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New Cathay LL sounds like fantasy Cao Cao which means I will probably play that campaign repeatedly.
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I thin the extra achievements are live, can anyone confirm?
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Aug 16, 2023 00:36
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They is on Steam. Oh no. Oh nooooo *hand shoots over to new campaign button.. OVER TWENTY TIMES*
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Aug 16, 2023 00:43
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Hoho.... OHOHOH!!!!
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Aug 16, 2023 01:02
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Doomykins posted:They is on Steam. Oh no. Oh nooooo ...They reused the loving names for the achievements from TW2 for all the returning races.
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Aug 16, 2023 01:50
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neonchameleon posted:Oh, and archers being cheap given how long they took to train is weird of course. I think the idea is that no one is training them at all - these are guys who already know how to use a bow and are just being brought into the ranks. I haven't read any Warhams books so maybe I'm wrong but I think the idea is that these dudes go hunting on their own and probably form little militias that defend their villages against random beasties and goblins so any place in the Empire will probably have a population of guys who already are decent archers.
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Aug 16, 2023 01:52
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Cythereal posted:It's a real shame. Arabian high fantasy is a neat as hell aesthetic (see the Academy in Heroes of Might & Magic 5 and the Alin in Rise of Legends), and it would be cool to have human LLs in this game who aren't white people. Yeah they could do a lot of fun stuff with it especially if they just rope in the whole Ottoman thing. Flying carpet wizards, camel cavalry, spinny dervish dudes, Jannisary orcs could be cool, like Orc captives trained to fight in some disciplined formation with gunpowder or something. A genie hero unit? Hashishin agents. I know it is all stereotypes but so is Kislev BEARS AND ICE AND MOTHERLAND and Cathay DRAGONS AND JADE AND HARMONY. Is Balthazar Gelt an Arab? I was playing the campaign recently and he conquered a town in.... The Mediterranean? Italy? I then got a lore popup from a mod (Legendary Lore I believe) which described Gelt visiting his home town and seeing his parents and they don't recognize him due to the gold mask. Does anyone like the Harmony mechanic? It annoys the hell out of me while playing Cathay enough that I don't really want to play them again. The penalties are pretty annoying and everytime I take a new town, or by god, confederate, I have to go through and gently caress with all my buildings again. I don't think the bonuses entice me whatsoever to arrange my army any differently than I normally would, but the penalties are annoying for being in disharmony. My peasants are pissed off that I built a training barracks 800 miles away. Mr. Grapes! fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Aug 16, 2023 |
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Aug 16, 2023 01:55
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Mr. Grapes! posted:I think the idea is that no one is training them at all - these are guys who already know how to use a bow and are just being brought into the ranks. I haven't read any Warhams books so maybe I'm wrong but I think the idea is that these dudes go hunting on their own and probably form little militias that defend their villages against random beasties and goblins so any place in the Empire will probably have a population of guys who already are decent archers. Yeah it’s this— they, like free company militia, are just nearby dudes who are drunk enough to go to war
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Aug 16, 2023 02:05
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jokes posted:Yeah it’s this— they, like free company militia, are just nearby dudes who are drunk enough to go to war Free company are paid mercenaries, and I guess the reason they cost more even though they supply their own equipment is their hiring. Archers are exactly the random hunters through the Empire mustered into a militia. They aren't state troops at all and have no formal training. If anything, both free company and archers could have an effect where their upkeep is the same, but they have reduced hiring costs. Huntsmen I don't know. E: nope. They are just elite archers. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Aug 16, 2023 |
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Aug 16, 2023 02:19
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They're hunters that reacted to seeing a giant spider or a troll or whatever by reaching for the Big Arrows and have repeatedly lived to tell the tale. They aren't supported by the state because they don't need to be, hunting game like that probably makes them a lot of money. The existence of Markus Wolfheart and huntsmaster generals probably means there is some support, probably in the way of taking apprentices and accompanying the hunts the lords like to do.
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Aug 16, 2023 02:37
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John Mirra posted:I thin the extra achievements are live, can anyone confirm? They have been Steam a few days, but they have 0.0 global completion percentage, so I'm guessing they'll can't be legitimately unlocked yet. I don't know if it's meant to work this way, there's a good chance it won't, but beating the Zan'baijin battle as Valkia on VH did not get me any Warriors of Chaos achievements 
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Aug 16, 2023 03:22
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Well, I took it as good a time as any to start a new game and hit random. Got Azazel. My first non-Norscan vassal I subjugated seems to have gotten into the spirit of things nicely.
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Insurrectionist posted:I know it's just because GW's internal data says they don't sell as well but lol at GW not including either Lizardmen or Skaven, their two most unique armies, in the old world core races. At least they got Tomb Kings right. I think the original 4 factions (chaos was half assed at launch) were a really good mix of unit types and strategies. You had two factions with elite infantry, two without. Two with awesome cavalry, two without. Two with a bunch of minsters, two without. Two with great range options, two without. Two with disposable chaff, two without. Etc. It made 4 very unique armies with a certain amount of overlap and a LOT of variety in play style.
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Aug 16, 2023 04:09
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neonchameleon posted:As for Empire armour, you start by armouring the head and torso and work out. It makes sense to me for the state to provide breastplates or brigandines and helmets, and richer lords or individual troopers to decide whether they want greaves, chain sleeves, or neither. Munitions armor is the term you're looking for here. The mass produced breastplate and helms being the most common (and important parts) to cover, with their being versions for more bending bits as well, but that starts to cost you. Munitions breastplates and helms have very few to no moving parts, so pretty easy for early trip-hammer factory operations to crank out and train up apprentices under the eye of seniors. And then as guns really started coming into their own, you stopped protecting arms and legs because they just weren't getting maimed in melee as much anymore. If you really embrace the Empire pre-blowing up the world as just on the cusp of hitting the 30 year war period (which it is, that and the holy roman empire which was fatally wounded by said war, but didn't actually get wiped clean until Napoleon came along and wiped the board clean), then all the pieces make sense. The biggest issue, and this is across the board for factions, is kit doesn't change for the challenge, you just recruit up different units and types. The scrap mechanic really should get rationalized into more factions, specializing already trained and recruited units with specific gear or developed tactics is far more efficient than drawing a poo poo ton of people who need to be farming and poo poo. But then we start getting into Warhammer as made by Paradox, which I'd be down for, but that's a completely different topic.
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TaintedBalance posted:But then we start getting into Warhammer as made by Paradox, which I'd be down for, but that's a completely different topic. There is a CK2 mod for Warhammer. It's comprehensive, to say the least (had a bit of trouble with the magic system last time I tried it though).
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Aug 16, 2023 14:24
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Can...can you marry Grimgrog?
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SirPhoebos posted:There is a CK2 mod for Warhammer. It's comprehensive, to say the least (had a bit of trouble with the magic system last time I tried it though). I enjoyed their take on certain canon questions (high elf birth rate caused by vortex proximity, etc) and it's cool how vlad sometimes becomes emperor. Also really wish CA had found a way to incorporate something like the Wood Elves "yeah we can just pick a side and join wars when we feel like it" thing The Chad Jihad fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Aug 16, 2023 |
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Aug 16, 2023 15:00
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRBViTaCMlQ&ab_channel=TotalWar Is there any reason to play the other Cathay LLs now? Taking control of any neutral army sounds fun.
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Aug 16, 2023 15:57
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Twigand Berries posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRBViTaCMlQ&ab_channel=TotalWar I mean, people play the non-DLC Skaven lords sometimes. For some reason Also he can reset his reliability to Very High lol. Depending on how the AI responds this is insanely good or 100% worthless (like many things)
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Aug 16, 2023 16:14
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Pretty messed up to feature kroxigors so heavily in Cathay right now tbh
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Aug 16, 2023 16:14
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Also this is the sword active they show: e: ALSO his "reveal trade partners' territory" passive thing means he can do everyone's favorite thing in the world: meet the donut and trade with the entire donut, just, as soon as he meets one of them. Like Imrik, who's just to the west. e2: ALSO ALSO one of his compass directions grants character immortality, which coupled with the army-borrowing power means we may have a new king of hero-stealing/copying (for anyone unaware, if you borrow an army with a hero who's immortal, get them killed in a battle, then give the army back, they're copied and added to your wounded pool; Norsca has a tech to make any characters in your armies immortal so they were the best at doing this without having to borrow level 20+ hero armies). Chernobyl Peace Prize fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Aug 16, 2023 |
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ninjahedgehog posted:Pretty messed up to feature kroxigors so heavily in Cathay right now tbh is it? I could see them screwing up Nakai as they moved things around in preparation for SoC plus once they do fix it people will just go back to saying Lizardmen suck and need a rework anyway
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:is it? I could see them screwing up Nakai as they moved things around in preparation for SoC They already did -- he hasn't been able to recruit kroxes for months now
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Aug 16, 2023 17:42
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ninjahedgehog posted:They already did -- he hasn't been able to recruit kroxes for months now yes that's what I was referring to. I was explaining the how / why did it occur
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Aug 16, 2023 17:58
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It's a super simple misplaced database entry, and it's idiotic that CA's so stubborn about not issuing hotfixes but making people wait for major patches to get minor fixes. At least the community bugfix mod is available, but people shouldn't have to do CA's work for free all the time.
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Aug 16, 2023 18:07
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honestly at this point I think CA kinda depends on mods. I don't even use them but the last year has been pushing me to at least the community but fix one I think their testing process has to be broken at this point and they can only support regression testing for major releases
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Aug 16, 2023 18:09
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don't you have to jump through hoops and pay fees with platform providers each and every time you want to issue a patch
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Aug 16, 2023 18:15
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Steam doesn't charge to patch, and I can't imagine Epic does. I think patching being a pain is just for consoles.
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Aug 16, 2023 18:19
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Lt. Danger posted:don't you have to jump through hoops and pay fees with platform providers each and every time you want to issue a patch Updating a game on Steam is free and fairly straightforward. https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/updates
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Aug 16, 2023 18:21
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Whether the achievements are in fact live on Steam or not, I am enjoying the TW3 Warriors of Chaos immensely. After slapping a collar on Kostaltyn and eradicating Throt, I've gone north and found Boris down to one settlement and half a stack. Now he is also part of Azazel's collection, and duly declared war on his daughter when I picked Katarin for my next target. I'm kind of aiming to collect all the LLs except skaven I can now, just because. Throgg and Khazrak are steadily succumbing to seductive influence just by peacefully being friends.
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Yeah WH3 WoC are a bit of a faceroll but fun as hell regardless. In my last Realm campaign as Valkia I vassalized Kostaltyn just like you, but then two turns later Katarin confederated him and he stabbed me in the back 
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Lt. Danger posted:don't you have to jump through hoops and pay fees with platform providers each and every time you want to issue a patch That's only a console thing and modern TW titles aren't available on consoles.
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ninjahedgehog posted:Yeah WH3 WoC are a bit of a faceroll but fun as hell regardless. In my last Realm campaign as Valkia I vassalized Kostaltyn just like you, but then two turns later Katarin confederated him and he stabbed me in the back NO loyalty I guess
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Aug 16, 2023 19:53
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I really hope they just get rid of the horrible Great Bastion mechanic for the other two Cathay lords and give them something more interesting like this new guy gets. That poo poo really sucks.
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Exo- posted:I really hope they just get rid of the horrible Great Bastion mechanic for the other two Cathay lords and give them something more interesting like this new guy gets. That poo poo really sucks.
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ninjahedgehog posted:I vassalized Kostaltyn just like you, but then two turns later Katarin confederated him and he stabbed me in the back That can happen? I was wondering what the limits to vassalization were, since I've had to pay Kostaltyn to take these random minor settlements off my hands and his opinion of me is only dropping even though he's my vassal, has maxed out Slaanesh corruption, and dutifully followed me when I measured Boris for some leather straps. I think Azazel is on to something about this guy having the makings of a Chaos Lord of Slaanesh. This event fired about two turns after I vassalized him.
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Aug 16, 2023 20:07
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My last cathay playthrough part of my great bastion was attritioned somehow. Why? What? I still don't understand it and it makes me want to not care about the great bastion.
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Aug 16, 2023 20:07
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neonchameleon posted:the sword was a sidearm true for a lot of infantry but there are plenty of exceptions to this. the romans, famously, but in the early modern period you had the terico formations which had a third of their number consisting of the good ol sword and boardsmen. there's other examples im forgetting because my memory sucks and im tired but there are other examples where the sword was the primary instrument for a soldier. deffo not as often as the spear but the empire swordsmen aren't the katana samurai of warhams
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jokes posted:My last cathay playthrough part of my great bastion was attritioned somehow. Why? What? The Bastions get normal attrition and it’s dumb. The best thing to do is station big armies there and construct the upkeep reduction building. When enemies attack you can just move troops from one Bastion to the other, double-team them, and then return the troops to their barracks.
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Cao Cao in WH3 is gonna be so fun
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