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A Festivus Miracle posted:If your autoloader on your T-72 explodes, does the crew end up hamburger or is it a survivable event for the crew? I know the Abrams is specifically designed so that an explosion like (hopefully) doesn't reduce the crew to charred gristle but I'm not versed on the survivability features of a T-72. You are turned into paste or very boney marinara. Surviving a tank explosion makes you a kulak so it's not allowed
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Aug 29, 2023 18:22
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A Festivus Miracle posted:If your autoloader on your T-72 explodes, does the crew end up hamburger or is it a survivable event for the crew? It's an explosion powerful enough to throw a 17 ton piece of metal incredibly high in the air, and it initially fills up a small enclosed space that the crew occupies. Everyone is going to be dead as gently caress (barring some kind of freak occurrence like someone getting lifted out of an open hatch they were half out of, in which case they would only get burned badly). E: to clarify: in which case they MIGHT only get burned badly. Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Aug 29, 2023 |
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Aug 29, 2023 18:22
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TulliusCicero posted:So Russia seems to have no actual plan for even if they hold the second line? I don't think Russia ever had a plan for anything in Ukraine other than Putin making war noises for 3 days and all of
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Aug 29, 2023 18:23
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Vampire Panties posted:Yes and no. The underlying game engine is really complex and (at least somewhat) accurately models the physics underneath. For example, if you shoot a wing off a plane, its not hit points and damage, the game is modeling your 20mm shell hitting the wing spar and calculating how much force it can take. ( I like to imagine that patch notes are actively trolling for Top Secret info at this point. "New yankee plane turn speed reduced by 15% because it is poopy plane made of waif underwear. Open to revising if presented evidence."
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Aug 29, 2023 18:26
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its still hit points but with extra steps 
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Due to War Thunders devs mostly relying on official documentation for all of their vehicles, that is exactly what's happening. Wasn't a problem when it was a WW2 game, but now...
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Aug 29, 2023 18:28
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Sashimi posted:I think its simcade, like Gran Turismo or Forza are compared to racing sims like Assetto Corsa or iRacing. luckily their forums got you covered on the documentation front
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Aug 29, 2023 18:28
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A Festivus Miracle posted:If your autoloader on your T-72 explodes, does the crew end up hamburger or is it a survivable event for the crew? I know the Abrams is specifically designed so that an explosion like (hopefully) doesn't reduce the crew to charred gristle but I'm not versed on the survivability features of a T-72. Figure 4 is autoloader so if it goes, everything else goes:  On the other hand, autoloader carousel is pretty deep inside the hull so if anything penetrates that far crew is pretty much hosed, ammo detonation or not. Ammo exploding just makes identifying remains harder. Or easier. Also, Leopards (both 1 and 2) also have ammo storage in the front hull so if that goes boom, tank and crew go boom as well.
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Aug 29, 2023 18:32
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PinheadSlim posted:Due to War Thunders devs mostly relying on official documentation for all of their vehicles, that is exactly what's happening. The World of Tanks developers also talked about that. World of Tanks is a game where the most modern tanks are from the early Cold War era, so it's largely all declassified stuff, and it's much more arcadey than War Thunder, so they can just wing a lot of the stuff. That's not to say they do: they employ a full department of researchers who basically live in national archives, researching stuff for the developers. A year or so ago they released World of Tanks: Modern Armour on the consoles, which includes things like the M1 Abrams and the T-72BU (also known as the T-90), and when I got the chance to interview the devs I asked how this changed their process. They laughed it off by saying that yeah it's pretty different, because for the older stuff you could just go to the archives to read anything and everything about the Tiger II or whatever, but for some reason countries aren't too thrilled if someone asks them for a copy of their modern tank's schematics and details, so they're basically not even trying and instead just making it up.
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Aug 29, 2023 18:33
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Toxic Mental posted:I mean don't get me wrong, he's not a bad guy at all, I think we agree on most stuff overall, just not the "we should put all Republican voters against the wall" stuff might be a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle overboard. Just change "voters" to "politicians" and I think we can make a deal.
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Aug 29, 2023 18:34
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A Festivus Miracle posted:If your autoloader on your T-72 explodes, does the crew end up hamburger or is it a survivable event for the crew? I know the Abrams is specifically designed so that an explosion like (hopefully) doesn't reduce the crew to charred gristle but I'm not versed on the survivability features of a T-72.  The ammunition is right below you, it will explode upwards, you will not survive if you are still there.
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Aug 29, 2023 18:41
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The Locator posted:Just change "voters" to "politicians" and I think we can make a deal. Aww mum. Do we have to?
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Aug 29, 2023 18:42
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Shout out to the BI devs that got arrested in Greece while collecting reference material for Arma 3. Don't take photos near military installations.
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Aug 29, 2023 18:44
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I didn't know abrams and lep had a crew of four, is the fourth the loader I presume
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Aug 29, 2023 18:46
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Sashimi posted:The article said its possible there have been no crew losses. *FSB intern with a copy of photoshop* Safely evacuated? No, crew losses!
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Aug 29, 2023 18:46
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Zippy the Bummer posted:I didn't know abrams and lep had a crew of four, is the fourth the loader I presume Yes, The Abrams, Challenger, and Leopard all retain a manual human loader. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Aug 29, 2023 |
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Aug 29, 2023 18:48
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Switzerland to deliver 1 (one) remote-controlled demining machine to Ukraine. https://www.admin.ch/gov/en/start/documentation/media-releases.msg-id-97529.html
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Aug 29, 2023 19:24
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beer_war posted:Switzerland to deliver 1 (one) remote-controlled demining machine to Ukraine.
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Aug 29, 2023 19:31
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Jimlit posted:I can't imagine the onion of delusion you would have to build yourself to assume that kind of risk, but I guess clout is king. Most people aren't really aware that what they have is classified tbh. It's a big scare word but most/all of the poo poo that's leaked has been on the same level of 'classified' as a guy in the service posting where his new duty station is. It's, in the US parlance, literally 'Controlled Unclassified Information'. It's stuff that's reasonably deemed to not have a serious security risk if its released to the public, but still isn't actually cleared for it because it hasn't gone through the declassification process. The Eurofighter manual that got 'leaked' is for a specific and now decommissioned developmental aircraft variant for the Italians, and has apparently been freely downloadable on the internet for years, apparently. The guy who posted it is probably just some rando plane nerd who found it and went 'omg this plane is cool, I wonder if they'll add it to my favorite game War Thunder?  '
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Aug 29, 2023 19:34
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beer_war posted:Switzerland to deliver 1 (one) remote-controlled demining machine to Ukraine. Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag.
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Aug 29, 2023 19:36
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. 
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Aug 29, 2023 19:37
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. Oh sweet zombie jesus! 
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Aug 29, 2023 19:41
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. Gas this thread
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Aug 29, 2023 19:47
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. Lordy
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Aug 29, 2023 19:52
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag.  we're done here, folks.
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Aug 29, 2023 19:52
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. bahahahhahaha
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Aug 29, 2023 19:53
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. So you're saying on balance it's neutral?
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Aug 29, 2023 19:55
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. 
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Aug 29, 2023 19:57
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. Lol. ...but are we absolutely certain that UAF is allowed to use this demining vehicle to remove Russian mines, not just their own? And use it somewhere else than on parades and while training with dummies?
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Aug 29, 2023 20:02
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. 
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Aug 29, 2023 20:03
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. lol
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Aug 29, 2023 20:07
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Der Kyhe posted:Lol.
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Aug 29, 2023 20:11
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A Festivus Miracle posted:If your autoloader on your T-72 explodes, does the crew end up hamburger or is it a survivable event for the crew? I know the Abrams is specifically designed so that an explosion like (hopefully) doesn't reduce the crew to charred gristle but I'm not versed on the survivability features of a T-72. Unless the crew escapes before it happened, your odds of surviving a turret toss are virtually nonexistent
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Aug 29, 2023 20:14
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. 
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Aug 29, 2023 20:23
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 I'm completely speechless. 
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Aug 29, 2023 20:34
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beer_war posted:Switzerland to deliver 1 (one) remote-controlled demining machine to Ukraine.  Russia broke Swiss neutrality lmao Even the loving Nazis didn't do that Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. Goldmine
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Aug 29, 2023 20:35
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag. 
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Aug 29, 2023 20:50
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Gervasius posted:On the other hand, autoloader carousel is pretty deep inside the hull so if anything penetrates that far crew is pretty much hosed, ammo detonation or not. Ammo exploding just makes identifying remains harder. Or easier. The lower strake of the side armor on a T-72 is 20mm of rolled steel at 60 degrees. 30mm can get through that, and so can the 25mm on a Bradley. What's behind it? The fuel tank. On top of that is the ammo.
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Aug 29, 2023 20:50
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TulliusCicero posted:
Tbf its not like Russia has a lot of shiny gold to keep the Swiss sweet
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Aug 29, 2023 20:51
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ishikabibble posted:Most people aren't really aware that what they have is classified tbh. They've expanded to include planes such as the Su-24 and F-14 and IIRC they just introduced the F-16. It seems very likely they'll be adding all modern fighting vehicles within the next few years
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Aug 29, 2023 20:58
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Disco Pope posted:Switzerland? That's a huge plus, but also a red flag.  This has to be a thread title somewhere- if not here, then on, I dunno, the GBS Switzerland thread or something.
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