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When good people are greedy it's called "drive", duh.
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Wait I thought it was "hustle"
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Aug 17, 2023 14:28
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Scholtz posted:Wait I thought it was "hustle" 
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Aug 17, 2023 14:46
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a movie had a good guy say greed is good, a movie and a good guy wouldnt lie?
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Aug 17, 2023 19:18
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PhazonLink posted:a movie had a good guy say greed is good, a movie and a good guy wouldnt lie? he wasn't the good guy of that movie, op edit: Mooseontheloose posted:Incorrect, he made a lot of money and had many beautiful women. Clearly the good guy. i stand corrected aBagorn fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Aug 17, 2023 |
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Aug 17, 2023 19:58
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aBagorn posted:he wasn't the good guy of that movie, op Incorrect, he made a lot of money and had many beautiful women. Clearly the good guy.
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Aug 17, 2023 21:23
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All movies are documentaries and the main character is always the good guy that you should identify with no matter what he does This is also true for TV. Especially the hit series Breaking Bad
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Aug 17, 2023 21:58
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No only if he's a white man who does cool poo poo with guns and/or capitalism. When Falling Down man said "I'm the bad guy?" that's because he was the good guy.
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Aug 17, 2023 22:01
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Guavanaut posted:No only if he's a white man who does cool poo poo with guns and/or capitalism. This is why Blue Bloods is the greatest show ever made.
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Aug 17, 2023 22:02
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Elephant Ambush posted:All movies are documentaries and the main character is always the good guy that you should identify with no matter what he does
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Aug 17, 2023 22:15
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Aug 17, 2023 22:19
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 Not shown, the 200+ comments about how it's stealing jobs.
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Aug 21, 2023 21:38
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Generally it sucks how swapping cashiers for self help kiosks means that if you buy more than 10 things (or some larger things that can't go on the little trays) then you're stuck waiting in line for 20 minutes for the two remaining actual cashiers. However if you don't enjoy beeping items then you have forgotten being a child.
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Aug 21, 2023 21:57
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Medullah posted:Not shown, the 200+ comments about how it's stealing jobs.
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Aug 21, 2023 22:03
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The self checkout owns because it's constantly giving me two-for-one specials
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Aug 21, 2023 22:12
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I love working for the store for free. I even grab the floor waxer and give the aisles a good buff so the business can fire more people to boost those shareholder profits. I feel like it's my duty to the job creators and it makes me happy to serve them.
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Aug 21, 2023 22:13
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Self checkouts are good when they don't have weight sensors because it sucks having to fight with a machine. Meijers has stand up ones that don't even have a platform, just a bag holder, that you can only buy 5 things at. It's great for dashing through when you just want something to cook for dinner. Going through cashiers behind people who had four weeks of food in their cart during covid has convinced me that I hate manned check-outs and how slow they are. It is a staffing issue but they sure as poo poo aren't going to start fully staffing ever again. Also if you don't enjoy beeping barcodes then you have forgotten being a child.
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Aug 21, 2023 22:19
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If I'm expecting my checkout process to be even mildly complex, e.g. buying fruit or alcohol or using a coupon, I'll go through the staffed checkout because it will save me so much headache.
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Aug 21, 2023 22:22
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It's really a lot like the "if we get rid of coal as a resource coal miners will all be out of work!". Like if companies decided to get rid of self checkout they'd hire a bunch of cashiers. Move on, the world is evolving. Let them train the former cashiers to stock shelves, unload trucks, clean the store.
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Aug 21, 2023 22:36
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Medullah posted:Let them train the former cashiers to stock shelves, unload trucks, clean the store. lmao yeah that's what they'll do
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Aug 21, 2023 22:48
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Maybe they can invent a computer that will tell customers to unload the trucks for free too
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Aug 21, 2023 22:51
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nerd plus rage posted:lmao yeah that's what they'll do They already have to loving do that.
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Aug 21, 2023 22:56
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As someone who worked as a cashier/stock person, I love self-checkouts. I know the process and I can put my stuff in bags how I want it to be. Also, they have not gotten rid of those jobs, they have just shifted them over to other areas such as fulfilling online orders. It would not surprise me if Walmart is just a giant fulfillment center in 10 years where no one goes in and you just pull up and they bring your items to your car.
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Aug 21, 2023 22:56
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And then I have my caddy and chauffeur load them to create jobs.
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Aug 21, 2023 22:58
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Self checkouts aren't labor saving devices that free mankind of a burdensome chore, they're a computer that tells someone else to do the chore for free so the company can save money on labor.
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Aug 21, 2023 23:04
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:As someone who worked as a cashier/stock person, I love self-checkouts. I know the process and I can put my stuff in bags how I want it to be. That's essentially what Best Buy has become. I worked there from 1998-2011 and watched as it went from 4-5 people working in 6 or so departments to 1-2 per department with some combined. From what I hear now it's just a couple employees working at any given time with two managers total per store.
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Aug 21, 2023 23:04
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VitalSigns posted:Self checkouts aren't labor saving devices that free mankind of a burdensome chore, they're a computer that tells someone else to do the chore for free so the company can save money on labor.  Self checkouts lead to a lot more labor overall, because randos are way slower at scanning/bagging than an actual employee
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Aug 21, 2023 23:27
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VitalSigns posted:Self checkouts aren't labor saving devices that free mankind of a burdensome chore, they're a computer that tells someone else to do the chore for free so the company can save money on labor. Bingo. Computers don't ask for a union or have "unreasonable" demands like more free time and better pay.
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Aug 21, 2023 23:45
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Medullah posted:That's essentially what Best Buy has become. I worked there from 1998-2011 and watched as it went from 4-5 people working in 6 or so departments to 1-2 per department with some combined. From what I hear now it's just a couple employees working at any given time with two managers total per store. Imo it depends on what kind of store you are, because old people prefer to shop in person and also don't understand technology. Whereas you don't have confused people trying to ask grocery store employees about the latest in watermellon technology.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Bingo. Computers don't ask for a union or have "unreasonable" demands like more free time and better pay.
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Medullah posted:That's essentially what Best Buy has become. I worked there from 1998-2011 and watched as it went from 4-5 people working in 6 or so departments to 1-2 per department with some combined. From what I hear now it's just a couple employees working at any given time with two managers total per store. With staffing that low, who the heck are the karen's going to turn to? Not that I have much use for best buy. Last time I went there tried buying a computer for my friend was in the early aughties, We found a demo computer we liked. We did not find a clerk interested in helping us get a model we could take to the cashier. When we finally got a manager involve, he flagged down the nearest grunt and was told 'in a minute boss', then stood around looking helpless and annoyed as the clerk proceeded to gently caress off somewhere for as long as it took for us to read the writing on the wall and go next door to Circuit City. Where we were then instantly glommed onto by a salesman who .insisted. my friend needed the most powerful computer in the store for his Facebook needs.
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Aug 22, 2023 01:55
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BiggerBoat posted:They already have to loving do that. What he's saying/rolling his eyes at is the notion that the company would actually invest any of this extra money into their employees instead of what they'll actually do which is fire as many people as they can get away with and then put all of the extra work onto whoever is left with no expectation of pay raise or better hours while the profits funnel immediately to the shareholders.
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If self-checkouts used some RFID magic to total up everything in your cart instantly as you walked by then the arguments about labor-saving devices freeing us from menial jobs would make sense, but it's literally just telling you to use the same equipment the cashier has, but with an extra weight sensor to waste your time to make it a bit harder for you to steal, and a lack of control in the UI to waste your time if you're buying alcohol or the system just fucks up and needs an employee to punch a code in. Much less efficient but the costs are shifted to you, someone loses their job, and the store gets more profit
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Aug 22, 2023 02:28
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I dont think anyone sane is saying they are labor savings, self check outs are great because buying a tomato doesn't need to be a 10 minute social event.
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Aug 22, 2023 03:14
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It doesn't take a cashier 10 minutes to ring up a tomato lol
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CuddleCryptid posted:I dont think anyone sane is saying they are labor savings, self check outs are great because buying a tomato doesn't need to be a 10 minute social event. And if self checkouts were limited to some sort of 10-item or less express lane for that purpose, that'd be one thing. But hell, they're currently remodeling the walmart near my house to be like 90% self checkout lines and maybe 2 registers still worked by an employee. VitalSigns posted:It doesn't take a cashier 10 minutes to ring up a tomato lol No, but if the store is busy you may end up waiting in line 10+ minutes while they ring up everyone in front of you.
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VitalSigns posted:It doesn't take a cashier 10 minutes to ring up a tomato lol It does when there are 9 people in line in front of you. At the local grocery here there are 12 self checkouts, and almost never a line. I express no opinion on the labor impact or what can be done about that, but I have zero doubt that the self checkouts have reduced the amount of time I spend waiting to pay for my stuff.
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The national chains have clearly decided that increased risk of theft is worth hiring fewer people, may as well take them up on thar calculated risk. 
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Self checkouts can be faster in stores that put in like 20 of them so you have a good chance of having one open immediately if it isn't too busy instead of getting stuck in line at one of the two open registers they'd normally staff during off peak hours, but all that really shows is how much better service the business is capable of providing but doesn't want to because money. Self-checkout can also be slower if the store is really busy and you have to wait behind a bunch of people checking themselves out slower than cashiers. Stores could staff plenty of registers to keep lines short but then sometimes they'd end up with people in the floor who have time to lean instead of time to clean and well can't have that.
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VitalSigns posted:Self checkouts can be faster in stores that put in like 20 of them so you have a good chance of having one open immediately if it isn't too busy instead of getting stuck in line at one of the two open registers they'd normally staff during off peak hours, but all that really shows is how much better service the business is capable of providing but doesn't want to because money. Self-checkout can also be slower if the store is really busy and you have to wait behind a bunch of people checking themselves out slower than cashiers. There's also going to end up being an ableism angle too, isn't there? I mean, if the registers don't need a person working them, then they're going to expect those workers to stick to stocking and cleaning and whatever else, and I'm sure there are people who can't do anything more physically demanding than running a register. There's bound to be locations that have more employees on that list than they have accommodations.
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