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Imagining golf cart technicals because Pooty Poot hosed up the lawn.
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goatsestretchgoals posted:Imagining golf cart technicals because Pooty Poot hosed up the lawn. Bill Murray's character from Caddyshack would be ideal for this
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Aug 11, 2023 03:09
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goatsestretchgoals posted:Imagining golf cart technicals because Pooty Poot hosed up the lawn. St. Basil’s has seven unapproved colors and far more onion domes than specified in bylaws.
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Aug 11, 2023 03:26
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AlternateNu posted:I mean.....they exist. But I'm more interested in giving them NMESIS system to gently caress off any naval asset protecting Crimea. I'm thinking Biden should give them a few launchers and empty out a warehouse full of missiles before the next election.
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Aug 11, 2023 03:31
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AlternateNu posted:I mean.....they exist. But I'm more interested in giving them NMESIS system to gently caress off any naval asset protecting Crimea.
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Aug 11, 2023 03:42
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goatsestretchgoals posted:If I was Putin I would outlaw cigarettes. If there was one thing that would get 90% of Russians to rise up against him it'd be this.
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Aug 11, 2023 03:49
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goatsestretchgoals posted:If I was Putin I would outlaw cigarettes. Imagine banning cigs, vodka, and adidasses in Soviet Russia.
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Aug 11, 2023 04:35
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Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:Imagine banning cigs, vodka, and adidasses in Soviet Russia. Thus making peoples stockpiles of them worth a fortune on the black market. The economy is saved!
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Aug 11, 2023 04:48
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When my father noticed something on fire in Russia in the news and pointed it out to me, I told him "remember how we had that talk about how there probably aren't any more child molestors around now than back in the day, we're just actually aware of them and talking about them now? Same thing with Russian buildings exploding"
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Aug 11, 2023 05:05
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Cugel the Clever posted:Ukraine Thread: Conducting an SMO Against My HOA HOAs vary wildly in form and function. I used to live in Columbia, MD, where the HOA basically was the local government and spent more time doing things like maintaining parks than complaining about lawn maintenance. That's not to say it didn't happen, but it was about the same amount as an incorporated municipality would have. Governance was devolved and there was substantial effort put into getting folks to participate in elections. And then I have friends who live in the stereotypical HOA that is constantly bankrupt and more of an outlet for people to exercise their egos to ruin the lives of their fellow man. It's kind of a mixed bag.
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Aug 11, 2023 07:36
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https://www.kyivpost.com/post/20415quote:The RNBO source added that Ukraine believes there is a “real danger” that information discussed with Israel at the Ramstein meetings “will probably fall into the possession of the aggressor state.” Israel's never really taken a satisfactory stance on the war or provided any meaningful support to Ukraine, but straight up saying they're Russian allies is a pretty big deal.
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Aug 11, 2023 11:15
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PurpleXVI posted:https://www.kyivpost.com/post/20415 Israel is in the business of selling intel to the highest bidder, and above all else defending themselves. They'd absolutely sell information to the Russians if the Russians offer them a good deal on it.
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Aug 11, 2023 11:22
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orange juche posted:Israel is in the business of selling intel to the highest bidder, and above all else defending themselves. They'd absolutely sell information to the Russians if the Russians offer them a good deal on it. If the good deal includes cutting off aid to Iran's nuclear weapons program, they'd wrap that information up in a pretty little bow. As much as it pains me to say this, they'd be right to do so.
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Aug 11, 2023 11:46
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A.o.D. posted:If the good deal includes cutting off aid to Iran's nuclear weapons program, they'd wrap that information up in a pretty little bow. As much as it pains me to say this, they'd be right to do so. They'd be morons to believe it.
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Aug 11, 2023 12:23
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Yes, Russia acting in good faith. What did GWB say about getting fooled?
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Aug 11, 2023 14:00
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PurpleXVI posted:https://www.kyivpost.com/post/20415 There's a joke that all 1.5 million of Russia's 1 million Jews immigrated to Israel. They make up at least 15% of the population, which is a pretty significant share. It's really not unlikely that there's still a lot of affinity for Russia within that sector, and probably exploitation by Russian intel as well.
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Aug 11, 2023 15:31
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Israel also depends on the continued goodwill of Russian air defense to conduct airstrikes against ISIS and Hezbollah in Syria.
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Aug 11, 2023 16:04
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A.o.D. posted:If the good deal includes cutting off aid to Iran's nuclear weapons program, they'd wrap that information up in a pretty little bow. As much as it pains me to say this, they'd be right to do so. This is on the cusp of a sarcastically optimistic post.
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Aug 11, 2023 16:53
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Nessus posted:Like the guy from Resident Evil? Its the Marines' land based launcher for the Naval Strike Missile. pantslesswithwolves posted:There's a joke that all 1.5 million of Russia's 1 million Jews immigrated to Israel. They make up at least 15% of the population, which is a pretty significant share. It's really not unlikely that there's still a lot of affinity for Russia within that sector, and probably exploitation by Russian intel as well. The number of Russians who apply for U.S. citizenship or try to skirt export controls by first obtaining Israeli citizenship would make your head spin. AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Aug 11, 2023 |
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Aug 11, 2023 17:17
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pantslesswithwolves posted:There's a joke that all 1.5 million of Russia's 1 million Jews immigrated to Israel. They make up at least 15% of the population, which is a pretty significant share. It's really not unlikely that there's still a lot of affinity for Russia within that sector, and probably exploitation by Russian intel as well. A good portion of them are likely from Ukraine or Belarus, and many of the actual Russians are not necessarily on Russia's side.
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Aug 11, 2023 17:27
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I’m still confused about how a middle power nation like Iran with significant territory, resources, and scientists isn’t able to produce nuclear weapons when the US was able to do so nearly 80 years ago. Especially considering the fates of nations that abandoned programs like Iraq, Libya, & Ukraine, when it’s not unthinkable trump 2.0 would invade on a whim. I’m sure it makes sense with how fuel enrichment works but seems like if NK, South Africa, Israel, and Pakistan could manage it that Iran would have them by now.
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Aug 11, 2023 17:45
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There's a lot of active political/espionage/sabotage/direct military intervention aimed at stopping them. Also it's actually very hard to do.
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Aug 11, 2023 17:59
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Making a nuclear weapon is a huge and complex exercise and in a lot of ways we were ill served by the initial project being focused on a bomb rather than producing nuclear energy, but that's a story for another time. I believe North Korea basically did literally every step of the process in underground vaults.
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Aug 11, 2023 18:07
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It doesn't help if the Mossad keeps assassinating your top scientists
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Aug 11, 2023 18:17
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Nessus posted:Making a nuclear weapon is a huge and complex exercise and in a lot of ways we were ill served by the initial project being focused on a bomb rather than producing nuclear energy, but that's a story for another time. I believe North Korea basically did literally every step of the process in underground vaults. Frankly I’d love to hear the story, seems like the right place and time!
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Aug 11, 2023 18:21
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wilos balls started tingling again and he doesn't know why
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Aug 11, 2023 18:29
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M_Gargantua posted:This is on the cusp of a sarcastically optimistic post. Optimism? There was nothing like that motivating my post.
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Aug 11, 2023 18:41
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Hyrax Attack! posted:I’m still confused about how a middle power nation like Iran with significant territory, resources, and scientists isn’t able to produce nuclear weapons when the US was able to do so nearly 80 years ago. Especially considering the fates of nations that abandoned programs like Iraq, Libya, & Ukraine, when it’s not unthinkable trump 2.0 would invade on a whim. They are. They just don't want to. There's a reason they've been sitting at "almost there" for forever. They're close enough to get there if a war kicks off, but far enough away to not provoke a war. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Aug 11, 2023 |
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Aug 11, 2023 18:58
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slothrop posted:Frankly I’d love to hear the story, seems like the right place and time! The first step requires advanced industry that is hard to conceal or do at home. (Not impossible, as North Korea proved.) The expertise can potentially be hired but is actually narrow enough that it is not impossible to track the people who know how to do it. A nuclear test itself is going to get detected by everybody concerned, because it makes a hellacious bang that even civilian seismographic sensors will detect.
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Aug 11, 2023 19:04
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Hyrax Attack! posted:I’m still confused about how a middle power nation like Iran with significant territory, resources, and scientists isn’t able to produce nuclear weapons when the US was able to do so nearly 80 years ago. Especially considering the fates of nations that abandoned programs like Iraq, Libya, & Ukraine, when it’s not unthinkable trump 2.0 would invade on a whim. They have a significant program to that end but has been hampered both by their desire to gain geopolitical legitimacy in other ways like trade and diplomacy, and by constant attacks by groups like the US and Israel. They still have a significant enrichment program, but are being very careful to try to stick near to their enrichment pledge. The disastrous part was Trump's willingness to toss aside the agreements made with Iran previously to drum up new reasons to intervene. At this point, it would not be suprising nor even unexcepted for Iran to pursue a nuclear weapon just because of the level of animosity aimed at them. Iran has nearly all the components and materials needed, but its cautious about stepping over the line unless there's no other way.
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Aug 11, 2023 19:07
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Almost all of the big wave of Russian emigres to Israel from the 1990s have fully assimilated - there used to be political parties for Russians for example but only one is left (Yisrael Beitenu) and that's more of a personality platform for its leader than a ethnic-Russian party. Israel isn't particularly anti-Russian, more so that they are very, very Trump-y, for lack of a better word. The overton window of Israeli politics has shifted pretty hard to the right and what's left of the center-left is busy protesting the government. Ukraine isn't really on anyone's radar (except, ironically, the thousands of ultra-Orthodox who show up at a rabbi's gravesite in Ukraine every year).
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Aug 11, 2023 19:09
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Hyrax Attack! posted:I’m still confused about how a middle power nation like Iran with significant territory, resources, and scientists isn’t able to produce nuclear weapons when the US was able to do so nearly 80 years ago. Especially considering the fates of nations that abandoned programs like Iraq, Libya, & Ukraine, when it’s not unthinkable trump 2.0 would invade on a whim. US intelligence services literally created one of the most innovative and successful computer worms ever written, which managed to penetrate a strictly controlled air gap at their nuclear research facilities. This whole thing was made to implant code that would sabotage the function of centrifuges they were using to disrupt their production of enriched uranium, by making them run so erratically that they would blow themselves up. They distributed things like USB drives at scientific conferences that Iranian scientists attended, amongst other methods, eventually leading to the destruction of a significant amount of their centrifuges. That's just one vector of attack that's been levied against Iranian nuclear weapon development. There's been many more, and probably most are so secret that we haven't even heard of them. They were late to the game, didn't have the support those other nations had, and had significantly more opposition directed at them. It's not that surprising they've been unsuccessful to me
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Yeah, Iran’s lack of nukes is a policy decision. They also have a policy not to develop missiles over a set range. It’s not like they keep trying to build an actual nuke and are just bad at physics. Edit: Here is the ODNI unclassified document on missile and nuclear development. Iran is pursuing a tech to be able to "sprint" to a nuclear weapon or long-range missiles if they made the policy decision to do so. But for now, they are electing not to develop these capabilities. https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Iran-Nuclear-Weapons-Capability-and-Terrorism-Monitoring-Act-of-2022.pdf mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Aug 11, 2023 |
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Aug 11, 2023 19:11
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Mederlock posted:US intelligence services literally created one of the most innovative and successful computer worms ever written, which managed to penetrate a strictly controlled air gap at their nuclear research facilities. This whole thing was made to implant code that would sabotage the function of centrifuges they were using to disrupt their production of enriched uranium, by making them run so erratically that they would blow themselves up. They distributed things like USB drives at scientific conferences that Iranian scientists attended, amongst other methods, eventually leading to the destruction of a significant amount of their centrifuges. Worth noting despite the level of effort, even the best estimates are that it only slowed their enrichment process by 6-8 months.
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Aug 11, 2023 19:12
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Yeah. It should also be noted that the JCPOA Iran nuclear deal probably did more to set them back (willingly, at that) on their development more than any foreign intrigue ever did. And it's a god damned shame the orange man went and tore it up for political points.
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Aug 11, 2023 19:16
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My loose understanding is that Iran is a large enough country that a US/allies invasion would not have a high chance of actually toppling the government. The nuclear deterrent would be a way to make the cost going high enough that even a truly desperate American president would not take the gamble.
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Aug 11, 2023 19:23
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The real thorny issue with Iran is that negotiating to silo the nuclear proliferation issue and the regional destabilisation issue was a 'best of a bad situation' solution rather than one anyone actually liked. Anyway on the worlds worst army to be in: https://twitter.com/intermarium24/status/1689732601026609152
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Aug 11, 2023 19:27
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Ukraine faces a spooge-water gap, can Goons help?
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Even in a strictly conventional war, you probably couldn't invade Iran without it being a bloodbath unlike anything seen by the US for generations. The terrain is inimical to assault over land.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Even in a strictly conventional war, you probably couldn't invade Iran without it being a bloodbath unlike anything seen by the US for generations. The terrain is inimical to assault over land.
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