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Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone




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GateOfD
Jan 31, 2023

So kawaii..

EVIL Gibson posted:

One of my favorites just jumped the slavery shark. :eng99:

The Mochi I Drew Is Tasty Today Too

Edit: it was the one where the kid drawing things can bring it into reality including the ability to heal by drawing a portrait of the being without wounds.

Shame but it's such a nice feeling removing series from the read list because of the dumb slave normalcy trope.


that looks okay, would prefer the MC was a bit older. Is there a timeskip shortly after the beginning

One other Drawing isekai I read the available chapters last week was one about a manga artist that could draw things and summon it using his mana. Ended up using it to draw golems and dragons and potions. It had pretty good action shots. Too bad its done by the Freezing artist who has a crazy habit of just dropping series in the middle and leaving it permanent hiatus when he gets bored.

GateOfD fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Aug 24, 2023

Elite
Oct 30, 2010

That Time I Died to Exploding-Plane-Kun and Reincarnated as a Warlord in a Fantasy Land

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

doomrider7 posted:

As I have it understood, that's at the epilogue of quite a bit of what you typed happening.

it doesn't happen at all, is the thing. the guy you see in the school arc is p. much what he'll be for the rest of the story.

the moment that disconnected me even as a starry-eyed genre newbie was when his daughter is crying at him leaving for an adventure and it's all very heartwarming, then mentally he's like "don't worry when i get back we'll take a bath together" and for gently caress's sake dude, really?

he learns nothing except how to keep his creepiness quieter


what an astoundingly Russian picture

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Aug 24, 2023

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Captain Invictus posted:

I'm reading the manga of it and it's got that part for sure, but then there's a pretty great twist later on where he gets shown every instance where he died and the aftermath where people were mortified that he killed himself to reset due to loving up a loop, and then told like "why do you think people don't care about you and throw your life away to save them as if they'd be happy after that?" The current manga chapters have been him relying on other people and friends rather than charging suicidally forward himself, which imo is a big improvement. I'm sure it's gonna have tons more horrific slaughter and gore but at least he's not as self-hating as he was before

Basically I like the character growth in re zero a lot more than the near-nonexistent character growth in a series like overlord

tbf he might think that because many of his friends have brutally murdered him at some point or other

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

Elite posted:

That Time I Died to Exploding-Plane-Kun and Reincarnated as a Warlord in a Fantasy Land

KonoSuba: An exploding plane on this wonderful world

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

Yinlock posted:

it doesn't happen at all, is the thing. the guy you see in the school arc is p. much what he'll be for the rest of the story.

the moment that disconnected me even as a starry-eyed genre newbie was when his daughter is crying at him leaving for an adventure and it's all very heartwarming, then mentally he's like "don't worry when i get back we'll take a bath together" and for gently caress's sake dude, really?

he learns nothing except how to keep his creepiness quieter

what an astoundingly Russian picture

Jesus that's even WORSE then. That spoiler would be eyebrow rising from any other parent, but still okay in that kind of weird "Dad is super protective and doting to daughter" way that Japan always does. From him though it's one the biggest loving YIKES possible. If I recall, isn't his solution to staying faithful to his wives also insanely gross and sleazy?

Fangz posted:

Just watch Slayers instead

This. Slayers is awesome y'all and it has some dope as hell movies and OVA's.

Edit: Never got into either Overlord or RE:Zero. The former because it just felt like edgy wish-fulfilment nonsense and the latter because it felt like it veered into mean-spirited torture porn.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


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doomrider7 posted:

Jesus that's even WORSE then. That spoiler would be eyebrow rising from any other parent, but still okay in that kind of weird "Dad is super protective and doting to daughter" way that Japan always does. From him though it's one the biggest loving YIKES possible. If I recall, isn't his solution to staying faithful to his wives also insanely gross and sleazy?

This. Slayers is awesome y'all and it has some dope as hell movies and OVA's.

Edit: Never got into either Overlord or RE:Zero. The former because it just felt like edgy wish-fulfilment nonsense and the latter because it felt like it veered into mean-spirited torture porn.

Yeah, the dads and daughters bathing together is common in Japan, but its really just him specifically that makes it creepy, because he's a sleazy creepy dude

GateOfD
Jan 31, 2023

So kawaii..
i mean if you try to twist everything in the worse way possible, sounds like you guys would condemn him for enjoying sleeping with his wife, even though that's something people do, believe it or not. oh but its rudy, so its bad.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
it sort of is, though.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


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GateOfD posted:

i mean if you try to twist everything in the worse way possible, sounds like you guys would condemn him for enjoying sleeping with his wife, even though that's something people do, believe it or not. oh but its rudy, so its bad.

Wives. But yes. The Panty Worshipper is slightly creepy.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




The bathing together thing is whatever, they do things differently in Japan, compared to the US where we wanna get toddlers potty-trained, walking and bathing by themselves by age 4 if possible. But I digress, I dispise anyone loving their family on princible and Rudeus trying to create a Hapsburg dynasty doesn't help even before you start discussing the pedophilia.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

while kids and adults bathing together is normal in Japan it's mostly a way to stop accidents from happening and ensuring the kid actually gets clean, it's not like something you bring up out of nowhere and look forward to.

that said i don't think he's trying to hapsburg it up, his daughter was like near-infant at that point and he's not quite THAT vile, it's mostly an example of how his thought process is still weird and gross in general and he hasn't actually changed by the end of the story

e: i never read the weird epilogue sidestory about his son though so maybe he gets even worse, who knows

GateOfD posted:

i mean if you try to twist everything in the worse way possible, sounds like you guys would condemn him for enjoying sleeping with his wife, even though that's something people do, believe it or not. oh but its rudy, so its bad.

i'll assume better when he stops literally worshipping underwear

spoiler: he never does

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Aug 24, 2023

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
I gave Mushoku Tensei manga the good ol ' college try back in the day and I commend it for the things that it does that other schlock isekai doesn't bother with (more in depth character interactions, motivations, and world building)

I think I stopped around the school arc and then never picked it up again. And the more I thought about it the more I did not like Rudeus bc the author will not let him drop the creeper behavior and how that refusal to change the fundamentally awful part and frame it as comedic "tee hee, he's such a whacky perv" sours and weakens the story as a whole.

At first I was like, "maybe it's just me, I like fun, I like questionable stuff!" So I tried picking it up again.

The chapter started with the underground shrine and underwear worship and I went never mind bye

Compendium fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Aug 25, 2023

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."
I hate most of the content of mushoku (the anime) but I absolutely love the color usage and animation. I really want this company to do a non creepy fantasy show, but probably won't happen until the isekai phase finally dies.

Apprentice Dick
Dec 1, 2009
In like the second episode of this season I thought he would ditch the underwear for a second. Then they leaned into it even harder and I have noped out of the show. The worst part is that the setting and art style are cool.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Apprentice Dick posted:

In like the second episode of this season I thought he would ditch the underwear for a second. Then they leaned into it even harder and I have noped out of the show. The worst part is that the setting and art style are cool.

And like even his relationships with his partners would be fairly okay....

If he could just get over the creepy otaku perverted poo poo like his underwear shrine.

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

GateOfD posted:

i mean if you try to twist everything in the worse way possible, sounds like you guys would condemn him for enjoying sleeping with his wife, even though that's something people do, believe it or not. oh but its rudy, so its bad.

It's kind of hard not to when one is an elf he pseudo groomed and the other is from a race that looks pre-pubecesnt until they "come of age" after 140 years, but it's cool though because she's 40 even though she looks 13.

Apprentice Dick posted:

In like the second episode of this season I thought he would ditch the underwear for a second. Then they leaned into it even harder and I have noped out of the show. The worst part is that the setting and art style are cool.

This is what makes then shoddy adaptions of Faraway Paladin and Helck that much more enraging. There's cool awesome stuff out there, it just doesn't get the quality adaptions they deserve.

CommieGIR posted:

And like even his relationships with his partners would be fairly okay....

If he could just get over the creepy otaku perverted poo poo like his underwear shrine.

If I recall he adds a cutout part of the sheets stained by the elf girls vigin blood after they have sex so yeah it's going anywhere. Then there's the thing about the magic panties to fix the one girls over sex issues.

doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Aug 25, 2023

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

doomrider7 posted:

If I recall he adds a cutout part of the sheets stained by the elf girls vigin blood after they have sex so yeah it's going anywhere. Then there's the thing about the magic panties to fix the one girls over sex issues.

Oh God I mentally blocked that cringe out, Jesus yeah that was loving awful.

Apprentice Dick
Dec 1, 2009

doomrider7 posted:

If I recall he adds a cutout part of the sheets stained by the elf girls vigin blood after they have sex so yeah it's going anywhere. Then there's the thing about the magic panties to fix the one girls over sex issues.

:allbuttons:

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



There's always more and it's always worse.

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

Nitrousoxide posted:

There's always more and it's always worse.

And I didn't even post what the last one was about because it's so loving stupid and juvenile even by the standards of everything else posted.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

doomrider7 posted:

If I recall he adds a cutout part of the sheets stained by the elf girls vigin blood after they have sex so yeah it's going anywhere. Then there's the thing about the magic panties to fix the one girls over sex issues.

holy poo poo i do not remember this at all but it rings the faintest, tiniest bell

thank you for suppressing this, brain

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

GateOfD posted:

it still remains one of the better isekais with a grander scale of world building and characters, and there's actual counter forces in play versus the other isekais which are cheat based where everything just works out for instant victory for the MC

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

any good ideas it has are overwhelmed by the incredible deluge of bad ideas.

way back it was one of the few long translations in town iirc. it is really funny they ran out of so much unoriginal wish fufillment garbage they had to grimance and animate it for the god of consumption despite its japan factor being out of this world

Elite
Oct 30, 2010
I read a lot of Jobless Reincarnation up until midway through the magic school arc (the translation I read missed some chapters though) and even as obvious sucker for isekai stories I really don’t know why. The guy goes on a multi-arc quest to resolve his erectile dysfunction, it’s one of his main motivations and I have no idea why any author thought it was a good idea. Some earlier posts mentioned that they liked the world building and more in depth character interactions/motivations, but to me it felt like stuff happened kind of randomly over and over again. About the only instance of character depth that I thought worked well was Rudy vowing not to repeat the mistakes of his past life and do better this time. But he’s not a particularly likeable character soo..
It might not have cheat in the title but he basically does have cheat level magic powers, he just doesn’t really seem to have too many ambitions on how to use them and he had to “work” for them. There being a few characters in the setting that are more powerful than him (one of whom that is literally god?) doesn’t really change that.

I watched Overlord anime s1 and it’s fun when Ainz is desperately trying to babysit his insane demon NPCs from messing things up, but not great at anything else. It feels like he does stuff randomly (I.e. becoming an adventurer for information, then not gaining any information from it). It also felt like they set up his guild as this unstoppable overwhelming force and desperately had to find some way to create a credible threat to him. So one of his subordinates gets mind controlled then he fights her 1v1 even though she’s supposed to be a hard counter to him, then he kills her and spends a shitton of resources resurrecting her. And the show tries to portray this as a genius move, but it seemed dumb and wasteful to me.

ReZero I liked though, and I don’t really get the torture porn criticism. It would be torture if Subaru learned nothing, accomplished nothing, and just got beaten up all the time but that isn’t the case. Some parts of it don’t work and it is a bit weird how Subaru stays friends with people that murdered the poo poo out of him on other timelines but at the very least I thought it was an interesting deconstruction of the genre.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
All I know about this series is what the thread has mentioned plus the author spoke about slavery in the setting recently and that went as well as one might expect.

EDIT

Jobless Reincarnation, I mean, not Re:Zero

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Aug 25, 2023

sirtommygunn
Mar 7, 2013



I like Re:Zero but it definitely falls into "torture porn" at times. It doesn't do that solely to satisfy the sadists, but it regularly goes farther than it needs to in order to get its point across.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

sirtommygunn posted:

I like Re:Zero but it definitely falls into "torture porn" at times. It doesn't do that solely to satisfy the sadists, but it regularly goes farther than it needs to in order to get its point across.

Yeah, that's what pushed me away from it - Subaru does learn from what happens, but the frequency at which he dies and how he dies is rather disturbing.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Elite posted:

I watched Overlord anime s1 and it’s fun when Ainz is desperately trying to babysit his insane demon NPCs from messing things up, but not great at anything else. It feels like he does stuff randomly (I.e. becoming an adventurer for information, then not gaining any information from it). It also felt like they set up his guild as this unstoppable overwhelming force and desperately had to find some way to create a credible threat to him. So one of his subordinates gets mind controlled then he fights her 1v1 even though she’s supposed to be a hard counter to him, then he kills her and spends a shitton of resources resurrecting her. And the show tries to portray this as a genius move, but it seemed dumb and wasteful to me.

he wins because he spent the fight lying his rear end off about p. much everything, a fight is the only time Ainz is legitimately smart. and that entire situation happened because he hosed up big time and sent his fanatic blood beserker on a mission for info-gathering, it's just that the NPCs are literally incapable of imagining him making any kind of error. he resurrected her because he basically considers them his friends' children and feels extremely bad about having to kill her

the weird toxic family dynamic where Ainz feels he has to put on an air of omniescence to avoid dissappointing his children, who in turn only become even more fanatically loyal because they all have serious abandonment issues and fear that he may also leave them if they can't properly grasp his 20d chess strategies that are definitely real, is one of overlord's genuinely compelling plot beats.

also that's generally why the story starts focusing more on the world around nazarick than the tomb itself after that, if you're looking for any actual threat to them then uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh(continued for 8 pages)

sirtommygunn posted:

I like Re:Zero but it definitely falls into "torture porn" at times. It doesn't do that solely to satisfy the sadists, but it regularly goes farther than it needs to in order to get its point across.

yeah it's not quite suffering for suffering's sake but it definitely revels in it a bit too much

e: one part i like is that from an outside point of view subaru seems terrifying and omniescent since he always seems to win and nobody can loving kill this kid ever, but they never really explore that angle much afaik

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Aug 25, 2023

PringleCreamEgg
Jul 2, 2004

Sleep, rest, do your best.
Jobless Reincarnation is a series I got into after seeing a clip of Rudeus' Party vs Orsted in season one and finding it to be my favorite anime fight since GaoGaiGar (Guy) vs GaoFighGar (Mamoru) in GaoGaiGar FINAL, both of which are highly enhanced by having context from the greater series. Honestly an all-time great anime fight. I recommend this series to almost no one because Rudeus is so awful, he can only look good when compared to a few other Isekai protagonists but that's like saying someone isn't so bad when you compare them to serial killers. I personally have a soft spot for the series for a few mostly spoiler-heavy reasons from the light novels. Haven't read the webnovels, though. The anime leaves out a lot of Rudeus' internal monologue which is both a blessing and a curse, leaving that out of the section from the beginning of this season when he's depressed is honestly a huge loss for the series in my opinion. That was one of my favorite parts of the series.

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."
Spoilers for jobless reincarnation (stuff the anime hasn't covered yet) but an article on my newsfeed told me Rudy has two kids each with eris, sylphie, and Roxy.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

PringleCreamEgg posted:

Jobless Reincarnation is a series I got into after seeing a clip of Rudeus' Party vs Orsted in season one and finding it to be my favorite anime fight since GaoGaiGar (Guy) vs GaoFighGar (Mamoru) in GaoGaiGar FINAL, both of which are highly enhanced by having context from the greater series. Honestly an all-time great anime fight. I recommend this series to almost no one because Rudeus is so awful, he can only look good when compared to a few other Isekai protagonists but that's like saying someone isn't so bad when you compare them to serial killers. I personally have a soft spot for the series for a few mostly spoiler-heavy reasons from the light novels. Haven't read the webnovels, though. The anime leaves out a lot of Rudeus' internal monologue which is both a blessing and a curse, leaving that out of the section from the beginning of this season when he's depressed is honestly a huge loss for the series in my opinion. That was one of my favorite parts of the series.

the animators went in way too hard on a bad story, that said iirc even in the novels the fights were alright

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
got a link to that fight? i'm not watching that fuckin' show but i'm always up for a gorgeously animated fight scene.

PringleCreamEgg
Jul 2, 2004

Sleep, rest, do your best.

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

got a link to that fight? i'm not watching that fuckin' show but i'm always up for a gorgeously animated fight scene.

https://youtu.be/okEjdqtG5b4?si=iuDIremU0h17zL6d

Has a ton of lovely jump cuts to avoid copyright on all the youtube clips I could find, it’s episode 21 and is the first half of the episode if you want it in higher quality on one of the official streaming sights like Crunchy.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
grand dwarf ch10: slave

thankfully it went down the good route.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

grand dwarf ch10: slave

thankfully it went down the good route.

making them look like fist of the north star jobbers was an interesting choice. and also an amazing one

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012
New Red Ranger Isekai

gently caress your trolley problem we have the power of bondsfriendship

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



I really, really hope that this and RTA get adapted eventually :allears:

Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY

The Wagner Group has officially confirmed that Yevgeny Prigozhin has been reincarnated in a fantasy world as the second son of a noble... but he has no magic skills?!

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A jargogle
Feb 22, 2011
He certainly has the moral character to fit right in

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