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amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

God, the loving Nice Guy vibes in this page is off the charts. 'Awww, look how kind Snout is to let her down gently! Isn't HE such a good person?' And Mookie hosed up the execution because this isn't a touching scene of someone confessing their love only to be rejected but still being friends. This is Idiota wanting to bang Snout right after the heels of the revelation that she was only using him. Why should anyone even explain themselves for saying no?

There's also something unsettling/misogynistic over how Idiota just has to calmly accept Snout telling her no while Arudak gets to act like a sadsack all the time because he misses having sex with his wife.

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Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

lmao

Bomrek
Oct 9, 2012
jfc
Edit: this whole thing has gotta be a hoax

Bomrek fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Sep 1, 2023

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

I just want to cuddle naked with you in a platonic fashion

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut
"gently caress me harder," says the person on top to the person on the bottom who looks more like they're taking a nap than fuckin' hard

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
Well, that's one way to wrap up the dangling threads from having abandoned literally everything you had planned for a character.

Pulsarcat
Feb 7, 2012

This is just all so badly done.

Arudak's issue was he wants to bring his wife back only to be told she loved another.
And that he got her killed when he decided to try Nazism as a hobby.

I mean, why would he be tempted by something he knows is fake? He's there to bring the real one back.
The dream world should have attempted to convince him that he had succeeded, only to fail because his "wife" keeps acting like a sex homunculus.
This could make him realize that he only valued her body and knew nothing of the real her.

And Idiota is somehow worse, she's such a nothing character that Mookie had to go back years worth of comics to find the one time she cuddled Snout and acted manipulative, and even then that just came out as she wants to gently caress Snout but feels bad about how she acted.

But the worst part is once again everything is about Snout, he's the one that solves everything, but in the laziest, zero stakes way imaginable.

Nothing required character growth or sacrifice, just saying "Let's be friends" to someone he's not interested in and doing his favourite thing in the world, waggling a piece of paper in someone's face.

Amazing.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Holy poo poo this is bad.

It reduces Idiota entirely to "Oh she had a crush on him or whatever". Nothing about the original overstepping of boundaries or even why she was doing it (which was NEVER indicated as any kind of love/lust). Of course in the process it also reduces all of her motivations- wanting to find the Legacy herself, her conflict with Arduak, any conflict she may have had with her fellow Ink Witches, etc.

Instead it's just all she needs is to be let down gently by the stupid guy.

Is it character assassination if you never had a character to start with? Or is it like an abortion thing?

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
NOTE: Main Ink Witch died on the way back to her home planet.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
It's tempting to think the comic has hit bottom but we still haven't seen Snouts or Corpsewifes challenge

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

RandomPauI posted:

It's tempting to think the comic has hit bottom but we still haven't seen Snouts or Corpsewifes challenge
Snout's Challenge is solving all his friends Challenges. Not a joke, it was mentioned in one of those diary updates years ago and why we're going though this. It's why all his friends had those black eyes and he had to draw them out into Challenge swooshes.

Snout doesn't get his own personal problems because he's the Perfect Special Boy.

MiracleFlare
Mar 27, 2012
Kaianda's Challenge was a retread of siren vines attacking her, but the power of friendship saved her again and then she drowned the bad guys. This is still a more satisfactory conclusion to her arc than whatever the gently caress's going on with the rest of the group.

I like to think that the entire time everyone's been watching their dream counterparts sucking and loving, she's been continuing to hold them underwater just so she has something to do

MiracleFlare fucked around with this message at 10:10 on Sep 1, 2023

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Hostile V posted:

"Last night she took her shirt off in her sleep for no reason and hugged her bare tits to my arm. I didn't get a boner but it kicked rear end."
thanks past me for timestamping just how long ago he tried to present this plot point/insinuate it was one.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Trapezium Dave posted:

Snout's Challenge is solving all his friends Challenges. Not a joke, it was mentioned in one of those diary updates years ago and why we're going though this. It's why all his friends had those black eyes and he had to draw them out into Challenge swooshes.

Snout doesn't get his own personal problems because he's the Perfect Special Boy.

One would think that forgetting that you were seeking to avenge your friends after shocking(?) revelations made them sad in favor of loving a bog hag would result in lingering guilt to be your Challenges T. Symbol, but what do I know of storytelling?

amigolupus fucked around with this message at 11:51 on Sep 1, 2023

GreenMetalSun
Oct 12, 2012
I love how they were like, 'It's fine that the bog hag was mean to us, we'll face even greater challenges in the Dream Realm', and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

This comic is gross.

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


I am not surprised. This is exactly what you get from a writer who is more interested in finishing the story than writing it. Idiota was supposed to have motivations, things relating to the coven, to the pages, to Arudak, to being given a nickname, but she got written like a predator and the author never got over it so this is all she gets. The bad thing was actually a good thing and stop thinking about it please, it's over, next story, dwarves.

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?

Howard Beale posted:

"gently caress me harder," says the person on top to the person on the bottom who looks more like they're taking a nap than fuckin' hard

It’s clearly a command by a disappointed lover giving good communication.

Drakyn
Dec 26, 2012

YF-23 posted:

The bad thing was actually a good thing and stop thinking about it please, it's over, next story, dwarves.

The Legacy of Dominic Deegan posted:

and another thing: youre not mad. please dont put in the internet that you got mad.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Howard Beale posted:

"gently caress me harder," says the person on top to the person on the bottom who looks more like they're taking a nap than fuckin' hard

Cemetry Gator posted:

It’s clearly a command by a disappointed lover giving good communication.

The best part about this is that Snout and Nega-Snout can't even hear her say it. We've seen from Dark Idiota screaming at regular Idiota that Snout can't hear them which is why he did The Face. The fact she can multitask to create subtitles for Snout while in the throes of passion is both highly absurd and an unintentional insult to Nega-Snout's ability as a lover. :lmao:

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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catlord posted:

Well, that's one way to wrap up the dangling threads from having abandoned literally everything you had planned for a character.

Yeah we are probably seeing this end in September, I think, he’s sprinting to the end now.

Crespolini
Mar 9, 2014

Why does Snout not wanna bang Idiota, by the way? Didn't we learn he keeps hulking out into a disgusting sex monster.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Lack of willingness on her part to get naked in a bog, presumably.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Hostile V posted:

thanks past me for timestamping just how long ago he tried to present this plot point/insinuate it was one.

Immediately followed by

PoptartsNinja posted:

Just a casual reminder that she doesn't even have a name.

:shepface:

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

And Snout STILL forgot to tell her he decided not to name her

Billy Gnosis
May 18, 2006

Now is the time for us to gather together and celebrate those things that we like and think are fun.
Its funny how a twist of "none of these people exist except in Snout's mind" would be supported by the entire comics run and not be completely out of left field

Like so much of the other characters are wrapped up in "how does my problems/emotions affect Snout"

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Crespolini posted:

Why does Snout not wanna bang Idiota, by the way? Didn't we learn he keeps hulking out into a disgusting sex monster.

Because people pointed out that the situation was gross and he doesn't want anyone to think about how it was gross anymore so see they are just friends and it's fine and over now

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Crespolini posted:

Why does Snout not wanna bang Idiota, by the way? Didn't we learn he keeps hulking out into a disgusting sex monster.

He only gets horny when he gets horny, showing that his relationships with every single woman he gets naked around other than the Incomparable Orc Woman are as pure as fresh snow.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Mors Rattus posted:

Yeah we are probably seeing this end in September, I think, he’s sprinting to the end now.
I mean how long are the other printed volumes? My assumption was that we were treading water until volume three (or whatever we're up to) is roughly the same length as the prior volumes.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Schubalts posted:

He only gets horny when he gets horny, showing that his relationships with every single woman he gets naked around other than the Incomparable Orc Woman are as pure as fresh snow.
Our brave hero, who refuses to engage in [checks notes] miscegenation wait a second.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
It's the same reason that naked cuddling is just ~*friendship*~ but Snout and Arudak have never done it, and at this point most of the sex we've seen is bad /// challenges sex. Which is to say the comic isn't actually sex positive or anything like that. It's just occasionally horny on main.

yeah actually they will
Aug 18, 2012

Trapezium Dave posted:



Ink Witch's Challenges is being hugged by a naked Snout?

so weve done them all now. now loving what

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
The real challenges are the friends we made along the way.

DeadBonesBrook
May 31, 2011

How do you do, fellow Regis?
I'm guessing Snout does some kind of Soft Boy Spirit Bomb and the Patreon backers show up to power it.

Douche Wolf 89
Dec 9, 2010

🍉🐺8️⃣9️⃣
pretty funny that this is a sequel to dominic deegan. i get trying to do something "new" in a world you made, but outside of women dying sexily as a trope, what would lead you to guess *this* is what the sequel is like? it's this small cast, personal story about living in the aftermath of dominics actions, but nothing ever seems *from him* and we never get characters acting like or challenging his role. what's the next scene, spirit dominic appearing to say "geewhiz good job not loving your friend, here's forbidden knowledge I guess"?

Douche Wolf 89 fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Sep 2, 2023

GreenMetalSun
Oct 12, 2012
There's a character whose entire motivation is undoing what Dominic did and Mookie can't even bring himself to have that character criticize Dominic's actions.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

Much like what he will be doing with his future dwarf pornography project I can understand wanting to move on to another story but still setting it in the Deeganverse to get eyeballs from former fans. The bit I really don't understand with Legacy is how it's completely divorced from all the locations and characters of the original comic (except Jacob, eventually) while still having everything completely dedicated to Dominic Deegan.

Like he could have made the sequel be about Dominic or his family instead of setting it two centuries later. Or if he wanted a clean break just mention Deegans in passing and make it about literally anything else. I don't get it.

Eight-Six
Oct 26, 2007

Trapezium Dave posted:

Much like what he will be doing with his future dwarf pornography project I can understand wanting to move on to another story but still setting it in the Deeganverse to get eyeballs from former fans. The bit I really don't understand with Legacy is how it's completely divorced from all the locations and characters of the original comic (except Jacob, eventually) while still having everything completely dedicated to Dominic Deegan.

Like he could have made the sequel be about Dominic or his family instead of setting it two centuries later. Or if he wanted a clean break just mention Deegans in passing and make it about literally anything else. I don't get it.

It's all he has

edit: he also was already doing scant post-DD-with-old-dominic stuff on his patreon I think

Eight-Six fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Sep 2, 2023

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


It's looking less likely with how disinterested mookie is in exploring the character but I'm still calling it on Idiota being a Deegan descendant.

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Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Trapezium Dave posted:

Much like what he will be doing with his future dwarf pornography project I can understand wanting to move on to another story but still setting it in the Deeganverse to get eyeballs from former fans. The bit I really don't understand with Legacy is how it's completely divorced from all the locations and characters of the original comic (except Jacob, eventually) while still having everything completely dedicated to Dominic Deegan.

Like he could have made the sequel be about Dominic or his family instead of setting it two centuries later. Or if he wanted a clean break just mention Deegans in passing and make it about literally anything else. I don't get it.
I mean, Maltak was important but it's changed enough it's basically unrecognizable, and the Wild Edge is just Wacky Anything Can Happen Times so it being a place that showed up previously is not really relevant. It's technically in locations from the original comic, but...

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