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bobjr posted:Toby ends the series fired and miserable Ryan abandons his son (or some random baby he stole, who knows) at a party, and Kelly runs away with him, leaving her insanely handsome doctor husband behind as well.
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"The abusive partner was right that his girlfriend had feelings for someone else and that her dreams would amount to nothing" - technically, the actual textual conclusion of hit comedy The Office
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Strategic Tea posted:Nah remember the bit where Roy is all "i don't think you should go to school Pam, you suck and will never make it" - no way do you gotta hand it to him. I think the point is that Roy was in fact awful, and changed for the better. That transformation doesn’t retroactively mean his abusive behaviour was good, actually. Jim either didn’t grow, or got worse over time.
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Yeah, Seasons 1-3 Roy sucked and Pam was right to leave him. Then he realized that he sucked and did something about it. 
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Sep 1, 2023 14:09
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When Roy returns and seems to have cleaned up his act and become successful, isn't there a line or something he does that undercuts that illusion? Or am I remembering it wrong?
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Not that I remember. We just learn that Roy got rich from starting a gravel company, got remarried, and learned how to play piano in secret so he could surprise his new wife with a song. He does seem to have legitimately changed. But I do wonder Roy inviting Pam and Jim was just a weird flex to show his ex how successful he was without her.
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They did say they wanted to make Roy a little more likable than his UK counterpart, since he didn’t have any positive qualities at all, but depending on the episode he’s borderline abusive and neglectful, and others it just seems like a dead relationship going on inertia.
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the Office UK was a limited series that was all about awkward situation humor and kept it very heightened because they didn’t need a decade of show after the 4th season the US had to make an entirely different show with the same characters. an The Office extended universe if you will
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I think there was at least one writer near the end of the show that hated Jim and Pam with a passion. The Roy wedding episode basically boiled down to "Jim and Pam are weird, petty people" and there's also an episode where Jim loses his mind over the idea of another salesman going on one date with Pam and never calling her back.
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A Fancy Hat posted:I think there was at least one writer near the end of the show that hated Jim and Pam with a passion. The Roy wedding episode basically boiled down to "Jim and Pam are weird, petty people" and there's also an episode where Jim loses his mind over the idea of another salesman going on one date with Pam and never calling her back. There’s one episode where they’re looking for a daycare and the daycare teacher says “you’re not as charming as you two think you are” to their face
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Sep 1, 2023 14:58
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Pam thought she was gonna be a professional artist when she was only moderately talented at water colours. Get a grip, lady. Keep it as a hobby.
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What did Roy do that was abusive? I haven't seen the earlier seasons in a while and he just sorta seemed like a thoughtless putz but not exactly abusive.
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Remember when Angela had Dwight's baby and didn't tell him he was the father? And then she did and it was all good and they got married and ignored the glaring red flag trust issues?
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A Fancy Hat posted:I think there was at least one writer near the end of the show that hated Jim and Pam with a passion. The Roy wedding episode basically boiled down to "Jim and Pam are weird, petty people" and there's also an episode where Jim loses his mind over the idea of another salesman going on one date with Pam and never calling her back. That was really weird.
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Ralph Crammed In posted:What did Roy do that was abusive? I haven't seen the earlier seasons in a while and he just sorta seemed like a thoughtless putz but not exactly abusive. Roy wasn’t slapping Pam around or whatever, but he definitely showed a level of negligence and self-absorption that goes beyond just thoughtless. Examples: - taking Pam, your *fiancee*, to a hockey game and straight up forgetting she was there and leaving - Not going to Pam’s art show and just being dismissive of Pam’s artistic pursuits in general - clearly has problems with alcohol and anger management. After finding out about Pam’s kiss, he flips out and destroys a bar even before attacking Jim I know Pam and Jim suck but Roy was a walking pile of red flags
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Gatto Grigio posted:Roy wasn’t slapping Pam around or whatever, but he definitely showed a level of negligence and self-absorption that goes beyond just thoughtless. Examples: Aside from the last one those are more assholey than abusive. Being an rear end in a top hat isn't being abusive in and of itself. My ex was an rear end in a top hat and abusive but they weren't always the same thing.
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He's a selfish rear end in a top hat that is emotionally abusive.
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Dismissive and unsupportive of his girlfriend 🚩 Intimidating and physically violent to Jim 🚩 Small business owner 🚩🚩🚩
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Zugzwang posted:drat, the whole Jim/Roy feud was an op, wasn't it https://twitter.com/johnkrasinski/status/1138961511945330688?s=20
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bobjr posted:There’s one episode where they’re looking for a daycare and the daycare teacher says “you’re not as charming as you two think you are” to their face 
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A Fancy Hat posted:I think there was at least one writer near the end of the show that hated Jim and Pam with a passion. The Roy wedding episode basically boiled down to "Jim and Pam are weird, petty people" and there's also an episode where Jim loses his mind over the idea of another salesman going on one date with Pam and never calling her back. The thing about the salesman not liking Pam is so weird. What would have satisfied Jim in that situation? That the salesman actually did like her so Jim could lord it over him or what? Also Jim was with Karen during that time period, so why is it okay that Karen presumably had sex with him but like this other guy was just saying Pam? The more you think about it the more hosed up it is.
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A Fancy Hat posted:I think there was at least one writer near the end of the show that hated Jim and Pam with a passion. The Roy wedding episode basically boiled down to "Jim and Pam are weird, petty people" and there's also an episode where Jim loses his mind over the idea of another salesman going on one date with Pam and never calling her back.
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Strategic Tea posted:
this is a red flag?
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Gatto Grigio posted:- Not going to Pam’s art show and just being dismissive of Pam’s artistic pursuits in general Actually he was one of only three people to go! Michael, Oscar, and Roy. Roy makes a bone-headed comment about how cool it is that he showed up before anyone else she invited though.
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your art is the prettiest art of all the art
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PinheadSlim posted:Actually he was one of only three people to go! Michael, Oscar, and Roy. Ah, my mistake
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pencilhands posted:he was right though 
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You know we give a lot of poo poo to characters like Jim and Stanley but Meredith gets a pass abusing her son because she's fun Oh god the episode where her son strips for her 
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Yeah, well she didn't name her child Cece.
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Meredith always had solitaire up on her computer, which is exactly as seriously as a person should take a job like that.
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Zugzwang posted:Meredith always had solitaire up on her computer, which is exactly as seriously as a person should take a job like that. She was loving the suppliers for huge discounts and corporate let it slide because of the savings
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bobjr posted:She was loving the suppliers for huge steaks
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Yeah, well she didn't name her child Cece. peepee halpert
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PinheadSlim posted:You know we give a lot of poo poo to characters like Jim and Stanley but Meredith gets a pass abusing her son because she's fun That kid was use to abuse anyway. 
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:That kid was use to abuse anyway. lmao Also I remember Merediths kid being a menace that no one could handle. Except when he was hanging out with Pam and Roy. They gave him healthy outlets for his energy and had a blast with him, and I remember at the time I thought it was going to spark a whole arc about Pam going back to Roy.
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bobjr posted:She was loving the suppliers for huge discounts and corporate let it slide because of the savings I love that corporate just ultimately rolled with it too, that's 100% accurate
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man that whole thing on the booze cruise Jim treated Katy like poo poo just because... she wasn't Pam? She's some "dumb cheerleader" or w/e and gently caress her and Roy for having something to joke around and bond over? Roy should've thrown jim into the water, no one would've flinched, and Dwight would've piloted the boat over the top of him
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Is Jim really the worst person on the show? Or does it just stand out more because of how the show framed him in contrast to everyone else for the majority of its run?
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Is Jim really the worst person on the show? Or does it just stand out more because of how the show framed him in contrast to everyone else for the majority of its run? imo it's because, as the above example kinda points out, Jim and Pam act like they're better than everyone around them in a realistic way. With Dwight and Stanley and whoever they're obviously cartoon characters, their superiority complexes are a little less annoying because they're so obviously not superior to anyone, it's a joke. But not with Jim. We're meant to agree, yeah, Jim is too good for some dumb blonde cheerleader! e; And remember the scene where she said one of her Island movies is Legally Blonde and Pam loving snorted at her like some goon? Legally Blonde kicks rear end. It's a borderline sapphic story about how you shouldn't judge women by societies sexist and dismissive attitude towards certain kind of women. Which is exactly what The Office is doing with Katy. Punkinhead fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Sep 1, 2023 |
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