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Chemtrailologist posted:Do these people even exist, or are they just for "states rights" when Democrats have control of the federal government? Search your heart
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Chemtrailologist posted:Do these people even exist, or are they just for "states rights" when Democrats have control of the federal government? Hell, even the original "state's rights" Confederates cheerfully disregarded the rights of any states but theirs anyway (hence the Fugitive Slave Act compelling Northern states to help them kidnap people). It's never been more than a convenient lie.
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MadDogMike posted:Hell, even the original "state's rights" Confederates cheerfully disregarded the rights of any states but theirs anyway (hence the Fugitive Slave Act compelling Northern states to help them kidnap people). It's never been more than a convenient lie. The confederate constitution literally codified fewer states rights than the original This is always ignored, much like the many declarations of secession that amount to We Are Doing This Because We Are Extremely Racist And loving Love Chattel Slavery Of Black People
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Aug 30, 2023 23:06
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Chemtrailologist posted:Do these people even exist, or are they just for "states rights" when Democrats have control of the federal government? NPR constantly interviews voters after every election that happens and they constantly admit to voting for one party if the other party has too much power. Morons essentially.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:None of them do on their website. Although I believe that the GOP governor of VA is going to run for re-election on a platform of a specific abortion ban which would be a massive mistake on his part.
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Aug 30, 2023 23:16
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So what are people thinking for Mitch, do people think he'll survive to see 2024, or that he'll be basking in a lake of fire by then?
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Aug 30, 2023 23:46
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I hope he holds on long enough for me to learn to Salsa dance.
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Aug 31, 2023 00:05
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i can't even remember, how did covid vaccine hesitancy become a mainstream part of the rightwing beliefs? i remember trump being non-committal, but not vocally hostile. was it just voices like alex jones getting no strong opposition from other right wing figures? It wasn't so much the vaccine itself as the mandates. The government requiring you to do anything is the mark of the Beast, and it wasn't long before they just became opposed to the vaccine in general, because that's a simpler message. Of course, due to the nature of incredibly infectious diseases, vaccine hesitancy only increased the need to crack down, so it's a vicious cycle.
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Aug 31, 2023 00:08
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Skex posted:Russian propaganda is my bet. "We couldn't possibly be this stupid, it must be some kind of foreign plot" seems like a hell of a take to just put out there. I personally believe that Americans are a fully capable people who can do dumb poo poo by themselves
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Aug 31, 2023 00:31
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Mitch McConnell retiring and/or dropping dead during a press conference would be hugely devastating to the GOP, he's one of the biggest reasons that the GOP was able to delay their great reckoning for nearly 20 years, and has stolen a presidency and SCOTUS seats for them McConnell helped the Republicans keep up the masquerade of being a serious political party instead of a criminal organization pretending to be one, but Trump has inadvertently exposed them as fraudsters I hope that the last thing McConnell sees before he dies are investigators looking into his personal affairs to see exactly what he knew about Trump's connections back in 2016
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Aug 31, 2023 00:37
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zoux posted:MItch turned off again I saw this on a chyron walking by a TV on CNN today. I didn't realize it happened while being asked about reelection. That's...kind of an inconvenient time to have a minor stroke.
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Aug 31, 2023 00:39
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Trazz posted:Mitch McConnell retiring and/or dropping dead during a press conference would be hugely devastating to the GOP, he's one of the biggest reasons that the GOP was able to delay their great reckoning for nearly 20 years, and has stolen a presidency and SCOTUS seats for them Thankfully since the Dems retook the Senate they have been able to get a bunch of judges confirmed.
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Aug 31, 2023 00:42
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Mooseontheloose posted:I just don't like looking at people who feel like they might die soon, it unsettles me. I feel like I am gawking at something I wouldn't want anyone else to see. He can go home whenever he likes. Unlike Feinstein he seems lucid enough to make that decision if he wants to.
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FlamingLiberal posted:They all know that abortion is a loser issue for them so they are frantically avoiding the question at all. For Pence especially to not want to have a clear position shows how toxic it is. Slightly different, he's planning to use a proposed 15-week ban to campaign for Republicans to retake control of the State Senate. He's term limited and looking for something else after 2025 anyway, and I suspect that's part of his calculus: sure, pledging an abortion ban seems likely to be a huge mistake that will actually drive Democratic turnout and potentially lose him one or both chambers, but loudly supporting abortion bans will be a litmus test in any primary he runs in a few years from now, so he has to do it.
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Aug 31, 2023 00:52
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Mike N Eich posted:Man that video of McConnell got me the closest to feeling bad for who is in the running for one of the most evil living human beings. He is just so clearly not well, confused and having an episode. The most clear moment in realizing this is an 80 year old man who is as fragile as any other person. Counterpoint: gently caress McConnell I hope he's suffering. Do you know how many people he's hurt? gently caress that old piece of poo poo. Also LOL he's only 81? I thought that son of a bitch was like 96.
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FlamingLiberal posted:They all know that abortion is a loser issue for them so they are frantically avoiding the question at all. For Pence especially to not want to have a clear position shows how toxic it is. He can't run for reelection. Virginial law does not allow governors to serve consecutive terms. Youngkin won his election by whipping up frenzy that Virginia's schools were on the decline because of excessive political correctness, which scared just enough of the try-hard parents in the DC suburbs who are obsessed with their kids getting into Ivy League schools. He also ran against empty suit hack Terry McAuliffe), and had the advantage of Virginia doing off year elections . He still barely squeaked out the victory. But that election was probably a bit of an aberration. Virginia turns more blue every election . So he needs to start appealing to the national GOP base, because he probably isn't winning a Senate Seat or anything else of significance in Virginia.
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Trump was knowingly downplaying Covid as early as February 7th, 2020. He was lying from the outset and the right lapped it up and them the virus spread wildly. quote:On the morning of February 7th, the president mentioned, without supporting evidence, that Covid-19 could dissipate with the arrival of warmer weather, much like the seasonal flu. Trump tweeted that the "virus hopefully becomes weaker with warmer weather, and then gone." He was explicitly told of the gravity of the situation 10 days earlier, on January 28th. quote:President Trump’s head popped up during his top-secret intelligence briefing in the Oval Office on Jan. 28 when the discussion turned to the coronavirus outbreak in China. Trump himself explicitly politized the virus on February 28th, 2023. quote:“Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus,” Trump said. “They have no clue, they can't even count their votes in Iowa.” He has the blood of hundreds of thousands on his hands. deoju fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Aug 31, 2023 |
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shimmy shimmy posted:"We couldn't possibly be this stupid, it must be some kind of foreign plot" seems like a hell of a take to just put out there. I personally believe that Americans are a fully capable people who can do dumb poo poo by themselves Putin's paws are all over the GOP, yeah these divisions existed before but he and his agents are deeply involved in the propaganda. This isn't just Americans being our typical stupid selves. This is a worldwide conflict between fascists and everyone else. And if some of y'all don't pull your heads out of your rear end the Fash are going to win. No Putin didn't create the divisions in the United States, that was the billionaires who founded the right-wing think tanks and took advantage of the crack in the New Deal coalition that LBJ created when he shoved the CRA down congresses throats. But he and his authoritarian allies definitely took advantage of and leveraged those divisions. And the Republicans turned a blind eye to it because they are craven power hungry dipshits. Notice how all of there attacks on Biden are about Ukraine, specifically the corrupt Putin puppet prosecutor who they are now trotting out as a witness. Now I'm not saying that without Russian propaganda we'd all be singing kumbayah and passing single payer healthcare. But to pretend that it's not a factor is delusional. Russia and Putin specifically have been deeply intertwined with Trump world from well before 2016, to the point where the only bank that would loan him money was DeutschBank which might as well be Russian Oligarch and Mob bank. There was the election interference, the propaganda, the literal espionage against an American citizen as well as their funding of the NRA, we have multiple GOP Senators spending the 4th of July in Moscow meeting Putin. That's not even getting into Russian funding of Brexit and countless other right-wing movements world wide. Understand my assertion isn't that Russia and Putin are responsible for everything wrong with the United States currently. It's not like the Republicans weren't scumbags before 2016. But this is exactly what I'd be doing if I were Putin and it's naive to ignore the mountains of evidence of Russian propaganda and influence on the MAGAbase. I mean where the gently caress do you think all of this defund Ukraine war nonsense is coming from cause it ain't the old right. If Putin wasn't a major contributor and agitator of anti-vax sentiment I guaranty he wishes he was and even if he and intelligence services didn't start it they definitely amplified it. Seriously Tuckems has been the mouthpiece for the forces that Putin is leading. Putin fingerprints are over Trump and his MAGAt enablers and it's insane to turn a blind eye to that reality. Oh and final reminder the Mueller investigation was all Republicans.
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CNN, ABC News and NBC News have each reported that upon hearing about McConnell's latest freezing incident, President Joe Biden called Mitch a "friend" and a "good friend" and that he (Joe Biden) would "try to get in touch with him later (McConnell) this afternoon".quote:https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/30/politics/mitch-mcconnell/index.html quote:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-mitch-mcconnell-appears-freeze-kentucky-event-rcna102583 quote:https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mcconnell-appears-freeze-press-conference/story?id=102761372 There is a also a video of Joe Biden making those remarks posted on the Youtube channel of WFAA (a television station licensed to Dallas, Texas, United States, serving the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex as an affiliate of ABC) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKNYcYYvfv4 Assuming that Joe Biden did in fact make the remarks that he was reported to have made, the newsworthiness of those remarks arise from the following: (a) If Joe Biden was sincere in making those remarks and does indeed view Mitch McConnell as a good friend of his, one would have to re-evaluate either one's assessment of McConnell's character, or re-evaluate one's assessment of Joe Biden's character and suitability to be the President of the United States. (b) Alternatively, if Joe Biden was insincere in making those remarks, one would have to re-evaluate the sincerity of Joe Biden's other public-facing remarks, including his campaign promises and policy pledges, and accordingly his character and suitability to be the President of the United States. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Now, to be fair, I do think it is considered gauche if a sitting president says "Yeah, I hope that turtley bastard dies stuck on his back soon" in public
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Aug 31, 2023 02:08
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You have to be stupid to think that Biden should be anything other than courteous and supportive of Mitch when he is obviously stroking out on live TV. Him saying anything bad about a guy having a medical event will only paint Biden in a negative light, and add fuel to the calls for Biden himself to step down because of his age.
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fizzy posted:CNN, ABC News and NBC News have each reported that upon hearing about McConnell's latest freezing incident, President Joe Biden called Mitch a "friend" and a "good friend" and that he (Joe Biden) would "try to get in touch with him later (McConnell) this afternoon". or (c) Not waste time and energy trying to overevaulate some random remarks to the press in order to own my enemies.
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fizzy posted:(b) Alternatively, if Joe Biden was insincere in making those remarks, one would have to re-evaluate the sincerity of Joe Biden's u in public-facing remarks,
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fizzy posted:CNN, ABC News and NBC News have each reported that upon hearing about McConnell's latest freezing incident, President Joe Biden called Mitch a "friend" and a "good friend" and that he (Joe Biden) would "try to get in touch with him later (McConnell) this afternoon". This is a bit of a false choice, and even if it were the case that these were the only two choices in how to analyze and interpret the situation; your choices as presented aren't the only ways they can be interpreted. For one has there ever been an honest politician? The idea that these statements have any relevance to Biden's campaign pledges (when his record for both good and for ill speaks much louder than words) seems a bit far fetched to me. And maybe you're not American, afterall I am merely a Canadian, but even I am aware it is deeply embedded within the "game" of US politics that even bitterly opposed politicians are "good ol' friends who mothers know each other." and means not much at all. Lincoln was good friends with a few Confederate politicians for example, and this had no bearing on his leadership during the Civil War, other than to bring the war to as swift a decisive close as possible via overwhelming victory on the battlefield. "Neither of the above" essentially. You need to read up more on US history and politics, particularly around the enactment of the Civil Rights Act, pretty sure LBJ was good friends with quite a few awful people (and was awful himself) but didn't stop him from enacting some pretty darn good domestic policy.
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Log off dude (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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fizzy posted:CNN, ABC News and NBC News have each reported that upon hearing about McConnell's latest freezing incident, President Joe Biden called Mitch a "friend" and a "good friend" and that he (Joe Biden) would "try to get in touch with him later (McConnell) this afternoon".
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Randalor posted:So what are people thinking for Mitch, do people think he'll survive to see 2024, or that he'll be basking in a lake of fire by then? He’ll be dead before the year is out. Source: me, a NeuroPsych APP
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Sir, this is Mitch McConnell's drycleaning service...
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Randalor posted:So what are people thinking for Mitch, do people think he'll survive to see 2024, or that he'll be basking in a lake of fire by then? I'm thinkin' I got a bottle of bourbon with his name on it.
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fizzy posted:Assuming that Joe Biden did in fact make the remarks that he was reported to have made, the newsworthiness of those remarks arise from the following: Newsworthy if you assume Biden hasn’t made similar past statements, maybe. Because you don’t have to look far to find a shitload of past NoJoe content for exactly this “bridge the divide” approach. It’s extremely on brand so it’s only “newsworthy” because President said a Thing. And of course, just because modern Republicans often can get away with showing no class or even benefit, doesn’t prove that Democrats will.
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With Mitch obviously priming up a massive stroke sooner than later, who's poised in the GOP to take control as senate party leader? I'm sure at least a half dozen guys think they should get it but they're all probably guys that no one else likes (Cruz, etc.).
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xeria posted:With Mitch obviously priming up a massive stroke sooner than later, who's poised in the GOP to take control as senate party leader? I'm sure at least a half dozen guys think they should get it but they're all probably guys that no one else likes (Cruz, etc.). Probably one of the other old assholes like Chuck Grassley or John Cornyn. Of course you're right that guys like Cruz and Cotton will probably make a play and then bow out just as fast.
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haveblue posted:Trump was also the one insisting that covid was not a big deal and everyone should just get back to normal "It'll wash through" It was no big deal. Even though Covid deaths outnumbered opioid deaths (the real serious problem) during the same time period. Not to undermine opioid abuse as a serious problem. Just pointing out the difference in the rhetoric.
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xeria posted:With Mitch obviously priming up a massive stroke sooner than later, who's poised in the GOP to take control as senate party leader? I'm sure at least a half dozen guys think they should get it but they're all probably guys that no one else likes (Cruz, etc.). unless he strokes out completely before stepping down, mitch will witness, in the very last part of his life, the completion of the cycle — where he is an obsolete relic, and the deranged True Believers of all the nonsense they crafted, perpetuated (and managed from above) filtered up into leadership and become the ideology he'll be replaced by whichever toadie best hits the Mediocrity Center, where they're 1. enough of a deranged grifter weirdo to pass all the popular conservative purity tests 2. enthusiastically performative enough to do all the dishonest weird poo poo you need to do at that level 3. not so far into it that they have TRULY radioactive poo poo boiling under the surface, like matt gaetz so someone in the same moron hack category as, say, jim jordan i hope mitch is conscious of this fact and i hope he is despondent about it for every remaining moment of his life
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Kavros posted:unless he strokes out completely before stepping down, mitch will witness, in the very last part of his life, the completion of the cycle — where he is an obsolete relic, and the deranged True Believers of all the nonsense they crafted, perpetuated (and managed from above) filtered up into leadership and become the ideology Looking forward to Minority Leader Tommy Tuberville
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Angry_Ed posted:Probably one of the other old assholes like Chuck Grassley or John Cornyn. Won't be Grassley. He's not mentally sound enough to hold up under that much more scrutiny.
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My money's on John Barrasso. That was him whispering to Mitch when he had his first episode at the podium. He's been Mitch's underling for the last fifteen years, and that snake is itching for Senate leadership.
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Whomever it is, it's unlikely to be anyone as competently evil as Mitch. And I agree, I hope he knows the morons are in charge as his life ends.
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