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Wipfmetz
Oct 12, 2007

Sitzen ein oder mehrere Wipfe in einer Lore, so kann man sie ueber den Rand der Lore hinausschauen sehen.
Mobile TV was a very cool fancy thing, anyway.
Sega's Gamegear had a TV receiver module, which I always wanted.
No idea what I would have done with it, so I guess my parents were right with not buying it.

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Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Wipfmetz posted:

Mobile TV was a very cool fancy thing, anyway.
Sega's Gamegear had a TV receiver module, which I always wanted.
No idea what I would have done with it, so I guess my parents were right with not buying it.

My buddy had it. The Gamegear's color palette limited how many colors could be on screen, so things always looked slightly off (like the color of a guy's suit would be green instead of blue).

It was neat, but the power hungry nature of the Gamegear meant it wasn't exactly a great add-on.

Wipfmetz
Oct 12, 2007

Sitzen ein oder mehrere Wipfe in einer Lore, so kann man sie ueber den Rand der Lore hinausschauen sehen.

Nocheez posted:

It was neat, but the power hungry nature of the Gamegear meant it wasn't exactly a great add-on.
Nah, with a set of 6 fully recharged AA batteries you've sometimes got nearly 60 minutes of playtime.

Dysgenesis
Jul 12, 2012

HAVE AT THEE!


Nocheez posted:

My buddy had it. The Gamegear's color palette limited how many colors could be on screen, so things always looked slightly off (like the color of a guy's suit would be green instead of blue).

It was neat, but the power hungry nature of the Gamegear meant it wasn't exactly a great add-on.

I remember my friend lending his TV tuner to me and I used it to watch red heat after I had gone to bed.

I was 11 or 12 I think. I still remember how often it needed retuning.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
It was the perfect device to smuggle to school, tune to a day-drunk paid programming channel to prove you could do it, then realize there wasn't anything worth watching during the middle of the day

Dysgenesis
Jul 12, 2012

HAVE AT THEE!


I've you watched a long play video on YouTube of gg shinobi. That was a great game.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
I wanted the tv tuner for long road trips. I realized later that there probably wasn't tv reception for most of the trip. There were a few areas where you barely had FM.

My Dad also refused to allow any car power adapters to be used, until we got a GPS unit and that would be using up the socket.

My friend in college had his parents old custom van. It had a built in vcr and crt for the back seats. I don't think it had an inverter, but I assume you could get a voltage adapter to run a Nintendo off of 12v.

Unperson_47
Oct 14, 2007



Y'all talking about color on TVs reminded me of something. Most TVs I had that were CRTs had problems displaying reds. For example, a red coat might appear freakishly and unrealistically red. It would be all overly saturated and uniform in color. All the other colors on the same frame were fine. Any idea what that was about?

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Did the red also have a weird overbleed or noticably shifted from where it should be red? I remember noticing that especially on the old Star Trek with the bright red uniforms.

GazChap
Dec 4, 2004

I'm hungry. Feed me.

barbecue at the folks posted:

The ST was incredibly good for making electronic music for a lot longer than one would think. PCs were dogshit at MIDI until the 2000s (and for a while even past then, some grogs would claim that even today), but you boot an ST and it Just Works and comes with zero distractions. poo poo, I would love to have one even now to run my pile of old garbage synths.
Calvin Harris made the entirety of his album I Created Disco on an Amiga A1200, using OctaMED SoundStudio if I remember correctly.

Unperson_47
Oct 14, 2007



Randalor posted:

Did the red also have a weird overbleed or noticably shifted from where it should be red? I remember noticing that especially on the old Star Trek with the bright red uniforms.

Yeah it did.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Guy Axlerod posted:

My friend in college had his parents old custom van. It had a built in vcr and crt for the back seats. I don't think it had an inverter, but I assume you could get a voltage adapter to run a Nintendo off of 12v.

yeah we had a 12V TV/NES/VCR setup in the Winnebago, that'd operate while driving

felt amazing to watch TV and play video games on road trips, in the early 90s

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

Unperson_47 posted:

Y'all talking about color on TVs reminded me of something. Most TVs I had that were CRTs had problems displaying reds. For example, a red coat might appear freakishly and unrealistically red. It would be all overly saturated and uniform in color. All the other colors on the same frame were fine. Any idea what that was about?
1-The red primary in CRTs sucked compared to even a cheap panel. Nothing to do with the question, I just feel very strongly about this.
2-Phosphors age differently, e.g. when I was a kid my grandparent’s TV in a fancy wooden box had almost zero reds.
3-Change in response is common in aging phosphors. I’d guess that the curve changed enough on the red that it saturated early. This would be common to many products of the same era, as phosphors changed rarely.
4-you could probably measure with a simple colorimeter and make a shader to fix it. It’s possible turning the gun down but I’d guess that would be trading problems. But don’t play inside CRTs unless you know what you’re doing. I worked with them professionally when I was still in school and won’t muck around inside one.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
^^^^^
I think the human eye is better at seeing different shades of red as well, at least in dark situations.


I grabbed some stuff from my mom's house that she was about to throw away, some old TV stuff like VHF converters (I think?). I'll grab a picture if anyone is interested, and am happy to ship to you at cost.

Slavik
May 10, 2009

Wipfmetz posted:

Mobile TV was a very cool fancy thing, anyway.
Sega's Gamegear had a TV receiver module, which I always wanted.
No idea what I would have done with it, so I guess my parents were right with not buying it.
I remember several people and me at work crowded around this during the Fifa World Cup back in 2002. We gave up after a while and turned on the radio. It was pretty awful.

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




Typically, the red of a CRT survives the longest. A reddish, dark image with the contrast and brightness turned all the way up is the telltale symptom of a worn out CRT.

In good condition, CRT color rendition is excellent. However, from factory the set might be adjusted to give oversaturated colors and too high contrast, to look attractive (which is not the same as good) in a showroom.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/ObsoleteSony/status/1695043349634507149?s=20

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Oh yes, I remember those stylish chunks of plastic. Very cyberdeck.

ynohtna
Feb 16, 2007

backwoods compatible
Illegal Hen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB6FIu2barg

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Groke posted:

Oh yes, I remember those stylish chunks of plastic. Very cyberdeck.

Didn't William Gibson go on record and say he was explicitly inspired by MSX computers when describing what cyberdecks looked like?

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
Those Palit designs are timeless, indeed.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011




I want this who do I have to kill to get one? Also, is MSX1 any good or if I actually wanted a MSX machine, would I be better off going with a MSX2 machine?

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


ishikabibble posted:

Didn't William Gibson go on record and say he was explicitly inspired by MSX computers when describing what cyberdecks looked like?

I believe so. Which isn't surprising. In the early 80s, if you're looking for where technology was headed, following the Japanese wasn't a bad bet.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/CuriosMuseum/status/1695390771820601756?s=20

Doctor Bishop
Oct 22, 2013

To understand what happened at the diner, we use Mr. Papaya. This is upsetting because he is the friendliest of fruits.

Randalor posted:

I want this who do I have to kill to get one? Also, is MSX1 any good or if I actually wanted a MSX machine, would I be better off going with a MSX2 machine?

Proper MSX2 machines are backwards-compatible with original MSX software so that seems to be the way to go.

HKR
Jan 13, 2006

there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally



Msx2 machines are the way to go if you want one msx to do it all but if you’re into collecting weird neat things you’ll end up with a few over time because there is so much variation in design and capabilities.

For my money the Sony hitbit msx2 with built in floppy can’t be beat.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.


So THAT'S what was in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction!

Radia
Jul 14, 2021

And someday, together.. We'll shine.

Randalor posted:

I want this who do I have to kill to get one? Also, is MSX1 any good or if I actually wanted a MSX machine, would I be better off going with a MSX2 machine?

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Aren't neon signs one of the last things that need to be made by hand by a skilled pro

Is there a sign machine or is it still some crazed mad science rear end in a top hat with oxyacetylene tanks

I want to believe

Ironhead
Jan 19, 2005

Ironhead. Mmm.


Yeah, I think almost entirely, true neon signs (although some are actually mercury vapor) are still made by hand. Modern LED "Neon" Rope has come pretty far, is relatively cheap, and nearly unbreakable, so it's really taking off as a replacment, particularly in environments where it could get busted. Which is pretty much anywhere people put neon sings anymore (bars, liquor stores, in theatre, etc).

emSparkly
Nov 21, 2022

I'm open to interpretation!
The Pioneer LaserActive. This is the coolest drat thing ever invented. It plays laserdiscs, Sega Genesis games, Turbografx games, and CDs. It even got some crazy awful but fascinating games that were put on laserdisc just for this thing. I would sell my or anyone else's kidney to get my hands on one.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaserActive

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
I have one of those. in the process of selling it to a friend. shipping is gonna be a bitch.

emSparkly
Nov 21, 2022

I'm open to interpretation!

Light Gun Man posted:

I have one of those. in the process of selling it to a friend. shipping is gonna be a bitch.

Do they need a kidney or two?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


emSparkly posted:

The Pioneer LaserActive. This is the coolest drat thing ever invented. It plays laserdiscs, Sega Genesis games, Turbografx games, and CDs. It even got some crazy awful but fascinating games that were put on laserdisc just for this thing. I would sell my or anyone else's kidney to get my hands on one.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaserActive

I ahve one, but only with the MegaDrive Pak. I don't think I'll ever find a PCEngine one for any sort of reasonable price.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy

emSparkly posted:

Do they need a kidney or two?

it's also gonna need repairs! so we are planning to ship it to the repair person first, and then his place, to save a couple of trips

NyetscapeNavigator
Sep 22, 2003

Randalor posted:

I want this who do I have to kill to get one? Also, is MSX1 any good or if I actually wanted a MSX machine, would I be better off going with a MSX2 machine?

There are many Yahoo Japan proxy sites you can order from. You definitely want an MSX2 at a minimum, unless you’re only interested in non-Japanese software (MSX2 and beyond were only in Japan).It’s a good idea to research models on places like MSX.org before buying since some models, including Sonys, are known to have leaky batteries.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




Linux running on a C64.

Not very practical though:

"The screenshots took VICE a couple hours in "warp mode" (activate it with Alt-W) to generate. So, as is, a real C64 should be able to boot Linux within a week or so."

https://github.com/onnokort/semu-c64

Wipfmetz
Oct 12, 2007

Sitzen ein oder mehrere Wipfe in einer Lore, so kann man sie ueber den Rand der Lore hinausschauen sehen.
_and_ it needs memory extension.

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Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



But it CAN load! ...so what can you actually do with it once it's loaded?

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