MLB-best 276, and ended up with 5.5 bWAR on the year. If it makes you feel better, Cubs fans are paying for this every time there is a west coast road trip televised by marquee network.
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Aug 10, 2023 19:35
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https://twitter.com/MLBHRVideos/status/1689708043422851072 
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Aug 10, 2023 19:41
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bawfuls posted:ah the golden era of bad awards voting! Sutcliffe did have quite a run there after the trade, putting up 3.9 bWAR in 150 IP and 20 starts with the Cubs (he was traded on June 13th). But the 19 year old rookie Dwight Gooden threw 218 IP, posted a lower 2.60 ERA, struck out an MLB-best 276, and ended up with 5.5 bWAR on the year. There was also a gigantic serving of Cubs going to the post season for the first time in forever, so pitcher losses, narrative and team performance. 3 awesome reasons to vote for an individual award.
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Aug 10, 2023 19:49
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R.D. Mangles posted:If it makes you feel better, Cubs fans are paying for this every time there is a west coast road trip televised by marquee network.
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Aug 10, 2023 19:51
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bawfuls posted:Oh I just think it's funny how long it took baseball writers to realize that a pitcher has no control over how many runs his team scores for him. They still haven't realized this!! Yanier Diaz, who is somehow not the starting everyday catcher of YOUR Houston Astros, threw out three steal attempts today, in addition to hitting a home run. Unfortunately, Dusty - and you aren't going to believe this - left his starter in too long and he gave up a 2 run shot in the seventh even though we have an off day tomorrow and plenty of arms zoux fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Aug 10, 2023 |
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Aug 10, 2023 19:52
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maffew buildings posted:serious question, who is your guys favorite over 30 who finally broke into the starting lineup at the big league level player this season? lol already know the answer, it's Tauchman. less Yankees and more Tauch Talk! Jose Abreu, he finally figured out how to hit in the big leagues at the age of 36 this June
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Aug 10, 2023 19:52
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zoux posted:They still haven't realized this!! edit: maybe Arrieta in 2015? Voters couldn't seem to decide if they wanted to go with the bWAR and ERA leader (Grienke) or the fWAR and FIP leader (Kershaw) so they split the different and went with the "down the stretch narrative" guy instead bawfuls fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Aug 10, 2023 |
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When CC went nuclear for Milwaukee, he finished in 5th place with 17 starts Lincecum finished 1st that year and hard to argue there. Other runners up were Brandon Webb (wins baby), Johan, and Brad Lidge
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