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Blurb3947
Sep 30, 2022
You're only able to use that system for anything 7000-series and newer, and only on mobile CPUs. Not really sure why they'd make it so loving confusing and go half way with it.

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some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Now that I'm WFH my iPhone with MS Authenticator basically never leaves my nightstand during the day, so I was wondering if there's a non-disaster way to share the same TOTP codes across two trusted iOS devices? Short of physically scanning the same QR code on two different devices to store individually. I'm not married to MS Authenticator, that's just what I've been using for forever and have no real good reason to stick with it.

There's inherent risk in storing the authentication material in a shared database but there's also an inherent risk in me leaving SMS MFA enabled on services because I'm too "in the middle of something" and don't want to go to the bedroom to grab the phone off the charger for ten seconds.

This is one of those questions where I have to assume the answer is either "yeah you clod, suchandsuch app has been doing this securely for five years and everyone but you knows about this" or "no you clod, how are you even employed in an information security capacity" and I'll be embarrassed either way so I might as well ask.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



authy can support multiple devices, though it depends on how you/your org feel about cloud services. scanning the code or otherwise importing the key to a wholly offline app is also fine, assuming you don't import it anywhere stupid

ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!

Bitwarden also supports TOTP and syncs across devices, obviously depends on your comfort levels with storing passwords and 2FA in the same app.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Thanks gang.

For the time being i'm trying to keep my MFA and passwords separate, otherwise Apple is working on making authenticator codes available in iCloud Keychain which has been a mixed experience in the limited tokens I've chosen to test out (seems to be available on my Mac but my iPad doesn't offer to prompt on the same site for reasons I can't understand). I'll give Authy a shot.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


If your risk model is people snagging the OTP seeds out of an online database then you can do a lot worse than printing the QR codes out and shoving them in a binder.

The answer is probably to have as much stuff linked to single sign-on as possible, with some sort of adaptive element based on the device you're accessing from so that other than for critical applications you don't see the prompt if you're using a managed laptop that you've authenticated to with biometrics. If you aren't the person responsible for your identity platform then you're back juggling separate accounts and OTP codes.

Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jul 27, 2023

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

ShoeFly posted:

Bitwarden also supports TOTP and syncs across devices, obviously depends on your comfort levels with storing passwords and 2FA in the same app.

Though note that functionality is behind their paywall. Believe the situation is the same for 1Password:
https://support.1password.com/one-time-passwords/

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



Nm

just a kazoo
Mar 7, 2018
anyone know anything more about clop compromising deloitte and other big 4 firms?

ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!

Takes No Damage posted:

Though note that functionality is behind their paywall. Believe the situation is the same for 1Password:
https://support.1password.com/one-time-passwords/

Ah of course, I self-host so didn’t notice

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

just a kazoo posted:

anyone know anything more about clop compromising deloitte and other big 4 firms?

deloitte is denying impact but they got listed, pwc confirmed "limited" client data leakage, EY claims they were affected but that most systems weren't and are investigating, nothing from kpmg

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


just a kazoo posted:

anyone know anything more about clop compromising deloitte and other big 4 firms?

for what it's worth two of four have sent email to defense industrial base contacts thusfar

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/amazons-aws-ssm-agent-can-be-used-as-post-exploitation-rat-malware/

I really dont feel like chasing this poo poo down today.

Im sure almost no one in my org has setup VPC endpoints properly as it is.

App13
Dec 31, 2011

Anyone going to DEFCON this year want to meet for dinner/know of any good after parties?

DkHelmet
Jul 10, 2001

I pity the foal...


App13 posted:

Anyone going to DEFCON this year want to meet for dinner/know of any good after parties?

I'll be there. I'll be getting in on Wednesday and doing some dinners throughout the week, shoot me a PM. As for parties, I'm terribly lame and haven't been, although there's a link and a google calendar.

Mustache Ride
Sep 11, 2001



Lol got stopped at the new turbine looking scanners at TSA for "excessive electronic density".

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Mustache Ride posted:

Lol got stopped at the new turbine looking scanners at TSA for "excessive electronic density".

Did you reply with a "I never asked for this"?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

For various reasons we're needing to jettison sharepoint for a site to host documents and need to deal with various fedramp and nist compliance stuff so anyone got suggestions for good stuff to take a look at?

Os Furoris
Aug 19, 2002

Bitwarden, Keepass, or 1password? I use a PC, Mac and iPhone.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Os Furoris posted:

Bitwarden, Keepass, or 1password? I use a PC, Mac and iPhone.

1password is great ime

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




1password is the best imo

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe

Os Furoris posted:

Bitwarden, Keepass, or 1password? I use a PC, Mac and iPhone.

Thirded. It even got the "this makes my life easier" vote of confidence from the wife, which is the opposite of all the other horrible tech poo poo I subject the family to. If you need the family or team features, it's killer. I used it for years as an individual and it's been great.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


1Password suits my needs

stoopidmunkey
May 21, 2005

yep
My company is in the process of getting fedramp certified. They chose Qualys for web app scanning and after having the product since may, we just got our first successful scan (their SaaS servers kept running out of memory). Anyway, I opened the scan results and they’re loving useless. To get any value you have to download the scan report as pdf to view the actual output from the scans. How do people manage with useless tools like this apart from just buying Tenable or Rapid7 next budget cycle?

Mustache Ride
Sep 11, 2001



Speaking of, massive rif at rapid7 today.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Mustache Ride posted:

Speaking of, massive rif at rapid7 today.

Awesome. We're currently in the middle of a big POC with them that already has not been going well. Wonder if we lost anybody to this.

Blinkz0rz
May 27, 2001

MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

Mustache Ride posted:

Speaking of, massive rif at rapid7 today.

It’s been a rough 24 hours to say the least. Lots of really talented people lost their jobs and everyone else is just on edge. Luckily most of the folks I know who were laid off have good networks and probably won’t be unemployed for long but the whole thing is just super lovely.

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

stoopidmunkey posted:

My company is in the process of getting fedramp certified. They chose Qualys for web app scanning and after having the product since may, we just got our first successful scan (their SaaS servers kept running out of memory). Anyway, I opened the scan results and they’re loving useless. To get any value you have to download the scan report as pdf to view the actual output from the scans. How do people manage with useless tools like this apart from just buying Tenable or Rapid7 next budget cycle?

Fun fact, with Qualys if you submit a false positive report - you lose access to the information and explanation you submitted. So if that issue is going to be reoccurring every time you run a scan, you need to collect that evidence and re-write the explanation again whenever the granted exception expires, which is usually every 6 months.

Armauk
Jun 23, 2021


Os Furoris posted:

Bitwarden, Keepass, or 1password? I use a PC, Mac and iPhone.

Bitwarden. You can also host your own instance or pay for cloud storage, which is significantly cheaper than 1Password.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

anyone here have any experience with wazuh particularly in a kubernetes/eks environment? we are looking for a replacement for threatstack for one of our orgs, which is getting sunset by F5 in october, and it seems like it could be needs suiting.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i ran wazuh's hids stuff but that was 5+ years ago. never messed with their siem platform (idk if it even existed then tbh)

MustardFacial
Jun 20, 2011
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I applied for Cybersec Analyst position and got it (been a sysadmin for years and always security-first, but never actually done an infosec job). I was hyped for it from the beginning but then when my future manager called me to tell me that I got it and what to expect he mentioned that I'd be enrolled in a couple SANS courses, some SEIM training, I'd have to get my CISSP at some point, what my colleagues specialize in and mentioned that one of them has a SANS Challenge Coin.

Since then imposter syndrome has hit hard and now I'm wondering if I am even capable of doing this to their level. I'm 2 years younger than the manager and at least 5 years older than everyone else on my team. I haven't even started and I'm already feeling behind an unable to catch up. There is so much stuff I don't know how to do, and even more that I only have a general understanding of.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

MustardFacial posted:

I applied for Cybersec Analyst position and got it (been a sysadmin for years and always security-first, but never actually done an infosec job). I was hyped for it from the beginning but then when my future manager called me to tell me that I got it and what to expect he mentioned that I'd be enrolled in a couple SANS courses, some SEIM training, I'd have to get my CISSP at some point, what my colleagues specialize in and mentioned that one of them has a SANS Challenge Coin.

Since then imposter syndrome has hit hard and now I'm wondering if I am even capable of doing this to their level. I'm 2 years younger than the manager and at least 5 years older than everyone else on my team. I haven't even started and I'm already feeling behind an unable to catch up. There is so much stuff I don't know how to do, and even more that I only have a general understanding of.

Security teams can feel that way sometimes. It will take you about a week to realize that most infosec personal aren't as a competent as you might think.

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Sickening posted:

Security teams can feel that way sometimes. It will take you about a week to realize that most infosec personal aren't as a competent as you might think.

Extremely this. Just like in any part of IT or any job really, there are a lot of people going through the motions and the minority of them will be those individuals you are comparing yourself to in your head.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Every day I'm amazed I've managed to trick people into believing I have a marketable skill, going on a decade plus now. Welcome to the gang.

Joking aside, you'll get comfortable with your role naturally IMO. Everyone else already is, which is why they're probably more confident. Don't be afraid to lean on your peers during your transition period. It can feel debilitating, like you're deferring to them for knowledge and reinforcing your impostor syndrome, but a lot of this profession is also knowing how to work within the confines, relationships, and expectations set out by people who have come before you. How you provide a service can matter as much as the service you provide, and if you're unsure of either it can feel very shaky.

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Aug 15, 2023

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Also be aware that people with a lot of certs might be skilled at getting certs but not at practice. Your least obvious skill is probably also that you've seen a lot of real actual fuckups and stuff in your career, which means you have way better imagination at how people will circumvent security.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





MustardFacial posted:

I applied for Cybersec Analyst position and got it (been a sysadmin for years and always security-first, but never actually done an infosec job). I was hyped for it from the beginning but then when my future manager called me to tell me that I got it and what to expect he mentioned that I'd be enrolled in a couple SANS courses, some SEIM training, I'd have to get my CISSP at some point, what my colleagues specialize in and mentioned that one of them has a SANS Challenge Coin.

Since then imposter syndrome has hit hard and now I'm wondering if I am even capable of doing this to their level. I'm 2 years younger than the manager and at least 5 years older than everyone else on my team. I haven't even started and I'm already feeling behind an unable to catch up. There is so much stuff I don't know how to do, and even more that I only have a general understanding of.

Congrats! And also, you'll be fine. Deep breaths. After a few weeks you'll be wondering why everyone you work with is so bad at their job. :-D

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.
The CISSP is an anomaly among certifications. It isn't technically challenging at all but holds more water than it should because its price and adoption. Sans stuff pricing is also extreme but seems less embarrassing from a difficulty perspective.

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CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




MustardFacial posted:

mentioned that one of them has a SANS Challenge Coin.

I'm extraordinarily proud of my SANS challenge coin, not just because I got 1st place in the CTF but because it's blade runner themed which rules

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