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Sad that such a historically cool studio just ends at its lowest point.
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drat, that’s sad. RIP. Also Jesus having to put out that statement and when the general news of the gaming world would be on Starfield reviews. Pretty scummy from higher ups at Embracer.
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Aug 31, 2023 17:54
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Saints Row 2 was sick as hell. Such a shame they ended up here.
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Aug 31, 2023 18:02
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I mean, sucks to hear but this can't be a surprise. Their last financial success was in 2015, that's a long time for a studio to shoot blanks, even if 'executive meddling' is the core reason they wound up in that situation. Their business life probably depended on Saint's Row hitting it out of the park and even being doomed at the start with a year of Epic Exclusivity, I can't imagine it woulda done too much better on Steam with how much bad press the release version of the game got. And I never heard a peep if they turned it around or left it to rot on the vine, so people didn't even care enough to go back and look again when it dropped on Steam for better OR for worse. Woof. I hope everyone at Violition a life in happier places, their troubles brief and their future more fulfilling. I'll remember you as you were, not as you currently are.
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Aug 31, 2023 18:05
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It's a shame. I feel like I'm the only person in the world who liked the new Saints Row game.
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Aug 31, 2023 18:20
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The Kins posted:From LinkedIn: Embracer's consequences continue. the final GeoMod
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Aug 31, 2023 18:35
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Sic Transit Gloria Mundi.
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Aug 31, 2023 20:29
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Randalor posted:It's a shame. I feel like I'm the only person in the world who liked the new Saints Row game. When you got into a groove it was fine. Playing on ps4 at least, it took a while for you to find that groove. It....needed a few months of patches before it was ok.
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Aug 31, 2023 20:32
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God, this was the first one going down this year that really hurt, even if Freespace's Volition is gone...
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Aug 31, 2023 21:10
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Oh, apparently things are just going to be Worse under the Embracer umbrella today, somehow. https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/report-embracer-has-made-layoffs-at-gearbox-publishing
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Aug 31, 2023 21:36
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it was always clear embracer’s shopping spree would end badly but I’ll admit that I didn’t expect it to happen this fast
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Aug 31, 2023 21:40
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Embracer was really counting on that Saudi money, huh
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Aug 31, 2023 21:43
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Does anyone know what the Saudi project(s?) were?
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Aug 31, 2023 21:49
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Rinkles posted:Does anyone know what the Saudi project(s?) were? As far as I recall, it was an expected multi-billion investment from SA that just... didn't happen, abruptly, and they'd already started spending like they had it before locking in the contract. And now everyone's feeling the pinch down the line at Embracer. edit: 2 billion, and the deal collapsed "overnight". quote:In the May note, Embracer said that the parties had reached a verbal commitment in October 2022 that would have resulted in more than $2 billion "in contracted development revenue over a period of six years." claw game handjob fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Aug 31, 2023 |
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Aug 31, 2023 21:50
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the saudis are moving a bunch of money in and out of their various investments it seems like. wwe just took a hit because of that too, they pulled some money out of them and into a mma org (PFL)
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Aug 31, 2023 21:53
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beginning to think that the saudi royal family aren't True Gamers after all
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claw game handjob posted:As far as I recall, it was an expected multi-billion investment from SA that just... didn't happen, abruptly, and they'd already started spending like they had it before locking in the contract. And now everyone's feeling the pinch down the line at Embracer. They did get one investment from SA which is what the initial spree was based on. Then the second one which was meant to make that spree sustainable is what got yanked. E: Youtuber and former Volition employee Chip Cheezum posted in the games chat thread. Chip Cheezum posted:So we knew that the corporate restructuring was making things precarious, but over the last few months I believe there were talks to not shutter Volition due to the fact that we were now under Gearbox, had a bunch of new projects potentially in the works, etc. It honestly seemed like we were one of the studios more likely to make it out unscathed. And then we hear there's a very important all-hands meeting earlier this morning and there are some people in the meeting that you usually don't see unless some poo poo's going down. And right away the first thing said was "Volition is being shut down effective immediately". njsykora fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Aug 31, 2023 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:beginning to think that the saudi royal family aren't True Gamers after all Sad
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Aug 31, 2023 22:02
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don't the saudis own metal slug now 
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:don't the saudis own metal slug now They own SNK yeah.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:don't the saudis own metal slug now Yeah, SNK. Efforts to demonstrate to King of Fighters fans why they should find literally any other game did not go well.
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Aug 31, 2023 22:18
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:don't the saudis own metal slug now Don’t worry they won’t own it for much longer. RIP
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Aug 31, 2023 22:21
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:don't the saudis own metal slug now Yeah. Not with Embracer though but who knows if that makes any real difference.
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Aug 31, 2023 22:42
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And the timing of this shutdown sure is coincidental https://twitter.com/voidburger/status/1697364552483016857?s=61&t=-vp9P7i8Kl2W3uKiLPEWrA
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Aug 31, 2023 22:58
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Regalingualius posted:And the timing of this shutdown sure is coincidental
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Regalingualius posted:And the timing of this shutdown sure is coincidental Yeah them doing these shutdowns and layoffs before having to pay another month of benefits is much more likely than them trying to smokescreen the closures under Starfield's release gumming up the news. 
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Yeah layoff timing for companies not tied to Microsoft or Zenimax have like, no plausible connection to starfield lmao. I guess it that team was working on a starfield, but I doubt that
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Sep 1, 2023 08:35
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The embargo on Starfield reviews was public knowledge and companies time their bad news to big events so that it gets overshadowed *all the time*, I don't see why we've decided that it's suddenly weird to make that inference in this case. Certainly, denying coverage for an extra month is another and most certainly the primary reason, but Embracer certainly doesn't mind that Starfield is taking heat off them.
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Yeah its super common for companies to use big events to bury bad news in both industry and politics. Its not some grand master plan, it's basic media strategy.
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Because every day they delay is significant cost. Saints Row just released a dlc too, I think, so releasing that, seeing sales, and closing if they weren't happy makes a lot more sense than burying it with starfield reviews lol This is too big, imo, to tie it the reviews of a large game release.
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Also I'm sure someone at Embracer is getting a bonus for a two birds one stone sort of thing.
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Studio posted:Because every day they delay is significant cost. Saints Row just released a dlc too, I think, so releasing that, seeing sales, and closing if they weren't happy makes a lot more sense than burying it with starfield reviews lol They released the last season pass DLC and the game on steam just days before the shutdown, yes.
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SAG-AFTRA seeks approval for second strike against video game companiesquote:With one strike already underway, SAG-AFTRA announced Friday that it will seek authorization for a second strike against the major video game companies. 
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Get their rear end
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I'd be curious to know exactly what the "protections from AI" are that they want in games. It would make sense to have prohibitions against using somebody's AI-trained voice-likeness or motion-likeness without their consent or compensation, though I suspect that is illegal anyway regardless of contract. If the ask is to just never use AI tools/generation in animation or voiceover, that seems like a non-starter.
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DancingMachine posted:I'd be curious to know exactly what the "protections from AI" are that they want in games. It would make sense to have prohibitions against using somebody's AI-trained voice-likeness or motion-likeness without their consent or compensation, though I suspect that is illegal anyway regardless of contract. If the ask is to just never use AI tools/generation in animation or voiceover, that seems like a non-starter. Likely similar protections the Writers want where they are not asked to "polish" some Ai generated garbage just so the Exec can say they are not writers and pay less.
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DancingMachine posted:It would make sense to have prohibitions against using somebody's AI-trained voice-likeness or motion-likeness without their consent or compensation, though I suspect that is illegal anyway regardless of contract.
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Rarity posted:Get their rear end
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SAG et al are welcome to try, but their last strike against video games took a year and didn't accomplish anything, so whatever, good luck.
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True. It is way easier to just move your voice acting to another anglophone country outside of their reach.
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