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CommissarMega posted:How precise are these cardboard drones? Because these planes aren't even fully covered, so unless the camera caught this plane mid-dressing, this poo poo still isn't going to be effective in the least. They have a huge explosion radius and they're absolutely stuffed full of ball bearings too. Though with these tires thrown in, all you'd have to do is attach a container of gasoline or add some thermite to the explosive mix, and things suddenly get even worse because now there's burning tires to contend with.
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Sep 3, 2023 14:01
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Cartoon Man posted:So this has gotta be another example of Russia just doing anything in response to a disaster in order to show the top brass that they’re doing something in response, never mind how ludicrous or worthless it actually is…right? *insert Padme/Anakin meme*
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Sep 3, 2023 14:03
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1698302027552436366 How do they imagine this will work? Will it confuse drone guidance? Will the bomb bounce off the tires? Will they set tires on fire and the black toxic smoke will protect the plane?
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Sep 3, 2023 14:03
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Sedgr posted:Somewhere in Russia a mid level shithead is screaming into his phone "NO NO I said I was TIRED of the loving drones! TIRED of the aircraft being destroyed. TIRED of being blamed. Im going to be RETIRED by the FSB if you don't loving fix this! Is this their plan for the fall? Are they going to do this All Season? I'm not getting through here. I'm getting no traction. gently caress gently caress gently caress!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIDSOwInKfc
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Sep 3, 2023 14:04
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I wonder how many tires that aluminum construction can hold before it begins to warp.
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Sep 3, 2023 14:16
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zone posted:They have a huge explosion radius and they're absolutely stuffed full of ball bearings too. Though with these tires thrown in, all you'd have to do is attach a container of gasoline or add some thermite to the explosive mix, and things suddenly get even worse because now there's burning tires to contend with.
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Sep 3, 2023 14:17
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rowkey bilbao posted:Lol that the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations is a thing. I'm not sure there's equivalents in the west. FEMA?
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Sep 3, 2023 14:18
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Sep 3, 2023 14:19
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Alan Smithee posted:known fire prevention technique necklacing If UA is using simple contact detonators that need to impact a hard surface, this might actually work. If they have any other way to trigger the explosives, this will of course make things substantially worse. Also, even if they were using simple contact detonators for the first batch, now they know that their target is covered in tires and can change what they are doing, thus rendering this insanity worthless. ChickenHeart posted:I wonder how many tires that aluminum construction can hold before it begins to warp. The wings of an aircraft need to carry the weight of the plane, times something if you need it to be able to maneuver. It'll be fine.
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Sep 3, 2023 14:30
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1698302027552436366
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Sep 3, 2023 14:34
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Because having a burning pile of tires on top of the plane after the drone strike is so good for the airframe.
Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Sep 3, 2023 |
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Sep 3, 2023 14:35
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Sep 3, 2023 14:37
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rowkey bilbao posted:Lol that the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations is a thing. I'm not sure there's equivalents in the west. Shoygu used to be minister for emergency situations before MoD. They are firefighters, helicopter rescuers and such The least hated ministry in whole russia. For doing something useful most of the time
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Sep 3, 2023 14:37
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Those planes have clearly been retired from active duty
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Sep 3, 2023 14:38
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rowkey bilbao posted:Lol that the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations is a thing. I'm not sure there's equivalents in the west. FEMA. Not at ministry level at least any more, but definitely a thing.
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Sep 3, 2023 14:42
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Tuna-Fish posted:If UA is using simple contact detonators that need to impact a hard surface, this might actually work. They can already be remote detonated, you could see it in the demonstration video they posted recently.
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Sep 3, 2023 14:43
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I spoke to a woman from far east russia. Who worked for a local governor. And he somehow turned things around that she owed him for some sort of fuckup. She gave him her car and somehow did not feel it unfair or injust.
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Sep 3, 2023 14:48
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A deep dive regarding those tires protecting strategic bombers. Close analysis of the images of the tires covering a TU-95 suggest that Moscow's military is facing a major shortage of tires. There are cracks in the sidewall consistent with age degradation along with rubber peeling debris at the bottom in the tire fold. Now look closer, right, at the tire manufacturing marks. "MADE IN USSR" in English script!! The USSR officially ended on December 25, 1991. We, in 2023, are looking at 30 year old tires protecting a TU-95! The sun rot on the tire & USSR markings strongly suggests the Russians are suffering a serious tire shortage. You don't protect an important air frame with something that ancient and useless unless you are desperate. Even if you are Russian.
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Sep 3, 2023 14:58
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1698302027552436366 You gotta use rubber for protection, right?
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Sep 3, 2023 15:11
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Now they also have to put tires on all the fake planes they painted on the ground .
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Sep 3, 2023 15:12
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rowkey bilbao posted:Now they also have to put tires on all the fake planes they painted on the ground . 
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Sep 3, 2023 15:14
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fug :DDDD
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Sep 3, 2023 15:35
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1698327523640164693#m Presented without comment.
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Sep 3, 2023 15:57
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Pookah posted:Those planes have clearly been retired from active duty Boo this poster, booooo.
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Sep 3, 2023 16:01
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Strange how pro Russia NATO member Hungary is. And how so many American right wingers love Hungary. So odd!
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Sep 3, 2023 16:04
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The have rubber on, for protection.
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Sep 3, 2023 16:04
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Where is that tire expert guy from early in the war when you need him?
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Sep 3, 2023 16:08
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redshirt posted:Strange how pro Russia NATO member Hungary is. So many US Republicans go there too, how very very strange. Perhaps there is a money trail that we can follow! Putin is a real piece of the dookie
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Sep 3, 2023 16:09
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1698302027552436366 I'm made of rubber and you're glue! Whatever bombs you throw bounce off me and apparently gently caress up the fighter plane parked immediately next to me! 
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Sep 3, 2023 16:11
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Cardboard drones bounce off tire covered bombers
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Sep 3, 2023 16:14
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1698302027552436366 Wait. Is that a gay fighter jet? They're learning, we're hosed
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Sep 3, 2023 16:17
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1698302027552436366 Comedy option: The tires form a good enough seal against the wings that they fill with rainwater, and the extra weight breaks the wings.
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Sep 3, 2023 16:21
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https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1698307643427766456#mquote:⚡️Yesterday evening in the village of Kinski Rozdory, Polohy District, Zaporizhzhia region, there were explosions in one of the cafes where russian officers were located. Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov announced this.
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Sep 3, 2023 16:25
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1698302027552436366 I'm going to point out that the planes aren't parked along the taxi lines, but then again the bomber has loving cope tires on its wings. Edit: Apparently at that particular airbase on that section of the tarmac they just don't park along the taxi lines for some reason. They park along the taxi lines in other sections. DiomedesGodshill fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Sep 3, 2023 |
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Sep 3, 2023 16:43
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zone posted:No joke, I saw a post on telegram only two months ago where they were complaining about exactly that. The same cope post had attached instruction on how to make ERA bricks at home and an appeal to all "patriots" to get to work at once. Then one month later Murz almost got arrested for complaining that, again, they still hadn't enough ERA bricks to attach to tanks. He was subjected to an interrogation by some major from a nearby military base, he just made fun of him and left. Sure, encouraging random Russians to make homemade explosives can't possibly go wrong... On the subject of the tyres, it's not necessarily the worst idea in theory if the drones in question are like the one in that demo video they released which basically just vomits a shower of high-speed metal fragments at the target from above; put enough rubber between that and the target and it might slow them down enough to reduce the damage. The way they have the tyres arranged leaves a lot of gaps for shrapnel to still turn the plane into Swiss cheese, though, and if something does start burning, then you've just got a giant tyre fire on top of everything else, so...
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Sep 3, 2023 16:45
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dennyk posted:On the subject of the tyres, it's not necessarily the worst idea in theory if the drones in question are like the one in that demo video they released which basically just vomits a shower of high-speed metal fragments at the target from above; put enough rubber between that and the target and it might slow them down enough to reduce the damage. The way they have the tyres arranged leaves a lot of gaps for shrapnel to still turn the plane into Swiss cheese, though, and if something does start burning, then you've just got a giant tyre fire on top of everything else, so... The more I think about the tire thing the more I laugh. Not only are there gaps, but that's a lot of extra time consuming hard labor to put the (potentially water filled) tires on and off between each flight. I'm not a military person but I would think the last thing you'd want to do is annoy the ground/maintenance crews. Also more lols if Russia is requiring the pilots to do the maintenance. What a
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Sep 3, 2023 17:02
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DiomedesGodshill posted:The more I think about the tire thing the more I laugh. Not only are there gaps, but that's a lot of extra time consuming hard labor to put the (potentially water filled) tires on and off between each flight. I'm not a military person but I would think the last thing you'd want to do is annoy the ground/maintenance crews. Also more lols if Russia is requiring the pilots to do the maintenance. What a I wonder if the tires leave any rubber residue, and reduce performance of the plane.
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Sep 3, 2023 17:06
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redshirt posted:I wonder if the tires leave any rubber residue, and reduce performance of the plane. The tires probably don't leave any residue, but you probably don't want people walking on or kicking/dropping/throwing tires into place on the ailerons and trim tabs. I'm really hoping someone on SA with airplane maintenance experience can chime in here.
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Sep 3, 2023 17:16
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They'll move those tires a couple times and then they'll stop bothering. One day one of those planes will take minor damage at takeoff because someone forgot a tire on top.
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Sep 3, 2023 17:41
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Why would you have to waste time taking them off, just put a net at the end of the runway
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