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Cities is ostensibly an army composed of all the mixed up descendants of the survivors of the Kirbypocalyose, and it feels weird they want to you play single-species armies. Synergies and combined-arms play is also cooler than "did you pick the nice new human models? Good, now your army is playable. No? Well, try again." It's a little openly mercenary, and a little like they realized they made a good Cities army already, but they hosed up and put "Skaven" on the cover.
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JBP posted:I don't understand what you mean by separation of the races? It seems cool to me. I think they mean that Cities units have traditionally been segregated by species, and continue to be - you have Elf Orders for Elf heroes that apply to Elf units, and Human Orders for Human heroes that apply to Human units, etc.
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JBP posted:I don't understand what you mean by separation of the races? It seems cool to me. Cities of Sigmar – Orders Help Mortals Stand Fast Against Gods and Daemons posted:There are two universal orders, three orders that apply exclusively to HUMAN units, and two orders each for AELF and DUARDIN units, opening up a host of tactical options for armies using these troops. The orders are broken up by what race the unit is, which seems counter to the Cities of Sigmar aesthetic of all the different races living and working together.
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In some ways yeah, but I think it gives them a little more design space to play around in. Like Return Fire would be more powerful if elves could use it because of their stronger shooting.
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Honestly seems like it might be an improvement from the weird subfaction-locked synergies of the old tome.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:In some ways yeah, but I think it gives them a little more design space to play around in. Like Return Fire would be more powerful if elves could use it because of their stronger shooting. What elf shooting - all they have is darkshards. Same applies to dorfs since irondrakes are kinda bad now Der Waffle Mous posted:Honestly seems like it might be an improvement from the weird subfaction-locked synergies of the old tome. Or they could have just dumped subfactions and make all the same rules and traits apply to everyone so I can "form shieldwall" with steelhelms or "suppressing fire" with darkshards. Would that be strong - probably. Also since we are walling of races we are kinda in a situation where elfs have 3 playable units, dorfs have 2 and humans have like 5-6 and neither of those factions synergize with one another
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They should of committed with CoS and made the new sculpts contain a variety of fantasy races
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Vagabong posted:They should of committed with CoS and made the new sculpts contain a variety of fantasy races This would’ve been cool. Very discworld, the odd elf or dwarf Steelhelm mixed in with the humans, or a dwarf fusilier taking measurements. It’s wild that the Cogsmith, whose background is all about working with artillery, has no synergy or benefit to working with the cannon, because of this race-locked approach.
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Aug 17, 2023 13:41
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Covermeinsunshine posted:What elf shooting - all they have is darkshards. Same applies to dorfs since irondrakes are kinda bad now Right, forgot about the culling last month
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CoS they kind of wrote themselves in a corner. There are multiple all elf and all dwarf factions but no all human faction, so they want to let people have an all human army. At the same time a lot of people like CoS for the multiracial aspect of it so they want to provide ways to have those other races but keep them distinct. I think having mixed race units would be cool but I can see why it would also annoy some people so whatever they do someone won't like it.
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they did also drop the coalition so no more running sylvaneth, sce, lumineth or ko as part of the cities instead of allies. So yeah as someone who loves soup this book is no go for me
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I really hope that new AoS Warhammer+ model isn't yet another Vampire Lord. They're like the AoS version of Primaris Lieutenants at this point.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/08/17/get-to-know-tahlia-vedra-the-blazing-heart-of-the-dawnbringer-crusades/ More lore, this time about Tahlia Vedra and her companion, and a smidgen of rules. As a treat.
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Not a fan of ridden monsters having thrones instead of saddles, but it's a nice model otherwise
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Covermeinsunshine posted:they did also drop the coalition so no more running sylvaneth, sce, lumineth or ko as part of the cities instead of allies. So yeah as someone who loves soup this book is no go for me
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They don't even have stormkeeps anymore huh?
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smug jeebus posted:Not a fan of ridden monsters having thrones instead of saddles, but it's a nice model otherwise Hey man, gotta make that Manticore tail even more 'wait, how does that actually work?...'
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neaden posted:CoS they kind of wrote themselves in a corner. There are multiple all elf and all dwarf factions but no all human faction, so they want to let people have an all human army. At the same time a lot of people like CoS for the multiracial aspect of it so they want to provide ways to have those other races but keep them distinct. I think having mixed race units would be cool but I can see why it would also annoy some people so whatever they do someone won't like it. Especially given how limited some of the other races' factions are. Fyreslayers almost feel like half an army at this point, and their Battletome, IMO, is feeling its age in an era of SBGL and Seraphon, especially given the current season as well. CoS is a cool concept, I'm not making GBS threads on anything; the notion of a "United Peoples" faction as a brief, flickering of light against the darkness that Chaos has let run rampant is compelling, but I agree that it still feels segregated amongst the races. Sounds like they're trying to please everyone, and I agree that they should have just souped the lot, and mixed races in all the ranks. It would visually show that unity of peoples gathering to defend what little civilization is left.
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Robert Facepalmer posted:Hey man, gotta make that Manticore tail even more 'wait, how does that actually work?...' Very poorly, that's why she has a foot thick piece of wood at her back.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:They don't even have stormkeeps anymore huh? Not in cos no. They are still in sce book and they blow donkey but right now I can imagine allying in gyrocopter because they are nothing but they are 80 points of fast nothing and I can score lovely battle tactics of their back (but this is mostly copeium) Feeple posted:Especially given how limited some of the other races' factions are. Fyreslayers almost feel like half an army at this point, and their Battletome, IMO, is feeling its age in an era of SBGL and Seraphon, especially given the current season as well. CoS is a cool concept, I'm not making GBS threads on anything; the notion of a "United Peoples" faction as a brief, flickering of light against the darkness that Chaos has let run rampant is compelling, but I agree that it still feels segregated amongst the races. Its kinda weird as you read aos rpg game that is written largly with 2ed fluff in mind and then 3rd edition book comes and kinda doeas nothing with the idea of "different apes together strong"
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/08/18/cities-of-sigmar-keep-the-rabble-in-line-with-a-rogues-gallery-of-reliable-heroes More CoS rules, this time for the various heroes you can use in your command retinue.
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Please god bring USRs to AoS, if I have to read "this unit has silly strong, whilst it has silly strong it has <insert incredibly common game effect here>" one more time I'm going to eat my deepkin battletome without ketchup
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https://www.warhammer-community.com...guild-cavaliers I'm on a horse.  Also that's an interesting design choice on how to assemble a horse.
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com...guild-cavaliers Wow, they're making it really hard to resist...
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com...guild-cavaliers I like it better than a vertical split, looks like the model will cover the join area with armor and whatnot making it easier to prep. Edit: Disregard, I didn't click through and see that the horse is indeed still split vertically.
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It looks like a nice solution for allowing unique rider poses while bring able to mix and match rider and horse
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/08/20/sunday-preview-carve-out-a-new-realm-for-humanity-with-the-cities-of-sigmar/ Cities of Sigmar Army set goes up for pre-order next weekend, as well as the new Seraphon Vanguard.
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Hello, putting together some Lumineth but I haven't played AoS in a few years. Is there a strong reason I shouldn't build the pike and bowmen as reinforced units? E: Thanks Rattus! smug jeebus fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Aug 20, 2023 |
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Not really! You should be fine! The bowmen especially are kind of the key unit of making everyone else hate you, though somewhat less so now.
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/08/20/sunday-preview-carve-out-a-new-realm-for-humanity-with-the-cities-of-sigmar/ Finally!
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/08/21/a-hulking-new-orruk-boss-leads-the-charge-into-the-nova-open-previews/ Someone did an oopsie and pressed the post button too early on everyone except WarCom.  Also, NOVA Open reveal stream on the 30th. 
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I like everything on that Ork except the mask. The horn-beard is a big swing and miss for me…
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It's reminiscent of the classic Chaos Terminator tusks if I don't look too closely at the mask so I suppose it works for me. I'm more a night goblins and trolls man though.
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"There will be a reckoning... Excelcis... is yours."
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:It's reminiscent of the classic Chaos Terminator tusks if I don't look too closely at the mask so I suppose it works for me. I'm more a night goblins and trolls man though. It looks like the old Black Orc masks because that’s what Ironjawz are.
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New Realms of Ruin trailer, now with ghosts  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5qzSjk8CYw
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So my bet on Blades of Khorne as 4th faction
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Covermeinsunshine posted:So my bet on Blades of Khorne as 4th faction I'm hoping for Skaven but I could see blades or just generic Slaves to Darkness easily enough. I'll be down for almost whatever as long as they hit each of the big four once before doubling up.
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There was a leaked image of an Ogroid Thaumaturge so I am betting Tzeentch.
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MonsterEnvy posted:There was a leaked image of an Ogroid Thaumaturge so I am betting Tzeentch. Maybe it's an angroid
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