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The US Space Force Space Base Delta Seven, which as it turns out is a hole in the ground in Colorado filled with feces
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Aug 21, 2023 02:16
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The Oldest Man posted:The US Space Force Space Base Delta Seven, which as it turns out is a hole in the ground in Colorado filled with feces Moon base eagle alpha prime is going to follow the same construction layout.
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Aug 21, 2023 02:23
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The Oldest Man posted:It's this one because it's functionally the same thing as that batman giving the thumbs up and then flying into the wtc meme but without a hint of irony yep. it's incredible the more i think about it the more pissed i get that the dutch windmill one doesn't have a windmill on fire in the back ground though Frosted Flake posted:We're going to see a lot more of this one in the next months it's gonna be cool for everyone to become an expert on chinese weapons systems and political/military structure Cuttlefush has issued a correction as of 02:37 on Aug 21, 2023 |
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Aug 21, 2023 02:34
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this discussion of the space force got me wondering if the space force actually has any astronauts in it, and I suspected the answer was 'no', so I looked it up, and I was wrong! there are in fact astronauts who are commissioned in the Space Force. there are two none of the four active-duty military guys selected as astronauts in the time since Space Force was formed were members of Space Force, although two of them are in the Air Force, lmao
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Aug 21, 2023 02:41
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It's Jon McNaughton but for the MIC
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Aug 21, 2023 02:41
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Cuttlefush posted:hard to pick a fave The Apache's over the Netherlands is mine because I assume they're their freeing American war criminals
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Aug 21, 2023 02:43
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KomradeX posted:The Apache's over the Netherlands is mine because I assume they're their freeing American war criminals netherlands actually has 30 apaches or something so i think that's just to commemorate that sale or more recent updgrades, unfortunately
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Aug 21, 2023 03:30
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Cuttlefush posted:netherlands actually has 30 apaches or something so i think that's just to commemorate that sale or more recent updgrades, unfortunately just in time to hand over to ukraine
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Aug 21, 2023 03:39
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I'm kinda surprised the invincible apache hasn't made the wunderwaffen list considering it's literally designed to blow up Russian tanks and is a lot cheaper than f16's. The situation for attack choppers must be absolutely dire for them to not even ask
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Aug 21, 2023 03:56
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Apaches didn't make the cut because Ukraine already had gunships and they know what happened to them
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Aug 21, 2023 04:05
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mRNA COVID vaccines .... wunderwaffen?
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Aug 21, 2023 05:02
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gradenko_2000 posted:Apaches didn't make the cut because Ukraine already had gunships and they know what happened to them Ukraine also had an air force and we saw what happened to it. Hey did you hear the US has hyper sonic weapons US Navy destroyer to be fitted with hypersonic missiles quote:The USS Zumwalt has previously been criticized by media outlets, such as the Huffington Post, for the enormous cost invested in the ship and by Business Insider for various technical issues the destroyer has encountered.
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Aug 21, 2023 05:03
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The Oldest Man posted:The US Space Force Space Base Delta Seven, which as it turns out is a hole in the ground in Colorado filled with feces that hole has a name. its Colorado Springs.
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Aug 21, 2023 05:03
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Wait so they are not going to retire the Zumwalt? They are going to make very powerful photoshop composite "paintings".
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Aug 21, 2023 09:29
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KomradeX posted:Ukraine also had an air force and we saw what happened to it. Pfft the US has laser weapons already! They just haven't seen fit to widely deploy them, for uh, reasons.
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Aug 21, 2023 11:47
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Slavvy posted:I'm kinda surprised the invincible apache hasn't made the wunderwaffen list considering it's literally designed to blow up Russian tanks and is a lot cheaper than f16's. The situation for attack choppers must be absolutely dire for them to not even ask I've seen it mentioned in a few books that the one that was shot down in 2003 and paraded through Baghdad actually hurt export sales. I barely remember it, I don't think losing a helicopter is a big deal, but apparently it was damaging in some vague PR sense. Enough that Comanche was cancelled the following year as well.
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Frosted Flake posted:Enough that Comanche was cancelled the following year as well. The Comanche was cancelled because it cost a gajillion dollars and didn’t do that much more than an Apache, not because an Apache got shot down. Instead, the US continued new production and fielding of upgraded Apaches.
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Aug 21, 2023 15:05
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apaches got the neck trauma inducing sensor helmets and the special soar helicopters got all the stealth poo poo (and crashed lol) and everyone got some good games out of it
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Aug 21, 2023 15:09
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Frosted Flake posted:I've seen it mentioned in a few books that the one that was shot down in 2003 and paraded through Baghdad actually hurt export sales. Didn't India cancelled their Ka helicopter orders last year? I don't know how much KA was shot down before India cancelled the deal.
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Aug 21, 2023 15:10
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Yeah the Comanche was cool as hell in the Novalogic games
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stephenthinkpad posted:Didn't India cancelled their Ka helicopter orders last year? I don't know how much KA was shot down before India cancelled the deal. those were ka-31, not ka-52s. i dont think one has ever been shot down. i think india also didnt buy some ka-52s though years back
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Frosted Flake posted:I've seen it mentioned in a few books that the one that was shot down in 2003 and paraded through Baghdad actually hurt export sales. I remember the big thing about that was it had been shot down by dudes shooting it with their AKs. Which after 10 years of presenting it as a flying tank would obviously be hurt by that
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Aug 21, 2023 18:32
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Helicopters are great against people who lack 1940s or later technology to return fire. Which is a surprisingly large number of people owing to capability erosion. Edit - or in typical modern procurement the stockpile has X platforms and only enough ammo to last 1-3 days of operations, with a lead time of years if they try ordering more ammo from a boutique overseas factory. DancingShade has issued a correction as of 04:01 on Aug 22, 2023 |
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DancingShade posted:Helicopters are great against people who lack 1940s or later technology to return fire. i too have seen multiple videos of alligators hunting without being accosted by return fire
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Aug 22, 2023 04:06
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They can do damage, but not when they are being thrown into AD. The KA-52s do fine if they have at least a few kms between them and the front line, but one got recently got taken out by a MANPAD when it pushed too far up.
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Ardennes posted:They can do damage, but not when they are being thrown into AD. The KA-52s do fine if they have at least a few kms between them and the front line, but one got recently got taken out by a MANPAD when it pushed too far up. Hmm.. powerful weapons... that are effective against advancing troops... but themselves are not capable of advancing into an intact defense without immediately being destroyed...
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A tank destroyer!?
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Ardennes posted:They can do damage, but not when they are being thrown into AD. The KA-52s do fine if they have at least a few kms between them and the front line, but one got recently got taken out by a MANPAD when it pushed too far up. I wonder how large the engagement envelope is. Looks like they've got maybe 2-3km to play with, where their missile can reach but they're out of range for most light anti air
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The Oldest Man posted:Hmm.. powerful weapons... that are effective against advancing troops... but themselves are not capable of advancing into an intact defense without immediately being destroyed... Danann posted:A tank destroyer!? A fixed emplacement turret. Formed into some kind of line perhaps. Works like magic. Nah. Magic. Magic... maginot. A maginot line if you will. Just don't leave the side gate open. That's a whoopsie.
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Danann posted:A tank destroyer!? Genuinely, yes. Following US WW2 tank destroyer doctrine is actually a really good use of helicopters. The West just has convinced itself they are good for assault because the last time they faced an enemy with real air defence was probably Vietnam. I guess you could count Yugoslavia, but the air defence in Yugoslavia was enough that Apaches weren't deployed.
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Me flying the super ultra mega air assault heli murder machine 2000 loaded with every ordinance invented that costs an even billion per unit. Radio to base: Uh control small child spotted with slingshot, returning to base.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Yeah the Comanche was cool as hell in the Novalogic games back in my day we called it the LHX and thinking about it more I think the apache was still better in that game
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:Genuinely, yes. Following US WW2 tank destroyer doctrine is actually a really good use of helicopters. It's because "defense helicopter" doesn't sound as kick-rear end as "attack helicopter" op
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That's true, nobody is going to call a game Desert Hold when they can call it Desert Strike.
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Hmm, what if someone just put all of a helicopter's weapons up on a huge construction crane? They can go up 1000 ft and hold 720 tons, probably a lot cheaper than a helicopter too. Possibly not as mobile. Hell, you could put 70 or 80 howitzers on one of those bad boys but I could see the firing of those being a problem for the crane staying upright
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Hatebag posted:Hmm, what if someone just put all of a helicopter's weapons up on a huge construction crane? They can go up 1000 ft and hold 720 tons, probably a lot cheaper than a helicopter too. just fire in all directions at once to keep the forces balanced
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Trabisnikof posted:just fire in all directions at once to keep the forces balanced smart!
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DancingShade posted:Watch it actually be downsizing from a dozen agile platforms to 2-3 fat whales. Only 1 seaworthy at any given time. Rule Britannia. Sounds like the reason is so they can use US nukes. Really our vassals shouldn't have nukes, when you think about it.
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