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whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
Yeah I don’t get locking people into specific daily types ahead of time. Being able to pick and choose each day was one of the best parts of the original system.

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Pryce
May 21, 2011

Meeko posted:

you get 65 acclaim a day from dailies, 770 a week from weeklies, 1250 per 3 months from 'special,' so 5446~ ish acclaim per month to spend?

it's pretty good.

What's the 0/1300 cap on the top right for? Is that a weekly, monthly, or seasonal cap?

Meeko
Sep 15, 2017

That's right! I'm the counting sheep, Meeko. And I'm a proper sheep youkai!

Pryce posted:

What's the 0/1300 cap on the top right for? Is that a weekly, monthly, or seasonal cap?

total cap. Can't have beyond that much held at a time.

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.
Yeah, once you reach the cap you need to spend some to claim more.

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
Looks like the acclaim cap and removal of PvP/WvW potions is to keep folks from sniping new expac rewards without engaging in new content or actually playing post release. Probably a good change overall.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:
Hmm, I actually like that you're discouraged from hoarding wizardbux.

Just add a few more daily options so you don't have to do exactly the 4 you're given, and this system will be pretty solid.

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
Aren’t you capped at 3 of the 4 anyway?

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

Zojja sounds very tired

Meskhenet
Apr 26, 2010

You got the big reward after 3, but still got little rewards for everyone you did.

So there were people obviously doing 12 a day.

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.

whydirt posted:

Aren’t you capped at 3 of the 4 anyway?

I believe (could be wrong, haven’t actually used the Wizard’s Vault without dev cheat commands in a while) that you can complete and get rewards for all 4, you just only need 3 for the big daily reward.

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


whydirt posted:

Aren’t you capped at 3 of the 4 anyway?

One of them is logging in so you get your five wizard bucks for free anyways.

It'll be interesting to see how the economy adjusts because some of the prices seem out of whack. 6 acclaim = 1 gold but 40 = a tier 5 trophy bag, for instance. And mystic clovers for 60 seems way overpriced compared to buying 2 coins and a couple ecto if you already have shards and obsidian. Idk, man :shrug:

boho
Oct 4, 2011

on fire and loving it

Guest2553 posted:

One of them is logging in so you get your five wizard bucks for free anyways.

It'll be interesting to see how the economy adjusts because some of the prices seem out of whack. 6 acclaim = 1 gold but 40 = a tier 5 trophy bag, for instance. And mystic clovers for 60 seems way overpriced compared to buying 2 coins and a couple ecto if you already have shards and obsidian. Idk, man :shrug:

Some are limited per cycle (quarter?) and are cheap, some are unlimited but expensive.

Syenite
Jun 21, 2011
Grimey Drawer
HATE that they decided that locking people into specific modes and giving them Exactly Three Options was better than what they had. I just cannot fathom it.

At least Zojja's back.

E: ALSO gently caress them deciding to remove a poo poo ton of unique rune effects.

Syenite fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Aug 22, 2023

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

I have no idea what's going on with my equipment right now so I'm just ignoring it lol

El Fideo
Jun 10, 2016

I trusted a rhino and deserve all that came to me


I figure that by the time I work my way through Baldur's Gate 3, this will be settled down a bit.

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.


Meowywitch posted:

I have no idea what's going on with my equipment right now so I'm just ignoring it lol

:same:

I'm eagerly awaiting the theorycrafters to tell me what to do, but I think I saw an energy replenish one I may use on my jumpman Vindicator for now.

Hey actually, are there more relics than what's in the free boxes currently? Like crafting?

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/135419-game-update-notes-august-22-2023/#comment-1968833
Small Patch?

boho
Oct 4, 2011

on fire and loving it

El Fideo posted:

I figure that by the time I work my way through Baldur's Gate 3, this will be settled down a bit.

It’s honestly quite settled now, people just hate change. I expect none of this to be mentioned again after a week.

Humerus posted:

I'm eagerly awaiting the theorycrafters to tell me what to do, but I think I saw an energy replenish one I may use on my jumpman Vindicator for now.

I just used a Stamina Sigil for a full recharge after every kill - seems to be more reliable than Vigor or any other source.

Thankfully I can do Greatsword Herald now and forget Vindicator ever existed.

boho fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Aug 23, 2023

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
Nah the locking in of daily quests by game mode legit sucks and I expect lots of complaints until it’s modified/reverted somehow

boho
Oct 4, 2011

on fire and loving it
So just change your options. It'll reflect in the next set of dailies.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
But why does it have to lock at all? or require so many inputs to accept the rewards? when before you had the choice of 4 different ones per game mode and automatic rewards and 1g more on completion.

boho
Oct 4, 2011

on fire and loving it

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

But why does it have to lock at all? or require so many inputs to accept the rewards? when before you had the choice of 4 different ones per game mode and automatic rewards and 1g more on completion.

As I understand it, the combination of what you pick determines the depth or involvement of each category, with the aim that everyone's dailies take the same amount of time. So choosing PVE + WvW + PVP gives quests that require dabbling in every mode for 20 minutes each while just picking WvW gives you objectives that take about an hour of only WvW. Takes an hour to do dailies in both cases.

It's more interesting than the old system, that's for sure.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
I'm looking at relic after relic of "on elite skill use (30 second cooldown) and it's just like... every elite skill on a elementalist is over a minute to nearly 3 minutes and a guardian can just do it on cooldown, why do they not scale based on the elite cooldown instead of always favoring a quick throw-away ult?

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



boho posted:

As I understand it, the combination of what you pick determines the depth or involvement of each category, with the aim that everyone's dailies take the same amount of time. So choosing PVE + WvW + PVP gives quests that require dabbling in every mode for 20 minutes each while just picking WvW gives you objectives that take about an hour of only WvW. Takes an hour to do dailies in both cases.

It's more interesting than the old system, that's for sure.

Yeah but why can't they just give me all the options from all 3 and say "sorry only the first 3 actually gives currency"

Like I've always done the easier WvW ones like shrine captures or killing dolyaks and that was a good way to get me into the mode to goof around or follow a tag for a little while, but right now selecting WvW takes slots away from typically much easier PvE dailies. So now I'll probably spend less time in WvW for it (and also lol at deleting a source of those lovely lockboxes, way to make them somehow even worse.)

The rewards are good but the dailies stuff is way less interesting and flexible

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

It's really cool how many people are playing Guild Wars right now

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


The new daily system needs some tuning but the meat of it is really good.

Super happy that Weapon master training is instant and account wide. Just have to talk to an NPC in the first new zone.

As I suspected, Necro pistol/torch is quite fun. Gonna spend some time crafting a brand new build.

Hakarne
Jul 23, 2007
Vivo en el autobús!


Syenite posted:

E: ALSO gently caress them deciding to remove a poo poo ton of unique rune effects.

El Fideo posted:

I figure that by the time I work my way through Baldur's Gate 3, this will be settled down a bit.

That's basically where I'm at with it. My favorite thing about GW2 was being able to log in after being away for a while and not have all my equipment/builds completely obsoleted. And today I logged in to see the expansion and found they nuked a bunch of my builds by straight-up deleting the rune effects that they were built around lol. I mean it's not the end of the world but it was definitely not a good first impression. I didn't feel like thinking about it so I'm just going to keep going with BG3 for now.

I also have a few living world episodes to knock out before I start on the expansion and unlock the new builds. Can you just TP friend and talk to an NPC to unlock the new weapons?

Edit: BTW I tried TP friend and it doesn't work, you have to progress through the mission or he won't talk to you.

Hakarne fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Aug 23, 2023

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

Omg the little drones Scrapper has are so cuuuuteeeeee

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

Oh hell yea

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CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

I read the complaining on reddit earlier so I was prepared but it really doesn't seen that bad? lots of cool rewards in the new daily system and you can choose to skip 2 of the weeklies thank loving god, there is no way im doing that WvW jumping puzzle at the start of a new release vs BG and MAG

just add 1 or 2 more daily options and itll be great

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

I'm looking at relic after relic of "on elite skill use (30 second cooldown) and it's just like... every elite skill on a elementalist is over a minute to nearly 3 minutes and a guardian can just do it on cooldown, why do they not scale based on the elite cooldown instead of always favoring a quick throw-away ult?

this feels like an issue though. I mean its great for my Willbender, arty strike every 30 seconds, but its juts going to lock out so many elite skills or relics

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
It might end up be the equivalent, but I liked just getting a bouncy chest instead of 5 Whatzits points for _needlessly complex daily system No. 552

A definite step back in terms of actual game design in addition to the nonsense of having to choose between daily things in advance.

boho
Oct 4, 2011

on fire and loving it

CODChimera posted:

I read the complaining on reddit earlier so I was prepared but it really doesn't seen that bad?

It's cool and good, but let's be real: any kind of change to a decade-old system was going to piss everybody off simply because old thing good, new thing bad.

That's not to say it's flawless - it needs one more daily and the quests just need to auto-complete and immediately grant you space dollars - but it's leaps and bounds beyond the trainwreck of the Achievement interface and snooze-tier rewards. It's a very ArenaNet take on battle passes, which, like it or not, are fantastic at getting people to log in and - more importantly - stick around for at least a little bit.

As for daily quests I'd personally like to see a system where you get to choose how many of each category you get each day, not "configure now and we're pretty sure it'll work tomorrow maybe." Choices would be blind like drawing cards from a deck, and the decision need not be made immediately. That way I can hop in WvW and see if it's lively enough to warrant pulling from the WvW deck, or check my blood pressure and decide if I should pull sPvP or not.

boho fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Aug 23, 2023

Hakarne
Jul 23, 2007
Vivo en el autobús!


Yeah the daily system was like my favorite thing and it got me to jump between PvE and WvW depending on the objectives for the day. I don't like this new system, it's already locked the last two objectives to WvW for the day and they aren't ones I'd normally choose/want to do. I do like that they added some new ones (e.g. escort a supply caravan to its destination) but I would've liked them under the old system where I had more choices. :(

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

Relics are, kind of bad

TeaJay
Oct 9, 2012


I still haven't actually bought the xpac (despite Wizard's tower) but I'll be keeping my eye on how much actual content there is for me. The daily change at least sounds somewhat annoying, the best part of it was that there were so many options to choose from.

TeaJay fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Aug 23, 2023

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
I didn't literally get delivered a legendary relic from my 7/7 legendary runes upon login, so yeah, relics BAD!!!!

Mr. Neutron
Sep 15, 2012

~I'M THE BEST~
Yeah so far the worst thing about the vault dailies is that you can no longer pick and choose. You get three assigned to you, tough luck if you don't like them. I hope the WvW ones continue to be somewhat rational instead of assault a keep/SMC type of thing...

Ineptitude
Mar 2, 2010

Heed my words and become a master of the Heart (of Thorns).
I took a break from GW2 and the game went from "no expansion announced" to "new expansion released" in that period, welp.

Since i have literally been living under a rock the last 1,5 years and am out of the loop but thinking of picking the game back up i was hoping i could get some help with these:


When last i played rifle mechanist was the bees knees in solo pve. When looking at metabattle now this spec is rated 3/5. Did it get nerfed big time? It was a load of fun to play, but a lot of that fun came from it being powerful.


It looks like the expansion added legendary armor that you can get from solo pve. How "solo" is this? Actually solo solo, or you need a raid group but its in open world and not in instances?
What kind of time investment are we talking? Full cap of relevant resource weekly for a year?

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
Open world legendary armor isn’t out yet, it’ll be coming next year as one of the mini-releases each quarter

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tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
I've been hoarding mats for the last month. Are there any notable mat sinks /crafting recipes that I should be selling into? Or should I just crack on with my old crafting goals (Warbringer)

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