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Koishi Komeiji posted:Just don't volunteer for the loans. Simple stuff. Sir, can you point out which officer of the Department of Education forced you at gun point to go to college? I know what’s coming, guys could you PLEASE be inventive in your excuses why you had to go to expensive schools instead of: -community college -apprenticing a trade -becoming a cook -using free online resources to learn a skill -using a public library since credentials are bullshit -engaging in (non military)public service for loan forgiveness -just not going to college because you don’t want to participate in the workforce with that credential because it’s bullshit. …and you want a real alternative yada yada and how Reagan and Neoliberalism destroyed public education since 1980 and if you only lived in Europe (meaning FRANCE not Montenegro or Bulgaria) you would go for free.
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Sir, can you point out which officer of the Department of Education forced you at gun point to go to college?
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:which specialized credential do you need to chose “I’ll pay the debt now while conditions are favorable” over “I’ll pay the debt later when conditions are unknown.” "these conditions are very favorable", I declare, brain scientistly, as I pay down 0% interest debt during double digit inflation and skyrocketing appreciation across every asset class while having a full time job
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lol I worked as a line cook in community college and after I transferred to a state school but for some reason I still have loans which are restarting next month Pretty weird
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:“The Democrats don’t ever do anything, they are loving lame, bitch where is my promised money” I say as President DeSantis sets up camps for trans people and the Supreme Court rules 8-1 the 13th amendment actually doesn’t say slavery is illegal. I've never actually heard this argument delivered for real. I thought people in were just bitching about made up stances. Swinging at windmills etc. Wow. Awesome
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A simple solution would be to make college and trade school completely tuition free for those who want to go. But the system would rather drat people to decades of penury to maintain an underclass that is desperate enough to take whatever exploitative job they find.
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Morbus posted:"these conditions are very favorable", I declare, brain scientistly, as I pay down 0% interest debt during double digit inflation and skyrocketing appreciation across every asset class while having a full time job “what a financial moron” I say about a person without knowing anything about their income level or investment portfolio or tax strategy. “take your student loan payment money and dump it into the stock market, ASSET CLASSES ARE SKYROCKETING” Capitalism.png: But have you considered how every asset class is skyrocketing?
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Sir, can you point out which officer of the Department of Education forced you at gun point to go to college? I applied for college when I was 16. I grew up in a military family and wasn't raised to question authority. Every adult in my life told me I should go to college, so I believed them. I hope my perspective is useful.
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Mods please change my name to BIDEN APOLOGIST 2024, thanx. ETERNAL BIDEN SIMP is also acceptable.  Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Sir, can you point out which officer of the Department of Education forced you at gun point to go to college? 
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:A simple solution would be to make college and trade school completely tuition free for those who want to go. But the system would rather drat people to decades of penury to maintain an underclass that is desperate enough to take whatever exploitative job they find. Agreed! If only there was somebody who proposed that and whose wife works at a Community College, kinda reminds me of someone… Anyways it largely depends on the state. In New Jersey, if you make less than $65k the state covers your tuition for community college and then if you want to transfer to a four year school afterwards the state will carry over that money for your 3rd and 4th years.
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Sir, can you point out which officer of the Department of Education forced you at gun point to go to college? Sir, can you point out which officer of the Department of Agriculture forced you at gun point to eat food?
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Aug 16, 2023 00:37
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Hmmm, loan forgiveness is bad I'm hearing... and Biden is good!
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Aug 16, 2023 00:39
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A lot of people ITT jealous of Biden's success. Spend less effort on hating and more on grinding!
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Agreed! If only there was somebody who proposed that and whose wife works at a Community College, kinda reminds me of someone… It's a shame that person doesn't have any kind of political clout or serve in a high office Instead he made it impossible to discharge student debt in bankruptcy
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stop all this capitalisming this instant!
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not even the paid weimar joe losers on twitter do this much pathetic simping lol on top if it this creep is a fygm turd as well
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Joe Biden isn't going to gently caress you op
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spacemang_spliff posted:It's a shame that person doesn't have any kind of political clout or serve in a high office Federal Government says you’re wrong, but what do they know. https://library.nclc.org/article/new-process-discharge-student-loans-bankruptcy The rules have changed as of January 2023, thanks Donald Trump! No longer impossible, but challenging because you have to run a huge bureaucratic gauntlet. but you guys are all of above average intelligence so go for it!!!!
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Federal Government says you’re wrong, but what do they know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEsT5jljYWg
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tokin opposition posted:Joe Biden isn't going to gently caress you op I refuse to have a negative attitude.
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gotta wonder why these threads attracts these losers from dnd
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HallelujahLee posted:gotta wonder why these threads attracts these losers from dnd Brother have you heard the GOOD NEWS about the Biden/Harris Administration? https://youtu.be/5fNDeh89O-o
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Current student loans and higher education in general in America is predatory, and getting debt relief for those debts is good even if some people feel slighted by it. I don't think anyone thought Biden was actually gonna do it but they lit a little fire and that gave us the crumbs we did get.
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I had enough money to pay down my student loans during forbearance or save/invest but I did neither and instead I blew it on frivolous bullshit, do I win the thread
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HallelujahLee posted:gotta wonder why these threads attracts these losers from dnd Capitalism cannot fail, it can only be failed (and it's ur fault)
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Koishi Komeiji posted:Sir, can you point out which officer of the Department of Agriculture forced you at gun point to eat food? You have food loans from private lenders at 8%? poo poo, stop going to Wegmans! Around 60% of Americans didn’t go to college. Going out on a limb to suggest at least three (and possibly more) of those (checks notes) 200 million people were able to find gainful employment where they can buy food. Look, pick a lane. Either a college degree is a bullshit credential where even PhD scientists are all actually bumbling morons in the real world who don’t understand basic finance OR it’s an essential credential that should be free since everyone needs it and it benefits society.
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:You have food loans from private lenders at 8%? poo poo, stop going to Wegmans! You have no idea how many people use credit cards to buy groceries do you
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:You have food loans from private lenders at 8%? poo poo, stop going to Wegmans! Yes I put groceries on my credit card Lol.
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drat..beaten!!!!!
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Federal Government says you’re wrong, but what do they know. Wow so now it's just nearly impossible thanks Biden most progressive president ever
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Keep voting for Democrats and maybe in 40 years they'll slightly roll back something stupid they fought for
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i like the made up numbers to 200 million employed according to my rear end
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The contempt they have for lower middle class kids who got lied to for 12 years about how education was necessary for a comfortable life(a lie engineered to justify robbing the working class blind) is pretty cruel. But you know, mutual blame between the working classes is intentional to American politics
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Agreed! If only there was somebody who proposed that and whose wife works at a Community College, kinda reminds me of someone… new jersey ftw
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Federal Government says you’re wrong, but what do they know. Oh, wow, thank God for Joe Biden, the great bankruptcy reformer. Now, let me just take a big ol' drink of my coffee while I look up who made the bankruptcy laws so harsh for regular people in the first place.... Nieuw Amsterdam posted:You have food loans from private lenders at 8%? poo poo, stop going to Wegmans!
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ikanreed posted:The contempt they have for lower middle class kids who got lied to for 12 years about how education was necessary for a comfortable life(a lie engineered to justify robbing the working class blind) is pretty cruel. its because they're pieces of poo poo op just like the chuds they despise
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I have three doctorates and I don't know how to tie my shoes .
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Shame Boy posted:You have no idea how many people use credit cards to buy groceries do you I certainly did when I was broke. USDA says 34 million people are food insecure, that seems like a reasonable proxy for “needs to borrow or steal or get help” for food. Another 8 million live in “very food insecure” households a/k/a having sleep for dinner. So let’s round up and say 50 million have some kind of struggle for food. That’s a sad and shockingly large number. Out of 332 million Americans. 1 out of 6 people is a lot. What I have learned from you all is that the solution is a check for $2000 issued three years ago and wiping your personal loans for Oberlin (which your dad forced you to attend at gunpoint). Problem solved, if not for loving Joe Biden getting in the way.
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:I certainly did when I was broke.
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