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Haven’t watched the trailer yet myself but you guys describing it as a cheesy pastiche makes me hyped honestly
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dr_rat posted:I do love that Vin Diesel just uses all his fast and furious clout to make that goofy sci-fi series. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Witch_Hunter
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Aug 24, 2023 01:47
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dr_rat posted:I do love that Vin Diesel just uses all his fast and furious clout to make that goofy sci-fi series. I was listening to an interview with Alan Dean Foster, who is the king of sci-fi movie novelizations and wrote the novelization of Chronicles of Riddick, and he had a lot of positive things to say about Diesel. When visiting the set Diesel just wanted to talk about science fiction, asked him to give input on the script, put him in the background of a scene, etc.
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Aug 24, 2023 01:52
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Chairman Capone posted:I was listening to an interview with Alan Dean Foster, who is the king of sci-fi movie novelizations and wrote the novelization of Chronicles of Riddick, and he had a lot of positive things to say about Diesel. When visiting the set Diesel just wanted to talk about science fiction, asked him to give input on the script, put him in the background of a scene, etc. Haha, that's awesome. Honestly surprised him and Henry Cavill haven't done a movie together so they could just chill out talking sci-fi nerd stuff on set.
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Aug 24, 2023 01:56
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Failed Imagineer posted:Actually lost track with the amount of genres and movies being ripped off in that trailer how do you rip off a genre.
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Aug 24, 2023 02:14
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Space Opera is built on ripoffs. Star Wars ripped off Flash Gordon which ripped off John Carter which ripped off, I dunno, Hercules or some poo poo but on Mars
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In which Henry Cavill livestreams himself and Vin Diesel being sci-fi nerds and building a high end gaming rig from scratch. Cavill explaining to Diesel in great detail about the differences between certain thermal pastes.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Space Opera is built on ripoffs. Star Wars ripped off Flash Gordon which ripped off John Carter which ripped off, I dunno, Hercules or some poo poo but on Mars Star Wars ripped off Dune which ripped off Isaac Asmiov’s Foundation series from the 50’s which ripped off John Carter from decades earlier. Warhammer 40K ripped off all of those things.
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Aug 24, 2023 02:58
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Gonz posted:Star Wars ripped off Dune which ripped off Isaac Asmiov’s Foundation series from the 50’s. I recently got back into 40k (no i don't know why shut up) and had never quite put together just how much of it is lifted wholesale from Dune. The rest is lifted wholesale from the same company's fantasy universe, which is best understood as 'lord of the rings but a child is explaining it as he downs an entire crate of juice boxes'
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Snowman_McK posted:I recently got back into 40k (no i don't know why shut up) Speaking as someone who's followed 40k for far longer than they would care to admit, its one of those things that comes and goes every few years like some kind of chronic disease. There's no known cure, and the only treatment is superglue, acrylic paint and a tub full of plastic bits.
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Gonz posted:In which Henry Cavill livestreams himself and Vin Diesel being sci-fi nerds and building a high end gaming rig from scratch. An indy movie following two nerds with hearts of gold making it to the big tournament, but everyone involved with gaming are these incredibly jacked people.
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Pain and Gain 40K I'm deffo watching the Rebel Moon films whenever I get access but was struck by how obvious the "I'm not going to get to direct a Star Wars...or am I?" the trailer was.
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The Rebel Moon trailer doesn’t give me Star Wars vibes at all. Mainly because it actually looks interesting.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Chronicles of Riddick was a giant flop, so the only reason we got the Riddick movie after that was because of Vin Diesel, and it was on a much smaller budget. Yeah, but it had ambition! Can we get Judi Dench? gently caress it, get Judi Dench! The bad guys are called Necromongers, and they land on planets in these giant skull-dagger-shaped ships that pierce the crust, and by the end of it Riddick is their freaking king... It flamed out, but it flamed out in glorious fashion. At least Netflix is letting Snyder run with two movies' worth of what seems like the same sort of ambition. Not sure I want to give them any money during the strike, though.
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The movie didn't make much of an impression otherwise, but I love how Riddick happens because Karl Urban's character from Chronicles wouldn't have any of that Space King Conan poo poo.
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Snowman_McK posted:I recently got back into 40k (no i don't know why shut up) and had never quite put together just how much of it is lifted wholesale from Dune. The rest is lifted wholesale from the same company's fantasy universe, which is best understood as 'lord of the rings but a child is explaining it as he downs an entire crate of juice boxes' There's also a lot of 2000 AD comics in 40k. Notably but not exclusively Nemesis the Warlock.
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Chronicles of a Riddick is an unabashed love letter to the sort of Earl Norem/Frank Frazetta sandals and lasers poo poo from a very particular moment in the mid 80s (Krull, Yor: Hunter From The Future, He-Man) with a bit of Space Religion Inquisition thrown in for flavor. Snyder has repeatedly professed his love for that period via Heavy Metal magazine, Frazetta, and Vallejo so it's not surprising he ended up on similar ground.
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dr_rat posted:Haha, that's awesome. Honestly surprised him and Henry Cavill haven't done a movie together so they could just chill out talking sci-fi nerd stuff on set. Sorry, Cavill is a Warhammer fan and Diesel is a D&D fan, the differences are irreconcilable
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Schwarzwald posted:Notably but not exclusively Nemesis the Warlock. Finding out about the Nemesis connection explained so much about why 40k is the way it is. Good lord, I can't even imagine what that series would be like without Nemesis.
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I'm actually getting rather Dune vibes from Rebel Moon in particular, probably on purpose I'm sure. But that whole sci-fantasy mix is just kind of a whole swirling cauldron at this point.
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dr_rat posted:What if we made a space fantasy film but the good guys were also fascists! Fascists tend to die in Snyder movies. Batman cheated death by renouncing fascism.
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Snowman_McK posted:
Great post.
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I rewatched Sicario after talking about it and had a blast. Denis makes such good movies.
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I actually clicked through and watched that Rebel Moon trailer, and the movie actually looks interesting. The trailer was vague enough that I could not tell you the plot (good) and the visuals look excellent. It's sci-fi not based on an existing property, so it automatically goes into my watch list just for the novelty of that.
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Anonymous Zebra posted:I actually clicked through and watched that Rebel Moon trailer, and the movie actually looks interesting. The trailer was vague enough that I could not tell you the plot (good) and the visuals look excellent. It's sci-fi not based on an existing property, so it automatically goes into my watch list just for the novelty of that. I mean it's not an adaptation, but you can't watch that trailer and say it's not based on existing properties. It's like a movie version of Game Master Anthony's Birthday Party.
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dr_rat posted:Haha, that's awesome. Honestly surprised him and Henry Cavill haven't done a movie together so they could just chill out talking sci-fi nerd stuff on set. Unfortunately it sounds like Diesel is a massive rear end in a top hat to work with these days, Justin Lin walked off the last Fast and Furious movie partially because he couldn’t deal with him.
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Ironically at the same time, Dwayne Johnson's failure at WB made him return to F&F. I still hope the last main F&F movie can bring Lin back. His style is still invisible in the coolest parts of Fast X. They're already bringing everyone else back including Gal Gadot.
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Professor Shark posted:I rewatched Sicario after talking about it and had a blast. Denis makes such good movies. Enemies is such a loving trip.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I mean it's not an adaptation, but you can't watch that trailer and say it's not based on existing properties. It's like a movie version of Game Master Anthony's Birthday Party. If you want to talk about Game Master Anthony's birthday, you seem to be forgetting the 2018 masterpiece from legendary director, Steven Spielberg - Ready Player One. As for Rebel Moon, the whole trailer looks overstuffed and needing way more support materials for the world building it looks to be doing. I'll still watch it tho...
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RevKrule posted:
Good thing it's part 1 then (part 2 is being released 5 months later)
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RevKrule posted:As for Rebel Moon, the whole trailer looks overstuffed and needing way more support materials for the world building it looks to be doing. I'll still watch it tho... It's really, really, really depressing to see that corporate branding synergy bullshit has infected your brain to this degree.
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I saw reddit chatter that Snyder is also planning director cuts of both films (hilarious since Netflix isn't going to be cutting them, he just will have a longer version) which I guess means they get 4 movies for the price of two (very expensive movies)
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The budget for both movies combined is $166 million, $83 million per movie. Triple Frontier was 115 million. The budget for Red Notice was 200 million. The budget for Grey Man was 200 million. On a per movie basis, Rebel Moon is far closer to Extraction 2 (70 million). They aren't "very expensive" movies by anyone's standards, Tars.
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I thought the budget for noted fake movie Red Notice was even higher than that.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:The budget for both movies combined is $166 million, $83 million per movie. And Glass Onion was 500 million.
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Gray Man is the worst movies I’ve seen in the last few years, incredible given the talent.
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I think it lived up to its title precisely They absolutely spunked that $200m up the wall tho
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The MSJ posted:Fascists tend to die in Snyder movies. 
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm actually getting rather Dune vibes from Rebel Moon in particular, probably on purpose I'm sure. But that whole sci-fantasy mix is just kind of a whole swirling cauldron at this point. quite literally "we have Dune at home"
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