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cursedshitbox posted:Yeaaaaah 
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The Mitsubishi Mirage is the last new car you can get for under $20k. Car mortgages to be common place soon 
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Aug 22, 2023 15:04
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We've already got like 9 year loans, what's another 6 on it.
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Aug 22, 2023 15:08
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Applebees Appetizer posted:The Mitsubishi Mirage is the last new car you can get for under $20k. Was, it's dead now: https://www.autonews.com/cars-concepts/mitsubishi-drop-mirage-us There's also still some cheap small cars that exist, even though they're not under $20k anymore. Hyundai Venue, Kia Soul are both still under $22k. The best feeling vehicles in America are still full size pickup trucks, though.
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Aug 22, 2023 15:15
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Within the last 10 years or so there was a car being sold*** in Canada for like 9,999$ I'm thinking it was the Micra, or Hyundai Accent or something? ***Before taxes, options etc etc...
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Aug 22, 2023 18:03
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Imagine if Elio Motors wasn't vaporware
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Ambassadorofsodomy posted:Within the last 10 years or so there was a car being sold*** in Canada for like 9,999$ The Skoda Citygo and I assume the other VAG clones were under $10k including taxes a few years ago, but they killed off the ICE version. All the official pages have been scrubbed so the only reference I could easily fined is the UK price of £7,630 for the 3-door 1.0 60PS 5spd version.
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Ambassadorofsodomy posted:Within the last 10 years or so there was a car being sold*** in Canada for like 9,999$ https://www.nissan.ca/vehicles/discontinued/versa-note.html The Nissan Versa starts at $15K with a manual and $16K with a CVT.
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mobby_6kl posted:The Skoda Citygo and I assume the other VAG clones were under $10k including taxes a few years ago, but they killed off the ICE version. All the official pages have been scrubbed so the only reference I could easily fined is the UK price of £7,630 for the 3-door 1.0 60PS 5spd version. The cheapest eUP variant is 17k€ now. As much as a full optional Suzuki Swift.
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Twerk from Home posted:Was, it's dead now: https://www.autonews.com/cars-concepts/mitsubishi-drop-mirage-us The Kia Rio is still around for now right? My mother in law has one and it’s surprisingly okay for the price, certainly much nicer than a Mirage.
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dissss posted:The Kia Rio is still around for now right? At least here it starts the same as an up, 17k€. I would be surprised to see it at 10k$.
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Aug 22, 2023 19:46
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Isn't the Mirage an insanely unsafe vehicle as well? gently caress those things.
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Aug 22, 2023 21:03
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Isn't the Mirage an insanely unsafe vehicle as well? gently caress those things. https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/mitsubishi/space+star+%2f+mirage/8881
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Aug 23, 2023 10:08
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Kivi posted:No, just mediocre That's a decade old rating. Safety has moved forward in that time but the Mirage has not.
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Aug 23, 2023 10:28
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dissss posted:That's a decade old rating. Safety has moved forward in that time but the Mirage has not. Keep in mind that EuroNCAP rating since 2015 have been distorted by ADAS. A car able to let the passengers unscathed but without ADAS will get three stars at best.
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Aug 23, 2023 10:50
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I think the question is, is it better or worse than a 20-year old rusty Miata and Fit?
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I feel very safe in my Saab 900 without airbags or ABS brakes.
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SlowBloke posted:Keep in mind that EuroNCAP rating since 2015 have been distorted by ADAS. A car able to let the passengers unscathed but without ADAS will get three stars at best. It's heavily biased towards driver aids which means that some cars can get poo poo ratings for pedestrian safety but still come out with a good final result because they've got poo poo like cameras and lane assist. NCAP is no longer a marker of a safe car, just one loaded with gadgets. A Mirage is as solid as it always was but now gets penalised because it isn't loaded with computer bullshit and it's this bit people don't understand. Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Aug 23, 2023 |
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Aug 23, 2023 14:11
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What a terrible rewards system.
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There's no doubt that the Mirage is the least safe new car sold in the US market. It is consistently the car in the US with the highest death rate. It's also still dramatically safer than the 20 year old Camry that half of America drives. https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/latest-driver-death-rates-highlight-dangers-of-muscle-cars Death wise, the only cars near as dangerous as a Mirage are the Dodge Challenger, Hyundai Accent, and Chevy Spark. 
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Strong personal anecdotal feelings that lots of people die in Challengers for reasons not related to the car itself.
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Aug 23, 2023 15:55
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Full Collapse posted:Strong personal anecdotal feelings that lots of people die in Challengers for reasons not related to the car itself. Similar for the Mirage. I’m gonna say that the people that buy the cheapest new car on the market do so because they’re subject to a specific mix of socioeconomic factors that may contribute to a higher death rate.
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Full Collapse posted:Strong personal anecdotal feelings that lots of people die in Challengers for reasons not related to the car itself. What are your feelings for the stat on the Nissan Altima?
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Ambassadorofsodomy posted:What are your feelings for the stat on the Nissan Altima? It’s a fine car. I rented one and it was ok. It’s more I’ve found the Challenger tends to be bought by folks who weave through traffic going 20 over the limit. I love the Spark, but I kept feeling I’d be squished under an SUV whenever I drove it. Full Collapse fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Aug 23, 2023 |
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I remember Oldsmobile Aleros having lower insurance rates than Pontiac Grand Ams despite them being mechanically identical. The Pontiac had a higher claims rate because their owners tended to be younger. More recently I replaced a 09 Malibu with 17 Buick Regal Turbo and my insurance payments actually went down even though it has something like 100 more hp.
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Aug 23, 2023 17:41
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Nothing on that list surprises me in the least
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Full Collapse posted:Strong personal anecdotal feelings that lots of people die in Challengers for reasons not related to the car itself. I think that explains the Challenger > Charger > 300 range, but the 300 appears to be a very mediocre beginning baseline.
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Fornax Disaster posted:I remember Oldsmobile Aleros having lower insurance rates than Pontiac Grand Ams despite them being mechanically identical. The Pontiac had a higher claims rate because their owners tended to be younger. More recently I replaced a 09 Malibu with 17 Buick Regal Turbo and my insurance payments actually went down even though it has something like 100 more hp. This is how it’s suppose to work, insurance rates are determined by actuarial tables that account for how often a car is crashed and how likely insurance will need to pay out. Power, seats, etc none of that stuff matters (but sometimes has loose correlations).
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This looks like poo poo. How expensive is it? Seats look nice in fabric and the panoramic roof is nice but the lines and details on the outside aren't very coherent. What's annoying is with some tweaks it could be a good looking car but they let a maniac who doesn't understand flowing features at it. It's telling that it looks better with the chrome bits blacked out. https://twitter.com/albano57/status/1694145075842896229?t=5hCSUQ6_Yp65zSP6y5rdgw&s=19 Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Aug 24, 2023 |
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Aug 24, 2023 11:48
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Olympic Mathlete posted:This looks like poo poo. How expensive is it? Is this a Cadillac? If so, it's the first Cadillac in 50 years that looks the part.
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Aug 24, 2023 13:41
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Mr. Wiggles posted:Is this a Cadillac? If so, it's the first Cadillac in 50 years that looks the part.
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Aug 24, 2023 15:24
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Olympic Mathlete posted:This looks like poo poo. How expensive is it? Square off the rear you loving cowards
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dissss posted:The Kia Rio is still around for now right? If by "around" you mean "just announced that it got axed," then you'd be right: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44887593/kia-rio-dead/ Sab669 posted:Square off the rear you loving cowards 
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Aug 24, 2023 15:50
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Olympic Mathlete posted:This looks like poo poo. How expensive is it? Looks like an old Prius wtf
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Aug 24, 2023 15:52
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Sab669 posted:Square off the rear you loving cowards
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Sab669 posted:Square off the rear you loving cowards It's the giant pillar blind spots in the rear for me.
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Aug 24, 2023 16:21
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Yea, world's chonkiest D-Pillar is too much. So if it was a wagon and that was glass it wouldn't look so goofy 
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Aug 24, 2023 16:24
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Olympic Mathlete posted:This looks like poo poo. How expensive is it? ok hyundai this is getting a bit much *clicks to see uncropped image* oh
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Alternative hot take: "Mom can we get an Audi A7?" "We have an A7 at home!"
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