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How many of this month's B-league main eventers do you recognize without googling? This poll is closed. |
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| Logan Storley |
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16 | 9.20% |
| Brennan Ward |
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17 | 9.77% |
| Chingiz Allazov |
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13 | 7.47% |
| Marat Grigorian |
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7 | 4.02% |
| Bubba Jenkins |
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21 | 12.07% |
| Jesus Pinedo |
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4 | 2.30% |
| Renan Ferreira |
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7 | 4.02% |
| Maurice Greene |
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24 | 13.79% |
| Clay Collard |
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22 | 12.64% |
| Shane Burgos |
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43 | 24.71% |
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kimbo305 posted:Wonderboy married his sister huh?
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Aug 19, 2023 06:59
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mewse posted:huh? Yeah, I edited with the corrected familial info -- it's Wonderboy's brother and Weidman's sister.
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Aug 19, 2023 07:17
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dana: abuses spouse on camera mma media: what a guy  https://twitter.com/FightersOnly/status/1692869023065854424?t=AMyJFiPk_z5ufzxguhSE9w&s=19 i fuckin hate liking this sport
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Aug 19, 2023 18:44
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Not many comments but at least they’re all clued in.
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Aug 19, 2023 19:13
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Can I write in Francis?
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Aug 19, 2023 19:22
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Massive levels of overachievement in sycophancy. Also, we're 30 minutes out from UFC prelims, so head over to Digital Jedi's multi-GDT. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4039751
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Aug 19, 2023 23:00
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Jiro posted:Good afternoon MMA thread I am but a humble wrasslin guy and enjoy my fighting games. Frankie's a tiktok comedian https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CesASm7QVe4
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Aug 19, 2023 23:13
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at the short guy getting knocked out.
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Now I wish we could have seen a prime JDS in Pride https://twitter.com/DrakeRiggs_/status/1692572860450226218?s=20
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Aug 19, 2023 23:50
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The fountain of youth is full of Ostarine
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Aug 19, 2023 23:54
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christ on a bike, did he order gear from Krypton edit: his abs look like videogame plate mail and his arms are wider around than his waist hahahaha hes developed the proportions of an SF6 character DoombatINC fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Aug 20, 2023 |
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Aug 19, 2023 23:59
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kimbo305 posted:What happened with Serra-Longo? I haven’t followed that team or Weidman’s training closely. Did Serra retire? Aljo was hanging out with Andrew Tate or some other right wing grifter not that long ago. gently caress him even if he made Yan fans cry. DoombatINC posted:christ on a bike, did he order gear from Krypton I always used to say he moved a lot like a street fighter character. The way he could close distance and punch was balrog or dudley esque. I wouldn't be surprised if he could actually pull off an S-Art now.
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Aug 20, 2023 01:18
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jds return to aew please
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Aug 20, 2023 01:39
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Digital Jedi posted:Now I wish we could have seen a prime JDS in Pride Steroids are insane lol
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Aug 20, 2023 02:03
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God I wish I had some steroids.
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Aug 20, 2023 02:41
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Digital Jedi posted:By the end of the year there is a possibility we have Colby, Strickland, and O'Malley as UFC champs 1 for 3 so far
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Aug 20, 2023 06:37
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https://twitter.com/aaronbronsteter/status/1693138546721219039 Things are going to be so much dumber in a couple years.
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Aug 20, 2023 07:04
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It's kinda dumb really. Dana did this guy who just knocked the champion out in the 2nd round deserve to be in the ring with the champion?
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Aug 20, 2023 07:07
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BlindSite posted:It's kinda dumb really. I mean, objectively, no. Did he win and thus prove he's the #1 guy? Totally. Did he deserve the shot? Not really. The two can, and with more regularity are, becoming entirely separate things. We will have this conversation again in December when Sean O'Malley is fighting Marlon Vera instead of Merab Dvalishvili.
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Aug 20, 2023 07:15
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CarlCX posted:https://twitter.com/aaronbronsteter/status/1693138546721219039 I really hope that's an exact quote because Dana White privilege is right in the Dana White power slap vein
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Aug 20, 2023 07:34
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Whens the last time the UFC put the results of the main event straight to YouTube? Man they're gonna market O'Malley to the moon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY5cZITcrF4
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Aug 20, 2023 07:47
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lol again
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Aug 20, 2023 08:00
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ilmucche posted:I really hope that's an exact quote because Dana White privilege is right in the Dana White power slap vein It is, because "Dana White Privilege" is a Tony Ferguson-ism that caught on like wildfire iirc two years ago from when he fought diaz or chandler maybe. It's come up a lot especially on twitter when people are tweeting at Dana.
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Aug 20, 2023 08:05
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chaleski posted:Whens the last time the UFC put the results of the main event straight to YouTube? Man they're gonna market O'Malley to the moon. it's a fuckin beautiful clip, he made it easy for them I guess. they ought to have the slow mo of the good shots of it in there though teemolover42069 fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Aug 20, 2023 |
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Aug 20, 2023 08:07
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> White on a possible Weili vs. Xiaonan fight in China sometime in the near future: "Probably." Should time it around Song Yadong's recovery. Tho tbh, I don't think it'd matter what the undercard was. The gate would be huge no matter what.
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Aug 20, 2023 08:24
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Adesanya losing at 205 really wasn't good for the MW division huh, how the gently caress is Strickland in a title fight.
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Aug 20, 2023 09:09
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Adesanya losing at 205 really wasn't good for the MW division huh, how the gently caress is Strickland in a title fight. Basically, of the top ten,
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Aug 20, 2023 09:54
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Also, with Sterling losing the belt, the current roster of UFC champions has 8 title defenses between them and 5 of those defenses belong to Alexander Volkanovski.
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Aug 20, 2023 10:06
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Been awhile, but it feels like that should've kept going. Edit: The O'Malley knockout. Felt like Sterling was rolling to his feet and the ref jumped in before he was finished moving. Volkova III fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Aug 20, 2023 |
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Aug 20, 2023 17:36
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Volkova III posted:Been awhile, but it feels like that should've kept going. Which that?
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Aug 20, 2023 19:07
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   very exciting fighter. He reminds me a lot of Conor as evidenced above, but he has a little more of Chuck + Jardine in him. his angles are weirder like them and he has really tight hooks like them. I have no idea what to call the style, but it's much less straight karate like vintage Conor was.
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Aug 20, 2023 21:00
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Both knockdowns there illustrate what happens if you’re short on reach and decide to stop your offense with your head right there. It’s crazy and disappointing that a grappling oriented fighter of Aljo’s caliber can still make that mistake.
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Aug 20, 2023 21:20
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Aljo going up in weight really fucks with his legacy imo. They’re gonna protect O’Malley from Merab even if he’s now unclogged to fight.
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Aug 20, 2023 21:30
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Disclaimer: this post isn't meant to be disingenuous/inflammatory, genuinely asking for those who remember better, ty! What IS the dana white privilege malley got to enjoy specifically? IIRC o'malley certainly had a much longer UFC run up to title than the likes of izzy, pereira and chandler, only difference being those guys were all undefeated beforehand while o'malley was not. The petr yan decision was bullshit but wasn't ultimately up to dana (tho with his stopping aljo kinda renders that moot now. he def deserved the shot). Best I can think of were that most of his fights were cans leading up to the top 10?
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Aug 20, 2023 22:15
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kimbo305 posted:Aljo going up in weight really fucks with his legacy imo. They’re gonna protect O’Malley from Merab even if he’s now unclogged to fight. he's got an absolutely bizarre legacy. won the title completely deservingly by the rules--illegal strike rules are there for a reason--but completely undeservingly in the eyes of probably 99% of fans. then he won a razor-thin coulda-gone-either-way split decision, then beat a one-armed guy, then won a razor-thin-but-probably-the-right-call split decision against a guy who hasn't fought in three years. then got slept by a guy who everyone rightfully thought got an easy push to the title fight. he's a great fighter, but its gotta be the weakest title reign ever in the eyes of most of the public.
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Aug 20, 2023 22:39
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beep by grandpa posted:Disclaimer: this post isn't meant to be disingenuous/inflammatory, genuinely asking for those who remember better, ty! So you could get real abstract with this, but I don't think you have to because there are three easy answers. One is the least matchmaking-centric but most obvious: The UFC promoted the gently caress out of O'Malley from day one. O'Malley has made one preliminary appearance in his entire UFC run, and it was the fight after his leg exploded and he pissed hot for ostarine and was gone for two years. Aljo was still on the prelims two fights before he was fighting for the title and he wasn't even headlining said prelims. The marketing engine has been 100% behind O'Malley since the beginning of his UFC tenure. Which isn't, in itself, a bad thing--effective marketing is good!--but it's a privilege very, very few fighters get, and it's basically just the ones the UFC really cares about. Two is the matchmaking. You're absolutely right that Pereira and Chandler had faster runs to the title, but for one, both of those runs were also widely criticized for exactly how fake and astroturfed they were, and for two, Pereira had the complicating factor of, at least, having knocked out Adesanya in kickboxing, which--like, it's still stupid, but at least it's something. More importantly, though: Pereira and Chandler both obliterated their contenders. Sean Strickland was the #4 middleweight on a six-fight winning streak when Pereira crushed him in one round, and Dan Hooker was the #8 lightweight who'd just won three fights and lost a war with Dustin Poirier when Chandler crushed him in one round. O'Malley did not have either of those things. Like, you said "most of his fights were cans leading up to the top 10," but he didn't actually get into the top ten. He fought three cans, somehow got ranked in the top fifteen out of it, then fought Pedro Munhoz, who was #10, on a two-fight losing streak and 1 for his last 5, and they stalemated for a round and then O'Malley poked his eye out for an NC. And off of that performance, Munhoz got booked to fight Chris Gutierrez in the fringe top fifteen and O'Malley got booked to fight the #1 guy in the division, and the rest is history. And three are the circumstances surrounding the title fight itself. Dana shits on everyone who sits around waiting for a title shot, but Sean O'Malley got his victory over Petr Yan last October and the UFC didn't even try to book him at any point in that interim, while every other bantamweight contender fought once or sometimes twice and, in some cases, are already booked for a third. They had him sit around and wait for a title shot so as not to jeopardize it, and they were so bent on it that when Aljamain rightfully pointed out that he'd defended the belt twice in that time and really needed more than three months to recover from injuries and actually prepare for a title fight, Dana White very publicly told him to get hosed and that Sean O'Malley was fighting for a championship either with him or without him. Like, the instant replay of Sean O'Malley's victory last night was sponsored by a partnership between the UFC and Sweet Sweat's personal sponsorship of Sean O'Malley. It is not subtle and they're not trying to be subtle about it.
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Aug 20, 2023 22:53
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beep by grandpa posted:Disclaimer: this post isn't meant to be disingenuous/inflammatory, genuinely asking for those who remember better, ty! it's mostly that you can (rightfully) see how drooling Dana + the UFC are about him being champ. So they treated the Munhoz fight like it was a win, they treated the Yan fight like it was a clear win, they hype him up and market him endlessly. Which is not entirely illogical. He's a flashy champion with media skills and a unique look and a very compelling style with a great highlight reel and an Irish name, which is especially important for the huge Irish diaspora in America that feels like they can claim citizenship with 5% blood. They're definitely going to promote him more and give him an easier path to the title than like, Belal Muhammad. It probably makes sense. The same marketing push behind someone like Belal Muhammad would most likely return less. It's the ugly business side of the sport. It's why he's going to fight Chito next almost guaranteed, and they're gonna try to give a bad matchup to Merab and hope that he loses, and we're all gonna angry post. Or they're gonna try to get Merab to step in to fight him on like three weeks' notice and then use that as an excuse to not give Merab the fight if Merab declines. Which, y'know, they're a public company. The value of O'Malley being champ instead of Merab is presumably massive. So Dana and Ari literally have a fiduciary responsibility to try and maximize that. So they gotta walk this tight rope of "it's a real sport, we swear!!!" and "of course we don't give people easy paths!!!". And it's true. He DID have to knock Aljo out and have at least a close fight with Yan and blah blah blah. But like, as a comparison, in hockey, the very best teams have an expected goals ratio of like...56-60%. At the highest levels of MMA, even if they're tilting the percentages in Sean's favor a little bit, that could potentially swing things quite a bit. It's better than boxing, where they literally fix fights or have people fight absolute cans en route to mostly fake titles. But it kinda sucks if you're into the whole "this is a real sport" type of thing. We bitch about it in the same way NBA players bitch about reffing in NBA elimination games. gotta make that bread
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beep by grandpa posted:Disclaimer: this post isn't meant to be disingenuous/inflammatory, genuinely asking for those who remember better, ty! another one I can think of for omalley is that all but two of his fights have been on ppv main cards. his first fight in the ufc was second from the top of a ultimate fighter finale. then like his 3rd or 4th fight was at the top of a ppv prelim. everything else was ppv main card fights. fairly crazy for a guy without any sort of legacy outside the ufc. CarlCX posted:And three are the circumstances surrounding the title fight itself. Dana shits on everyone who sits around waiting for a title shot, but Sean O'Malley got his victory over Petr Yan last October and the UFC didn't even try to book him at any point in that interim, while every other bantamweight contender fought once or sometimes twice and, in some cases, are already booked for a third. They had him sit around and wait for a title shot so as not to jeopardize it, and they were so bent on it that when Aljamain rightfully pointed out that he'd defended the belt twice in that time and really needed more than three months to recover from injuries and actually prepare for a title fight, Dana White very publicly told him to get hosed and that Sean O'Malley was fighting for a championship either with him or without him. completely forgot about this bullshit Ringo Roadagain fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Aug 20, 2023 |
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Aug 20, 2023 23:03
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Thanks for the wonderful answers, this is truly the best and most knowledgeable group of posters out there  It did make me realize right away that, and if you re-read my question in this context that before I read these posts I was extremely narrowly defining "Dana White privilege" as simply work towards a title shot and nothing else. I think that's cause that's how how I defined it in my head when I first heard Tony Ferguson(?) coin the term. But yeah all the other variables- promotion, PPV priority, etc really affects a fighter's ability to earn a living and pick up fights, not just how close they get to the belt. Good poo poo in here as always. That said, I am kind of a little happy for Sean O'Malley cause he definitely proved everybody wrong including myself who thought he didn't stand a chance out there to stand with Aljo, who's looked pretty much invincible other than the Petr fights.
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Aug 20, 2023 23:22
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they're probably gonna make merab fight cory while they set up the chito/omalley fight in hopes that sandhagen can solve their merab problem.
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What has O'Malley's pay been like? That could be another example of DWP.
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