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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Ashoka Show is so glacially-paced and bereft of interesting concepts that it makes me long for the incompetence of Obiwan. Yuck! Strong avoid!
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I think I find it less fundamentally irksome than obi wan because at least it has some kind of conceivable reasons to exist, even if they're not reasons that do anything for me. But even so we're talking like a C- or D+ compared to obi wan's F
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Aug 26, 2023 07:06
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So when will Ahsoka travel back in time to save Young Leia from another Red Hot Chili Peppers member?
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Aug 26, 2023 08:15
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I have no idea what the show is about, but I will eat my hat if by the end of season two at the latest, Ahsoka didn't have to deal with Leia's spirit. Possibly tramsferring it into a new body or something.
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Aug 26, 2023 08:28
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Grendels Dad posted:I have no idea what the show is about, but I will eat my hat if by the end of season two at the latest, Ahsoka didn't have to deal with Leia's spirit. Possibly tramsferring it into a new body or something. That would be impressive given last I checked it takes place before the sequels.
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Aug 26, 2023 09:18
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Ghost Leviathan posted:That would be impressive given last I checked it takes place before the sequels. Time travel ghost!
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Aug 26, 2023 09:36
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The Ghost of Leia Future is totally different from a force ghost, deal with it
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Aug 26, 2023 09:55
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Grendels Dad posted:I have no idea what the show is about, Good and bad Jedis are on competing expeditions to a place for a vague reason*, amid reams and reams of fanservice for that cartoon I didn’t watch. That’s not a plot synopsis, by the way. That is the entire narrative of the first hour and a half. The runtime is padded out by all the characters repeatedly explaining the above to each-other in extremely simple terms, while performing basic actions very slowly. Pretty much every shot lasts a second or two longer than it needs to, lingering awkwardly. *The location contains “power”. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Aug 26, 2023 |
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Aug 26, 2023 13:45
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Two potential saviors, just hangin’ out playing cards for the past 10 years.
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Aug 26, 2023 14:12
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:
This is exactly right. Characters walk around rooms, tinker with things, look around pointlessly. It's maddening and I have no idea why the show is wasting my time like this. In her first scene, Ashoka solves an extremely simple video game puzzle by performing the same action three times very slowly. There's nothing smart or creative about it and scenes like that keep happening. Obi-Wan was bad, but it was at least entertaining from time to time in a bizarre way. You had Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen back together performing horrible scenes. Obi-Wan acting like an absolute moron. So far, Ashoka just seems boring in a strangely infuriating way.
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Aug 26, 2023 14:14
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I can't disagree with any of that, but I'll take boring over bad for now. Ahsoka isn't good, but I could potentially see an entertaining second half of the season once the story actually starts moving. Though more likely I'll drop this a few episodes in and start skipping through just to see what happens, just like I did with Obi-Wan. But to me, Obi-Wan was offensively bad at a core conceptual level and never moved beyond that. The entire idea of Obi-Wan doing a Leia rescue mission is just so creatively bankrupt that I'd far prefer a fan-fiction video game macguffin hunt over it. Though if we get more scenes like the absolutely embarrassing "smug rebel punk Sabine on a space motorcycle flipping off her cop friends while avoiding public service" I might change my tune.
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Aug 26, 2023 14:29
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I'm also in the "willing to give this slop a chance" bracket. If anything, the lengthy monotonous puzzle-solving scene gave me faith that this wasn't another Obi-wan, a show that often felt like a digest of itself. I'm back to writing up Star Wars for anyone interested, though much like the show I've not quite worked out what my angle is going to be. The presence of additional Jedi loafing around in the Empire years doesn't bother me all that much, because the logical conclusion to draw is just: they sucked. They either didn't care to defeat the Empire or they weren't able to. The Emperor deposed them and killed everyone who mattered and that was that.
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Aug 26, 2023 15:42
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Star Wars has taught me that jedi and Mandalorians look cool but are in fact real stupid. They are both terrible at seeing clues that give grave warnings that were missed and never have a backup plan. Star Wars has also taught me that their regular rear end spys are smart and competent
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Aug 26, 2023 15:55
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I watched an episode of the clone wars cartoon where they go into some kind of extratemporal diamond and meet a magic family who command life and death. The visuals were really great, and at the same time I wished they could exist outside of Anakin's preexisting conflict. Not that it was a bad exploration of it, but, you know.
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Aug 26, 2023 19:00
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I like that arc; they were on some CS Lewis poo poo
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Aug 26, 2023 19:06
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I'm watching Episode 9 for the first time since it was released and it's still an absolute mess. But something I didn't really notice is how much Threepio has to say and do in this movie. He kind of steals the show a bit. Weird because he's not really involved in the other two movies at all. It sucks how they made a digital Marionette of Leia because they chickened out of dealing with Carrie Fishers unfortunate death, and then repeatedly chicken out of killing off both Chewie and Threepio. It's such a cowardly movie, in so many ways. mitochondritom fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Aug 26, 2023 |
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Aug 26, 2023 19:49
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I don't kind the show taking its time. At least it's giving itself room to breathe unlike basically every non-Andor Disney show.
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Aug 26, 2023 19:50
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mitochondritom posted:Weird because he's not really involved in the other two movies at all. Neither is R2. They feel really vestigial. Every other sin of the ST aside, the fact that they never figured out what to do with R2 and 3PO is pretty damning.
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Aug 26, 2023 19:52
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feedmyleg posted:Neither is R2. They feel really vestigial. Every other sin of the ST aside, the fact that they never figured out what to do with R2 and 3PO is pretty damning. The prequels also struggled with it, though far more so for 3PO than R2.
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Aug 26, 2023 20:01
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stev posted:I don't kind the show taking its time. At least it's giving itself room to breathe unlike basically every non-Andor Disney show. I don't mind tv shows or films going slow. Twin Peaks Return tooks it's time with everything and it was great. There has to be some thematic or visual quality to it for it to work though, and I don't see anything like that in Ahsoka. Mandalorian season 3 was similar to an extent, e.g. when the Mandalorian goes to explore Mandalor for the first time and we get to see the path of different characters through a same tunnel at least three times in one episode. Today I watched this video which highlights how a low budget bbc tv show managed to look good through creative camera work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roI56_c_E6o. The Star Wars tv shows (with the exception of Andor) feel like the opposite. High budget but minimum possible effort extended as much as possible.
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Aug 26, 2023 20:03
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You know it’s weird. They created BB-8 to be the new R2-D2, but did not create a new C-3P0 to be his partner. They’re a comedy duo, it’s like having Abbot but no Costello or Tom without Jerry. Even KotOR knew to make a “protocol droid” *wink to pair with their Astromech.
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Aug 26, 2023 20:42
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galagazombie posted:You know it’s weird. They created BB-8 to be the new R2-D2, but did not create a new C-3P0 to be his partner. They’re a comedy duo, it’s like having Abbot but no Costello or Tom without Jerry. Even KotOR knew to make a “protocol droid” *wink to pair with their Astromech. Yeah, that was an odd mistake. Was there a counterpart in earlier drafts or what?
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Vim Fuego posted:Yeah, that was an odd mistake. Was there a counterpart in earlier drafts or what? Kind of. When they were developing the movie, the character who eventually became Poe went through a few rounds of deciding who exactly he would be. At one point they were considering making him a Bounty Hunter, who might have had a Wookiee companion. When they made him a Rebel, his companion evolved into a droid instead. The story at that would would have seen a bunch of Rebels captured and brought aboard a Star Destroyer, where their execution was witnessed by a Stormtrooper who had a change of heart and decided to help the sole survivor (and his droid) escape. As the story continued to evolve, the Rebel would have died in the crash on Jakku (his production nickname was "John Doe" before becoming Poe, and was only rewritten to survive at Oscar Isaac's request), leaving the Stormtrooper and the droid alive. So in the "The Force Awakens is a remake of A New Hope" scenario, BB-8 is R2, Poe is Leia, and Finn is C-3PO - the neurotic frightened companion who is only on the journey out of necessity and wants to get to safety as soon as possible.
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That sounds neat, but how do we pointlessly insert and then immediately kill Max von Sydow in all of that?
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FunkyAl posted:I watched an episode of the clone wars cartoon where they go into some kind of extratemporal diamond and meet a magic family who command life and death. The visuals were really great, and at the same time I wished they could exist outside of Anakin's preexisting conflict. Not that it was a bad exploration of it, but, you know. That sounds like the Mortis stuff, which Lucas was super heavily involved in and where he kind of wrote out what he thought of the Force by making three aspects of it people. I'm okay with Ahsoka being literal Rebels S5 for now, but a lot hinges on where the show goes now that it finally caught up with the end of that series and is going wherever it plans on going. Darko fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Aug 27, 2023 |
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Aug 26, 2023 22:09
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Most of us in the TV thread really like the Dark Jedi villains, they’re definitely a highlight so far. Elsbeth the Dathomir Witch is good too. Juries out on the inquisitor looking villain though.
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Grendels Dad posted:That sounds neat, but how do we pointlessly insert and then immediately kill Max von Sydow in all of that? He's the captain of the Tantive IV
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Cartoon Man posted:Most of us in the TV thread really like the Dark Jedi villains, they’re definitely a highlight so far. Elsbeth the Dathomir Witch is good too. Juries out on the inquisitor looking villain though. Honestly I hope he's like Lube Man and never seen again
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Aug 27, 2023 05:01
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I like the Sith Santa man
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Aug 27, 2023 06:59
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Ray Stevenson was the best. Even in Dexter where he played a really stupid hack character he brought it and was the most enjoyable part of that season.
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Aug 27, 2023 07:23
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I love how loving huge he looks in the show. Ray Stevenson was a big boy but his costuming and costars make him look like a giant.
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Aug 27, 2023 07:30
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZGedzA8TKw
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Aug 27, 2023 07:34
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the acting is asohka is garbagio across the board
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Aug 28, 2023 06:13
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Evil jedi guy had a few nice line deliveries but they were probably all cancelled out by not being able to resist having him sheev out about unlimited power a bit
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Aug 28, 2023 06:21
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Filoni must be stopped
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No Mods No Masters posted:Evil jedi guy had a few nice line deliveries but they were probably all cancelled out by not being able to resist having him sheev out about unlimited power a bit The dark side pretty much is spiritual cocaine after all
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YaketySass posted:Filoni must be stopped Been saying this
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CelticPredator posted:Ray Stevenson was the best. Even in Dexter where he played a really stupid hack character he brought it and was the most enjoyable part of that season. Titus Pullo!
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Good and bad Jedis are on competing expeditions to a place for a vague reason*, amid reams and reams of fanservice for that cartoon I didn’t watch. What got you into the Star Wars shows, anyway? Don't you really dislike serial TV?
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lmao who is doing QC at Disney https://twitter.com/mrbrecken/status/1694838436195082442"I think folks at disney have been tagging their media in the wrong way ....bc....Rec709-a is for apple displays only (which Ahsoka was set to). And when I set it back to regular rear end broadcast rec709 2.4 huzzah...poo poo POPS."
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