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No Mods No Masters posted:I get that green lady was pissed and not being super rational in that conversation but I did enjoy her implication that you have to have fought in the war in order to be worthy of being in politics. Seems like a very good and democratic idea there In the first episode the New Republic space cops are getting ready to detain Sabine on the governor's say-so simply because she didn't go to some ceremony. That smells a little authoritarian to me.
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XYZAB posted:Hera giving me serious Marty Feldman vibes in that Mon Mothma scene like: I thought I was the only one that noticed her already-distracting neon contacts were going adrift.
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Aug 31, 2023 04:17
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No Mods No Masters posted:I guess if I'm looking forward to anything at this point it's seeing what kind of twisted weirdo this ezra guy is thought I was in the flash thread for a second
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Penitent posted:In the first episode the New Republic space cops are getting ready to detain Sabine on the governor's say-so simply because she didn't go to some ceremony. That smells a little authoritarian to me. Chewing it over now I'm appreciating more and more that hera might have actually articulated disney's first specific suggestion for an improvement to the republic there, and it was basically "only Troops should be allowed to vote and hold office"
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Aug 31, 2023 04:20
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No Mods No Masters posted:Chewing it over now I'm appreciating more and more that hera might have actually articulated disney's first specific suggestion for an improvement to the republic there, and it was basically "only Troops should be allowed to vote and hold office" Yeah, I like that implication. It's also an overt call out to the idea that some of the ruling class just waited to see who was going to come out on top in the struggle between the Empire and the Rebellion.
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Aug 31, 2023 04:24
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I read that as Hera saying, “You have no goddam idea how the Imperials think and operate, so don’t tell me what’s what” rather going full Starship Troopers.
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Aug 31, 2023 04:39
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I think ezra will have fallen to the dark side and sabine is gonna have to fight him while ahsoka fights both those dark jedi at once.
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Madurai posted:I thought I was the only one that noticed her already-distracting neon contacts were going adrift. There is no reason for her to be phosphorescent green and electric neon orange in this series. It’s such a weird style choice to paint her in a day-glo colour palette in live action when everyone else is so subdued. She (and her eyes in close-up shots) pop out way too much as a result.
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Also I just realized Hera and Kanan are the progenitors of an entire slave race. Jason/Jacen/Jeigh’sin: 
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XYZAB posted:Also I just realized Hera and Kanan are the progenitors of an entire slave race. They can go back to being eaten by Whangdoodles any time they want 
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Marsupial Ape posted:I read that as Hera saying, “You have no goddam idea how the Imperials think and operate, so don’t tell me what’s what” rather going full Starship Troopers. I read it as,"You've got no convictions at all and you'd just as willingly serve in the Empire as the Republic so long as you got to keep your high station, gently caress you t  t", rather than,"Only ARE TROOPS should be in power!"Whether it was a fair accusation or not is another matter, as this guy's perspective really may just be a matter of,"This General can't accept the war is over and is trying to eat up resources we could be using for reconstruction to go on a wild goose chase". Of course though we have meta knowledge that this is not the case, this guy might just legit think she's a relic who can't make the shift to peacetime. It being Star Wars, I'm fully expecting a reveal that he's a knowing and enthusiastic bad guy working with Morgan & Baylan etc though. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Aug 31, 2023 |
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Spookydonut posted:I think ezra will have fallen to the dark side and sabine is gonna have to fight him while ahsoka fights both those dark jedi at once. Could easily see this honestly. I've seen the theory that Marrok is Ezra, I don't feel like inquisitor quite fits, however I loved Mara Jade finding and fighting dark Kyle in Mysteries of the Sith to win him back to the light side, and would probably enjoy a similar sort of dynamic here. It's also an important theme in the throne room fight in ROTJ, but there's a bit more of a strained relationship there, with Luke never really knowing his father. And then yeah let Ahsoka clown on some fools some more, it's her show to shine. E: Also I don't take Hera as being the type to read up on much ideological theory or anything. She seems more interested in getting people places, and using her valour if she needs to get around the republic. Jehde fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Aug 31, 2023 |
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Yeah, it would have been a wiser decision to have Hera ask “have you ever lived under Imperial oppression?”. I won’t deny that it’s easy to read “did you fight in the war” as chuddy and jingoistic.
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Aug 31, 2023 05:43
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She brought feels to military briefing, and no proof.
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Marsupial Ape posted:Yeah, it would have been a wiser decision to have Hera ask “have you ever lived under Imperial oppression?”. I won’t deny that it’s easy to read “did you fight in the war” as chuddy and jingoistic. He was basically subtly provoking her into heated responses.
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Aug 31, 2023 06:01
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Hera loves fascism now and jacen will grow up to be space Hitler just like the books
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Aug 31, 2023 06:07
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Let the one who hasn't admitted that civilian rule is a fatally flawed concept in a heated gamer moment cast the first stone
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Aug 31, 2023 06:09
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Hera could have said "We tracked a stolen super star destroyer hyperdrive to this system"
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Galaga Galaxian posted:He was basically subtly provoking her into heated responses. Is he the new Fey'la?
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Ahsoka is fine. But Hera is completely miscast and poorly written. In Rebels, Hera was the ball of anger and tenacity who excelled as a pilot for those reasons. And while it's perhaps not that important, she was a bit on the shorter side. But in Ahsoka, she's this tall, lanky good natured maternal figure who comes off as laid back and philosophical. Now sure, she could have matured since Rebels, and having a kid changes people, but nothing about the performance tracks with the character in Rebels. I can accept everyone else. Obviously, Ahsoka is consistent, Sabine is broadly accurate. But Hera is just wrong. And it's kind of detracts from the overall series. I even went back and watched some later Rebels episodes to compare, and it's simply not the same character. Also, Saw was right. Love Rat fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Aug 31, 2023 |
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Spookydonut posted:Hera could have said "We tracked a stolen super star destroyer hyperdrive to this system" I mean... yeah! That's insane and absolutely the kind of thing they'd be sending people to investigate. "I put a tracker on it, it's there. Whatever their reason for having it, it's something we absolutely cannot let go uninvestigated/dealt with." Edit: You could still achieve the largely same result by having them reply,"Good point, but sending a General or the entire fleet to deal with this is overkill, we'll dispatch several fighters under the command of a Captain" (maybe a Major/Colonel?) and then because of logistics it is going to take like 3 days for them to get there and Ahsoka and Sabine can't wait and have to go in alone anyway. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Aug 31, 2023 |
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Love Rat posted:Ahsoka is fine. But Hera is completely miscast and poorly written. Hera is way more relaxed in the Alphabet Squadron books. Commanding a taskforce seems to have chilled her out
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I think it shows character development that being in a large organisation has taught her to rely on more people rather than just her immediate cell members with vague promises of other rebel cells helping sometimes too. But then ahsoka arrives and associative regression kicks in and she goes and investigates that shipyard herself.
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I hope she sends Zeb's space cops out there as backup
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The New Republic Space Cops are gonna run the Eye of Sion’s tabs.
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Stegosnaurlax posted:Hera is way more relaxed in the Alphabet Squadron books. Commanding a taskforce seems to have chilled her out Those books any good? For Star Wars novels, I mean.
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Wonder what Hera's Dad thinks about the New Republic and if Ryloth had to become a member planet. lmao.
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Marsupial Ape posted:Those books any good? For Star Wars novels, I mean. Not really, it's really angsty. But it covers a portion of the story nothing else does, Operation Cinder
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Spookydonut posted:I think ezra will have fallen to the dark side and sabine is gonna have to fight him while ahsoka fights both those dark jedi at once. It would explain why Thrawn is running around still
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Wonder what Hera's Dad thinks about the New Republic and if Ryloth had to become a member planet. lmao. If they're abiding by the canon established in the novels (which they might not be - Filoni's already contradicted major events from novels and comics a few times in his new shows), Ryloth didn't become a member of the New Republic, but briefly let the Resistance have a base there between The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker.
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Spookydonut posted:I think ezra will have fallen to the dark side and sabine is gonna have to fight him while ahsoka fights both those dark jedi at once. My guess would be, the other galaxy doesn't have the force. Ezra has been living his best life in a hut like Yoda.
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Stegosnaurlax posted:My guess would be, the other galaxy doesn't have the force. Ezra has been living his best life in a hut like Yoda. Ezra excitedly races out to do what weirdo swamp hermits love most: wrestle astro-droids. Only to discover his worst nightmare waiting for him. Chopper.
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Hera should have sent Chopper with them. He gets poo poo done. Also need Chopper along with Huyang to just mock Sabine training even more.
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No Mods No Masters posted:Ahsoka: Tortures prisoners Spookydonut posted:I think ezra will have fallen to the dark side and sabine is gonna have to fight him while ahsoka fights both those dark jedi at once.
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thrawn527 posted:This was one part that bugged me about the episode. That one Senator, or whatever, saying, "But they've all sworn oaths of loyalty!" Oh, well I guess that settles it then, case closed. No one has ever lied. New Republic are liberals, OP.
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LinkesAuge posted:Lucas probably had "American Revolutionaries" in mind as his "Rebels" but in a complex (modern) society it's obvious that it's a lot more likely to get the grey area we experienced with 20th century revolutions. he had the viet cong in mind
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Megillah Gorilla posted:New Republic are liberals, OP. nah they are morons trying to bring back the republic without trying to fix any of the problems that caused the downfall of the old republic
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Surely if we reach out to the Imperials, in the spirit of cooperation and friendship, they'll return the sentiment and work with us for the betterment of all? Meanwhile, the Empire is sending out their version of Mitch McConnell.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Meanwhile, the Empire is sending out their version of Mitch McConnell. https://i.imgur.com/B7Ail2B.mp4
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