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Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.
We have a slip lead we use with Freja, but it's a big chunky line and she has a huge muscular neck, she hardly notices it even on the rare times she goes nuts on the lead, apparently the smaller, thinner lines are more uncomfortable which makes sense I guess.

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alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

We have Pochi in "day training" that is a half day where she goes to the place we do our training (we also go once a week with her to a separate training class). The trainer is a behaviorist and is working with her on some fears (loud noises, cars). She is an expert and is really helping her confidence a lot - we can already see the difference. We had worked with someone already at home and not had much luck.

Her obedience, etc. we work with her on at training but I am happy to pay an expert in canine behavior to work with her on her other stuff. She is really really comfortable at the training facility since we have been taking her there (with us, for classes) since only a few weeks after she got to us.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


TooMuchAbstraction posted:

For what it's worth, I'm not convinced that there's significant value in board-and-train. Half of the point of training is teaching you how to tell the dog what you want, and how to avoid confusing them. The dog might come back from training with new knowledge of how they're supposed to act, but if you don't play into that training properly, it's not going to do much good.

Plus, it's easier for the dog to learn if they're in a familiar and comfortable environment, with someone they know and trust. Or equivalently, it's hard for them to learn when they've been separated from family and are in a new environment surrounded by unfamiliar dogs.
I've thought about that and also that I would, ya know, miss my dog. I'm not married to the idea, just considering options.

Someone who would come to my house a few times a week to work with him and spend some of that time working with me might be a better solution. I really like the trainer I've been to at Petsmart, but Pickwick gets so excited in that environment it's hard for me to focus on what the trainer is saying because I'm trying so hard to manage the dog. He's actually fairly good at sit/stay/down kind of stuff and is a quick learner, the main problems I think I need professional help with are basically his excitability. On walks it's an issue when barks at other dogs (which again I am not sure if some of that is aggression or just excitement) and then at home he just get soooooo excited when anyone comes to my house. In both those situations I get too wrapped up in being an apologetic and embarrassed human to have the bandwidth to also work on my dog's undesirable behavior in the moment.

I know he's a 1yr old golden retriever and I'm definitely learning that golden retriever energy is real. I'm sure some of this will naturally mellow with age, but I would sure like for walks to not be an anxious and stressful time for me.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
woke up a little while ago, terrified because Gabriel was under my bed/futon whining
I figured he might be injured or trapped or something and gently pulled the frame away from the wall, felt around, came up with

a large raw potato :confused:

he was fine, he was just super agitated about maybe somebody was going to steal his loving potato

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

I can’t believe you took his potato!

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
This is a sufficiently old story that I suspect there's at least some folks here that have not been exposed to it: I Has a Sweet Potato.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Sweet potatoes I can understand because, y'know, the sweet part, I've never seen a dog act so goddamn happy with getting poo poo like a raw potato, or celery, or lettuce

I mean yeah dogs are omnivores sure ok, but wtf
E: I feel it is important to note that he had not done more than gently mouth it, he hadn't even broken the skin

Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Aug 24, 2023

Volcano
Apr 10, 2008


Flesh Forge posted:

Sweet potatoes I can understand because, y'know, the sweet part, I've never seen a dog act so goddamn happy with getting poo poo like a raw potato, or celery, or lettuce

I mean yeah dogs are omnivores sure ok, but wtf
E: I feel it is important to note that he had not done more than gently mouth it, he hadn't even broken the skin

Ours loves carrots. Especially frozen ones. He gets so excited he won't even eat it at first, just dances around it.

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


Dog:



Dog does not like having his claws clipped, in fact he hates it. I don't think it stems from a particular bad experience - we've never cut them too short - I think he just doesn't like the feeling since it requires a bit of effort to get through big claws. We can get clippers near him, we can even get them into position to clip and sometimes we can clip one claw, however after that he's on high alert and won't let us get near. At this point he shows signs that he's a bit scared. Whilst I don't think their length is a major problem I do see them occasionally get ragged because they catch on things and ultimately we do need to be able to clip them when required.

Food is no good, he doesn't give a poo poo and never has. He likes treats, but they'll never convince him of anything regardless of what we use - whether that's not to be scared or to overlook something, or to come back to us or come indoors when we need him to. We've also tried generally trying to get him accustomed to the clippers being around, hence the ability to get them into position - but as soon as he gets one claw clipped it all goes out the window. I've also seen the grinders one can use but I'm confident the noise and feeling of those would be no better.

What else can we do?

Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.
We've given up with the grinders and moved to clippers because they just take too long.

She's not too bad with either but it takes both of us as one of us needs to distract her typically, but yeah. The the grinders aren't that loud, but they're not that great either imo

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

Sir Sidney Poitier posted:

What else can we do?

I tried clipping Little Bear's nails when I first got him. It was traumatic for both of us so now I just spend the $10-15 for PetSmart grooming to do it. :shrug:

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


Dango Bango posted:

I tried clipping Little Bear's nails when I first got him. It was traumatic for both of us so now I just spend the $10-15 for PetSmart grooming to do it. :shrug:

FYI my dog's name is Bear. Not so little though. Coincidence? YOU DECIDE

Edit: Also, whilst the daycare he goes to sometimes can do nails, I don't want him to start associating the place with things that he's scared of. He likes going and it's helpful for us to know there's a place he can socialise and also stay overnight where he's happy, don't want to change that.

Sir Sidney Poitier fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Aug 24, 2023

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
I tried a grinder but it was too loud and Brisket flipped out when he was a few months old.
So now I let the vet/groomer do it.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
For what it's worth, Pavlov has never gotten his nails trimmed. They get naturally worn down from walking. He gets 2-3 miles of walks per day.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


Depending on how much you need to take off and how snuggly he gets, you could try a nail file. It’d still require some force, so maybe it won’t be any different from the clippers, but its at least a different sensation. it’s not too expensive to try, at any rate.

cailleask
May 6, 2007





Take it way slower with the clippers. Treat just for letting you hold a paw. Treat for letting you hold a paw while holding the clippers. Treat for letting you rub the clippers against a nail. When you’re cutting, treat for every cut. These are probably all separate multiple sessions with a bunch of repetition.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Worked hard on Heel and loose leash walking with Pickwick today on a walk and he did really well! Until he got tired of it after about 15 minutes. At that point, should I just continue the walk letting him lead like he usually does or should I really stick to it the whole walk?

Also talked to a really nice dog behavior person today who is too busy (as all the other local ones seem to be) to work with him on his reactivity right now, but she said what I am doing-try to avoid letting the situation happen in the first place, keep distance and try to keep him at a distance where he can observe but stay calm-is the best thing to do right now, so that was good to hear at least.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
My dog Savannah (2.5, female, spayed) and I are taking care of her littermate Harry (also 2.5 of course, male, neutered)







They are friends and have had playdates about once every 1-3 months since they went home as 9 week old puppies. Overall we're having fun, but man, Harry is from a very quiet street in a gated community whereas I live on a busy street up against a sidewalk. Poor Harry is exhausted from barking at all the potential threads and trying to keep us safe!

Savannah doesn't understand why Harry is yelling at all her friends outside, but she's a good sister so she's helping him out with some good barks of her own.

Overnight we had some thunder storms which are extremely rare for the area, and I was very proud of them both for seeming pretty unfazed by it.

My spoiled (can a dog really be spoiled?) little lady is doing her best to share her space but still does not like it when Harry gives or receives too much affection from us. No growls or barks or anything, but she'll come insert herself between Harry and our hands to steal the pets.

Anyway, I don't think I'm even really looking for help or advice. Mostly just sharing cute pics and I guess if anyone knows any potential pitfalls I should be aware of when dogsitting, that's cool too

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
https://i.imgur.com/8DNx0cJ.gifv

Your sneeze has disturbed the peace. The penalty... is death!

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!

"Hello, Danny... Come and play with us... Come and play with us, Danny... forever... and ever... and ever..."

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

WhiteHowler posted:

"Hello, Danny... Come and play with us... Come and play with us, Danny... forever... and ever... and ever..."

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


GoGoGadgetChris posted:

https://i.imgur.com/8DNx0cJ.gifv

Your sneeze has disturbed the peace. The penalty... is death!

I recognize that hedgehog toy!

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Little Campion is now four months old and has been making really good progress on his house training, but today he's had six accidents, no matter how frequently I take him out. I'm not sure what's happened to cause this backsliding, or if it could possibly mean he's sick or something.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Indoor peeing is self reinforcing, once it happens a few times and the scent is there it gets harder to fix. Get some enzymatic cleaning poo poo ASAP and clean all the spots he peed as thoroughly as you can, and meanwhile watch him like a hawk, if you notice him sniffing at all, take him out. Eating or drinking any amount, take him out. Just woke up from a nap, take him out. Getting ready for bed, take him out. Don't go back in until he pees at least a little bit (dogs don't normally empty their bladders completely so this should be every time)

Have a party whenever he does pee outside, lots of praise and maybe some treats, nothing too smelly that he might realize you have before he pees.

E: I think it's fairly common for dogs to backslide on house training a little bit when they reach adolescence, which you may be getting into at 4 months (loosely accepted as being 6 months to 2 years)

Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Aug 27, 2023

neurotech
Apr 22, 2004

Deep in my dreams and I still hear her callin'
If you're alone, I'll come home.

We’ve had our puppy in a large crate (too large) for a few weeks and we’ve kept a puppy pad in there so she can toilet over night. I’ve been reading up on crate training and supposedly this is a bad practice? From what I’ve read, you’re meant to have them in a crate that’s small, but large enough so they can turn around and sit up/lie down etc. My issue is that she can’t last the night without toileting, and ends up peeing/pooing in her bed sometimes.

We got a new crate today that’s much smaller and appropriately sized, but I’m worried she’s gonna pee/poo in her bed tonight.

Everything I’ve read says you need to listen out for the puppy crying in the middle of the night, then quickly get up and put them outside. Is that my only option (until she’s old enough to hold it all night)?

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


This is potty training, yep.

It really doesn't take that long, and using an appropriate sized crate is the right first step.

I'm trying to remember, but Jarvis started sleeping through the night in his puppy crate after just a couple of weeks.

neurotech
Apr 22, 2004

Deep in my dreams and I still hear her callin'
If you're alone, I'll come home.

AlexDeGruven posted:

This is potty training, yep.

It really doesn't take that long, and using an appropriate sized crate is the right first step.

I'm trying to remember, but Jarvis started sleeping through the night in his puppy crate after just a couple of weeks.

My problem is that I don't hear her crying (I'm not even sure if she does cry at all during the night)...

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


neurotech posted:

My problem is that I don't hear her crying (I'm not even sure if she does cry at all during the night)...

The other thing you can do, if you know she's going in the crate, is set an alarm for around that time and take her out.

Also, what was helpful for us was crating Jarvis at a certain time, including taking him potty, but well before our bedtime. Then I would get him up before we went to bed, usually a couple of hours after, and take him out again. He quickly took to that and started making it through the night easily.

neurotech
Apr 22, 2004

Deep in my dreams and I still hear her callin'
If you're alone, I'll come home.

AlexDeGruven posted:

The other thing you can do, if you know she's going in the crate, is set an alarm for around that time and take her out.

Also, what was helpful for us was crating Jarvis at a certain time, including taking him potty, but well before our bedtime. Then I would get him up before we went to bed, usually a couple of hours after, and take him out again. He quickly took to that and started making it through the night easily.

I don't know the time that she goes, unfortunately. I'd need to get some kind of night vision webcam setup or something to be sure. When you say "Then I would get him up before we went to bed, usually a couple of hours after," do you mean you would wake him up at your bed time, take him out to toilet, then do the same a few hours later?

Volcano
Apr 10, 2008


neurotech posted:

I don't know the time that she goes, unfortunately. I'd need to get some kind of night vision webcam setup or something to be sure. When you say "Then I would get him up before we went to bed, usually a couple of hours after," do you mean you would wake him up at your bed time, take him out to toilet, then do the same a few hours later?

I just set alarms at intervals throughout the night and then whenever they went off, I would take the puppy outside, give him the opportunity to pee and then praise him if he did. It was definitely rough on the sleep schedule but I do think it helped in getting him potty trained relatively quickly.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


neurotech posted:

I don't know the time that she goes, unfortunately. I'd need to get some kind of night vision webcam setup or something to be sure. When you say "Then I would get him up before we went to bed, usually a couple of hours after," do you mean you would wake him up at your bed time, take him out to toilet, then do the same a few hours later?

Just the one time.

So say 9pm, potty and then crate with cover.

Sit and watch TV, normal nighttime wind-down.

11pm wake him up, take him out to potty, then crate.

After just a few cycles of that he was sleeping through the night in his crate with no accidents.

But even then, this was after the first few weeks of constant getting up in the middle of the night.

And let me be frank with you: raising a puppy, for at least the first few weeks, is as bad and sometimes harder than a human baby. It takes a lot of effort on your part. If you don't know what time she's going, then set yourself an alarm and take her out every couple of hours. It's a lot of work at the beginning and you need to be willing to be proactive, or she'll never get it satisfactorily. For the first few weeks we had Jarvis, I did not sleep much. But it gets better.

neurotech
Apr 22, 2004

Deep in my dreams and I still hear her callin'
If you're alone, I'll come home.

Volcano posted:

I just set alarms at intervals throughout the night and then whenever they went off, I would take the puppy outside, give him the opportunity to pee and then praise him if he did. It was definitely rough on the sleep schedule but I do think it helped in getting him potty trained relatively quickly.

Yep, that makes sense. My wife gets up at 6AM, so I'll try to head to bed about 10PM, then set an alarm for 2AM, and cross my fingers that that will do the trick. It's 9:30PM~ here at the time of this post - I'll report back in the morning!

neurotech
Apr 22, 2004

Deep in my dreams and I still hear her callin'
If you're alone, I'll come home.

AlexDeGruven posted:

Just the one time.

So say 9pm, potty and then crate with cover.

Sit and watch TV, normal nighttime wind-down.

11pm wake him up, take him out to potty, then crate.

After just a few cycles of that he was sleeping through the night in his crate with no accidents.

But even then, this was after the first few weeks of constant getting up in the middle of the night.

And let me be frank with you: raising a puppy, for at least the first few weeks, is as bad and sometimes harder than a human baby. It takes a lot of effort on your part. If you don't know what time she's going, then set yourself an alarm and take her out every couple of hours. It's a lot of work at the beginning and you need to be willing to be proactive, or she'll never get it satisfactorily. For the first few weeks we had Jarvis, I did not sleep much. But it gets better.

Thank you, it's gonna be a rough patch but it'll be worth it once she's internalised it all.

cumpantry
Dec 18, 2020

i love owning puppy

Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.
We did every 2 hours with Freja roughly for the first 3-4 weeks but after awhile, she just started barking to let us know she needed to go, which would wake us up obviously if it wasn't to the alarms to set, after a few days of her barking to get our attention we stopped setting alarms at all and just relied on her waking us with barking and it's worked ever since.

She was sleeping through from 10/12pm to around 5.30, then 6.30 and now she sleeps through till about 7.30.

The last few nights we've not taken her down at midnight, and she's held it from about 9pm till 7am or so but we try to not make a habit of that.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Flesh Forge posted:

Indoor peeing is self reinforcing, once it happens a few times and the scent is there it gets harder to fix. Get some enzymatic cleaning poo poo ASAP and clean all the spots he peed as thoroughly as you can, and meanwhile watch him like a hawk, if you notice him sniffing at all, take him out. Eating or drinking any amount, take him out. Just woke up from a nap, take him out. Getting ready for bed, take him out. Don't go back in until he pees at least a little bit (dogs don't normally empty their bladders completely so this should be every time)

Have a party whenever he does pee outside, lots of praise and maybe some treats, nothing too smelly that he might realize you have before he pees.

E: I think it's fairly common for dogs to backslide on house training a little bit when they reach adolescence, which you may be getting into at 4 months (loosely accepted as being 6 months to 2 years)

Mysteriously, the next day he was back to being a perfect angel for no apparent reason.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Welcome to having a puppy.

GateOfD
Jan 31, 2023

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 6 days!)

I need to get around to getting a small doggie toothbrush for my yorkie

neurotech
Apr 22, 2004

Deep in my dreams and I still hear her callin'
If you're alone, I'll come home.

neurotech posted:

Yep, that makes sense. My wife gets up at 6AM, so I'll try to head to bed about 10PM, then set an alarm for 2AM, and cross my fingers that that will do the trick. It's 9:30PM~ here at the time of this post - I'll report back in the morning!

Success. I got up about 2:30AM and puppy almost immediately pooed & peed outside, and then my wife was up at 6 and there was no mess in the crate. Hopefully after a few weeks of this she'll be good to hold it over night.

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Clowner
Dec 13, 2006

Further in

neurotech posted:

We’ve had our puppy in a large crate (too large) for a few weeks and we’ve kept a puppy pad in there so she can toilet over night. I’ve been reading up on crate training and supposedly this is a bad practice? From what I’ve read, you’re meant to have them in a crate that’s small, but large enough so they can turn around and sit up/lie down etc. My issue is that she can’t last the night without toileting, and ends up peeing/pooing in her bed sometimes.

We got a new crate today that’s much smaller and appropriately sized, but I’m worried she’s gonna pee/poo in her bed tonight.

Everything I’ve read says you need to listen out for the puppy crying in the middle of the night, then quickly get up and put them outside. Is that my only option (until she’s old enough to hold it all night)?

We did that (pads in the crate) with our girl too and I don't think it's the end of the world. At first, there'd be pee and poop on the pad every morning, then before too long there would only be pee, then there'd just be shreds and no sign of accidents in there. Once she was tearing them apart instead of going to the bathroom on them, we stopped putting them in. The crate is still "too large" for her since it's sized for an adult, but she hasn't eliminated in there in about three months (she's 5.5 months right now, got her at almost 2 months) and I don't worry about that anymore. That said, if she needs to go, she's not shy about letting us know - people aren't joking when they say corgis have a piercing bark and I'm a light sleeper. I guess YMMV on that.

The more key part is just lots of rewards when she goes outside, and no reaction if she eliminates inside.

We have left her alone recently in the living room for up to five hours with no accidents a few times now, which I think is pretty good for her age. Nobody likes leaving their puppy but it feels much better to give them the run of (part) of the house instead of the crate.

Bottom line, pads may not be the very best tool for house training, but our puppy is doing very well anyway. Don't beat yourself up over it.

Clowner fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Aug 29, 2023

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