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cdc: May 28, 2007; To you, Baldrick, the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?

Data Graham posted:

Same here (I don't generally resell my computers, but this M1P 16" is staying with me until there's something markedly better which I'm not even sure I can picture).

The only thing that bugs me about it (still) is the gigantic trackpad which still gives me fits, and relatedly the top case that takes patina from my hands real bad. I got a hand rest protector decal from Amazon that fits nicely and solves the patina problem, though it's too late to save the top case for reselling I'm sure; they'd have to swap that out if they were going to refurb it (I imagine they do that anyway as a matter of course).

The decal kit came with a trackpad-sized piece too which I guess is supposed to just go on top of the trackpad and protect it from thumbprints while transmitting touch, but I didn't put it on because both of those are pointless for me � a) the trackpad doesn't take patina anywhere near as bad as the case itself does (still looks pristine), and b) what I really want is a touch-blocking mask decal about 1" wide that I can just stick to the left side of the trackpad and make it dead for my left thumb. I'm going to try cutting a piece of foil to fit under a strip I trim from it and see if that helps.

Such a dumb problem to have and it could be easily solved in software but apparently Apple has moved all the trackpad APIs deep down into the kext layer so nothing third-party can get at it anymore. So we're reduced to gluing foil to the drat thing

Huh? How do you manage to do that? I used my old MBP for hours a day for almost ten years and apart from a few scratches there's no patina at all.

# ? Aug 14, 2023 18:43

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# ? May 30, 2024 06:14

Data Graham: Dec 28, 2009; 📈📊🍪😋

Beats me. It never happened with any of my previous MBPs, with the same usage patterns going back ~20 years, but my M1 now looks like this:

Data Graham posted:

So after a year and change with my M1 MBP,

Is there anything I can do to get rid of this patina from my hands resting on it? I've tried isopropyl, vinegar, ...

How the hell does this even happen to aluminum

Data Graham fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Aug 14, 2023

# ? Aug 14, 2023 18:45

trilobite terror: Oct 20, 2007; BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

this is why I�ll never get a space gray MBP

# ? Aug 14, 2023 18:49

cdc: May 28, 2007; To you, Baldrick, the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?

Ok Comboomer posted:

this is why I�ll never get a space gray MBP

Weird. A few years ago I had a space grey intel MBP at work, that over two years saw very heavy use. No patina on that either.

Do you guys sweat sulphuric acid or something like that?

# ? Aug 14, 2023 18:55

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

not the first time i've heard of this on the newer anodized macs

# ? Aug 14, 2023 18:59

Data Graham: Dec 28, 2009; 📈📊🍪😋

I suppose it's possible I started sweating different substances right around December 2021

# ? Aug 14, 2023 19:15

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

I do think it�s a body chemistry thing. I have like, decent hygiene and wash my hands multiple times per day but yes, I must sweat sulphuric acid or something. Everyone hypes the Pro screen but it hardly matters for me because mine is always smudged AF from the oils my fingers leave behind on the keys and where I rest my palms always have a bit of a patina like that. It�s the same on my old 2017 pro. So not new to this generation�s finish, it�s a me thing.

# ? Aug 14, 2023 19:15

trilobite terror: Oct 20, 2007; BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Riven posted:

I do think it�s a body chemistry thing. I have like, decent hygiene and wash my hands multiple times per day but yes, I must sweat sulphuric acid or something. Everyone hypes the Pro screen but it hardly matters for me because mine is always smudged AF from the oils my fingers leave behind on the keys and where I rest my palms always have a bit of a patina like that. It�s the same on my old 2017 pro. So not new to this generation�s finish, it�s a me thing.

https://youtu.be/sAkL2-vh2Sk

# ? Aug 14, 2023 19:25

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Highest compliment anyone could possibly give me.

# ? Aug 14, 2023 19:28

LionArcher: Mar 29, 2010

SourKraut posted:

That's because the 14" MBP is The Lord's Perfect Laptop and nobody can convince me otherwise!

I spent a lot of time in this thread wondering about it and the 15 inch air.

I got the 14 pro. It is a perfect laptop, and almost a month in I adore it.

# ? Aug 14, 2023 19:56

teen phone cutie: Jun 18, 2012; last year i rewrote something awful from scratch because i hate myself

can someone tell me how i'm supposed to know if the Caldigit Thunderbolt 3 is going to support the devices/wires I plug into it?

I've consistently had issues over the past couple years with mine, trying to get it to support 2 monitors. I can plug 1 monitor into a USB-C slot, but then I tried to plug a second monitor into the DisplayPort port and then tried a USB-C slot and both didn't work.

I've consistently had issues with knowing how to get these ports working together, and my only guess is that I've got too much poo poo plugged into it. Currently I use 2 USB ports for my keyboard and mouse, 1 USB-C to charge my laptop, and then 1 USB-C for my first monitor

as far as i'm concerned, this product is not worth the money, but maybe I just don't understand it.

# ? Aug 15, 2023 22:36

Mercurius: May 4, 2004; Amp it up.

teen phone cutie posted:

can someone tell me how i'm supposed to know if the Caldigit Thunderbolt 3 is going to support the devices/wires I plug into it?

I've consistently had issues over the past couple years with mine, trying to get it to support 2 monitors. I can plug 1 monitor into a USB-C slot, but then I tried to plug a second monitor into the DisplayPort port and then tried a USB-C slot and both didn't work.

I've consistently had issues with knowing how to get these ports working together, and my only guess is that I've got too much poo poo plugged into it. Currently I use 2 USB ports for my keyboard and mouse, 1 USB-C to charge my laptop, and then 1 USB-C for my first monitor

as far as i'm concerned, this product is not worth the money, but maybe I just don't understand it.

Assuming you've got a TS3 Plus try plugging your USB-C Monitor into the downstream Thunderbolt port (I've highlighted it in orange) in case you aren't already:

Plugging it into the downstream port forces it to go onto the other Thunderbolt channel and can help alleviate bandwidth problems if one of them is overloaded on the dock itself. This also works on TB docks intended for Windows devices such as the Dell WD docks and the HP Thunderbolt docks.

I don't know exactly what resolution monitors you're trying to run but Thunderbolt 3 can easily handle two ~4k signals at once with the right inputs. I've got two 1440p@120Hz running through my older Elgato Thunderbolt 3 dock using the same USB-C/DP combo you're trying to get working on the Caldigit one and I'm sure we have people at work with the same combo you're trying to use on that dock as well.

# ? Aug 16, 2023 00:24

Honj Steak: May 31, 2013; Hi there.

teen phone cutie posted:

can someone tell me how i'm supposed to know if the Caldigit Thunderbolt 3 is going to support the devices/wires I plug into it?

I've consistently had issues over the past couple years with mine, trying to get it to support 2 monitors. I can plug 1 monitor into a USB-C slot, but then I tried to plug a second monitor into the DisplayPort port and then tried a USB-C slot and both didn't work.

I've consistently had issues with knowing how to get these ports working together, and my only guess is that I've got too much poo poo plugged into it. Currently I use 2 USB ports for my keyboard and mouse, 1 USB-C to charge my laptop, and then 1 USB-C for my first monitor

as far as i'm concerned, this product is not worth the money, but maybe I just don't understand it.

What Mac do you use? M1 and M2 devices can�t do more than one external monitor.

# ? Aug 16, 2023 00:24

Papa Was A Video Toaster: Jan 9, 2011

Honj Steak posted:

What Mac do you use? M1 and M2 devices can�t do more than one external monitor.

Well the desktops can do two screens, but they don't have a built in screen. So two screens total on M1/M2, assuming they are like 4k60 or less.

# ? Aug 16, 2023 00:29

teen phone cutie: Jun 18, 2012; last year i rewrote something awful from scratch because i hate myself

Mercurius posted:

Assuming you've got a TS3 Plus try plugging your USB-C Monitor into the downstream Thunderbolt port (I've highlighted it in orange) in case you aren't already:

Plugging it into the downstream port forces it to go onto the other Thunderbolt channel and can help alleviate bandwidth problems if one of them is overloaded on the dock itself. This also works on TB docks intended for Windows devices such as the Dell WD docks and the HP Thunderbolt docks.

I don't know exactly what resolution monitors you're trying to run but Thunderbolt 3 can easily handle two ~4k signals at once with the right inputs. I've got two 1440p@120Hz running through my older Elgato Thunderbolt 3 dock using the same USB-C/DP combo you're trying to get working on the Caldigit one and I'm sure we have people at work with the same combo you're trying to use on that dock as well.

yep i'm using that for my first monitor. I have this monitor and some old lovely one which is definitely not anything past 1080:

https://www.amazon.com/LG-28MQ780-B-DualUp-Monitor-DCI-P3/dp/B09XTD5C7H

Honj Steak posted:

What Mac do you use? M1 and M2 devices can�t do more than one external monitor.

I have an M1 for work and an older 2016 Intel one :qq:

# ? Aug 16, 2023 00:33

Mercurius: May 4, 2004; Amp it up.

Honj Steak posted:

What Mac do you use? M1 and M2 devices can�t do more than one external monitor.

I didn't even think about that, it's a very good point. For reference, I'm using the Elgato stuff I talked about with a 14" MacBook Pro with an M1 Pro CPU that can output to two external displays.

E:

teen phone cutie posted:

yep i'm using that for my first monitor

I have an M1 for work and an older 2016 Intel one

Yeah, the M1 laptops can only do a single external screen. M1 Pro does two and M1 Max does three.

# ? Aug 16, 2023 00:33

trilobite terror: Oct 20, 2007; BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Mercurius posted:

Yeah, the M1 laptops can only do a single external screen. M1 Pro does two and M1 Max does three.

M1 Max supports four external displays

# ? Aug 16, 2023 01:04

Warbird: May 23, 2012; America's Favorite Dumbass

Honj Steak posted:

What Mac do you use? M1 and M2 devices can�t do more than one external monitor.

False. My M2 Max has run up to 3 external displays at once.

# ? Aug 16, 2023 13:48

SlowBloke: Aug 14, 2017

Warbird posted:

False. My M2 Max has run up to 3 external displays at once.

M1 and M2 (without any following words) have two display outputs. He's right.

# ? Aug 16, 2023 13:58

Grassy Knowles: Apr 4, 2003; "The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Warbird posted:

False. My M2 Max has run up to 3 external displays at once.

Your M2 Max isn�t an M2 your and this distinction was clearly addressed in the posts between the one you replied to and the one you stumbled in to made. This was two posts up and the edit was before your stupid comment.

Mercurius posted:

I didn't even think about that, it's a very good point. For reference, I'm using the Elgato stuff I talked about with a 14" MacBook Pro with an M1 Pro CPU that can output to two external displays.

E:

Yeah, the M1 laptops can only do a single external screen. M1 Pro does two and M1 Max does three.

# ? Aug 16, 2023 15:02

trilobite terror: Oct 20, 2007; BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Grassy Knowles posted:

Your M2 Max isn�t an M2 your and this distinction was clearly addressed in the posts between the one you replied to and the one you stumbled in to made. This was two posts up and the edit was before your stupid comment.

hell yeah thread fight

# ? Aug 16, 2023 15:21

Warbird: May 23, 2012; America's Favorite Dumbass

Please go take a walk or something Grassy.

SlowBloke posted:

M1 and M2 (without any following words) have two display outputs. He's right.

That�s fair. The naming standard we�re working with here isn�t doing any favors as the collective term for a generation of the CPU is also valid for a specific version of each generation as well. Something something land of contrasts.

# ? Aug 16, 2023 15:35

Grassy Knowles: Apr 4, 2003; "The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Sorry if that was a bit much in tone, when people are worried about having to return their $1k+ purchases they made based on scanning thread advice a simple but sure of itself statement reminds me of all the lies my colleagues would say when I was in electronics sales.

# ? Aug 16, 2023 15:37