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Antigravitas posted:Most of those matters are state matters though. You won't see the federal state telling the states what to do in that area without the states' consent. My example was from Italy where if i decided to get a visit in Veneto, my data (which is stocked into FVG EPR sesamo system) would not be visible and would require export. The digital paper sick note was introduced here in 2009, I think i haven't seen a paper one since 2010.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Getting consent involves broaching the subject in the first place. There has been continuous talk about the subject for decades now. The topic has been broached, stakeholders have been consulted, stakeholders have met in committees, formed working groups, interest groups, self-help groups, lobby groups; the ministry of transport under several ministers has variously torpedoed, ignored, or vigorously talked about the Datenautobahn; paperwork has been printed, scanned, faxed, redacted and faxed back, lost, found, lost again, restored from a copy, voted on and against, (in triplicate), carbon copied and presented at press conferences, made into election promises and subsequently ignored/disavowed/burned at the stake/expressed concerns with, and discussed in talk shows, and in private. There is, trust me on this, no shortage of broaching. It's the doing that's the problem. my mother's boss lets his secretary print every single email because he doesn't want a computer, and I know several people who print and file their mails into binders 
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Antigravitas posted:my mother's boss lets his secretary print every single email because he doesn't want a computer, and I know several people who print and file their mails into binders I'm now trying to imagine everyone competing for warehouse space to store thousands of binders.
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raifield posted:I'm now trying to imagine everyone competing for warehouse space to store thousands of binders. I could send pictures but I would then dox myself. We have multiple offices of boomers doing so.
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Yeah, not using my master key to get into boomer offices to post evidence of entire walls of email binders, but, sysadmin's honour, they exist.
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Antigravitas posted:There has been continuous talk about the subject for decades now. The topic has been broached, stakeholders have been consulted, stakeholders have met in committees, formed working groups, interest groups, self-help groups, lobby groups; the ministry of transport under several ministers has variously torpedoed, ignored, or vigorously talked about the Datenautobahn; paperwork has been printed, scanned, faxed, redacted and faxed back, lost, found, lost again, restored from a copy, voted on and against, (in triplicate), carbon copied and presented at press conferences, made into election promises and subsequently ignored/disavowed/burned at the stake/expressed concerns with, and discussed in talk shows, and in private.
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I believe that's under discussion.
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German boomer moving his emails from one folder to another.
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Antigravitas posted:Yeah, not using my master key to get into boomer offices to post evidence of entire walls of email binders, but, sysadmin's honour, they exist. I used to have this image of Germany as somehow being stuck permanently in the 1980s when I was a kid/teenager, and it turns out my suspicion wasn't entirely unfounded.
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Timmersmann replacement for the time being is Maroš Šefčovič, does anyone know his stances on green policies? Roll coal and ignore pollution? Drive electric or summary execution?
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SlowBloke posted:Timmersmann replacement for the time being is Maroš Šefčovič, does anyone know his stances on green policies? Roll coal and ignore pollution? Drive electric or summary execution? He opposes even basic LGBT rights like civil partnerships due to his "traditional Christian values". He campaigns against anti-domestic violence laws because of "gender ideology". Hes been against sanctions on Russia, and says Russia isn't a threat to Europe. I don't know his environmental policies but I'd bet quite a lot of money they're awful, based on his track record.
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Right wing dark money think tanks ensure that shitheads like that pretty much have a homogeneous full package of views so my bet is he'll think the same poo poo as the italian or spanish or american guy who says the same stuff as he does on the other topics. Good money on 'environmental regulations stop industrious salt of the earth
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Good to know, so it wouldn't be out of character to move the ICE ban to 2049 to please his constituents. At least I received a pittance of incentive for my new EV, given the current political climate for transport and industrial ministers, i wouldn't be surprised if those also vanish.
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It's cool that the Party of European Socialists once again allow right-wing shitheads to be part of their collective because 40 years ago they were part of the Soviet boot on the necks of the populace.
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without them it would be an even more pitiful and irrelevant bloc than it is now, you play the cards you are dealt
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Either way they're pitiful, irrelevant and oftentimes fascism apologists. Kinda feels that overall Brexit was a net positive in terms of removing wankers from the EU parliament.
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Brexit was a huge positive in removing British MEPs like Farage from parliament, thats a fairly widespread and common opinion. The UK had one of the worst delegations on average of any country.
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Dutch goons: What the balls is going on with the nitrogen crisis poo poo and why is BBB tanking so hard in the polls?
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Pizdec posted:Dutch goons: What the balls is going on with the nitrogen crisis poo poo and why is BBB tanking so hard in the polls? holy poo poo i hadn't looked at polling since may, which apparently was their peak. i thought they were shoe-ins to form the next government  interestingly the greens and socdems have formed an alliance (that new red line at the recent end of the graph) which i also missed. i'm not sure why, since the electoral threshold to enter the house is less than 1% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GroenLinks%E2%80%93PvdA#2023_general_election
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and here's that very recent light-blue line that's currently leading in polling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Social_Contract quote:Electorate
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Pizdec posted:Dutch goons: What the balls is going on with the nitrogen crisis poo poo and why is BBB tanking so hard in the polls? quote:BBB leader Caroline van der Plas doesn't want to be Prime Minister wish i could say something like "thank god i don't live in the netherlands", but this is just one mutation of the nonsense going through european politics the problem with being a populist opposition is that sometimes you win elections and have to take on responsibility
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I for one find this refreshing. She knows what she's good at and wants to keep doing it, instead of grabbing powet. She also admits her inexperience. I don't know anything about her other politics but this is laudable.
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I'm a Flemish goon so only know what's crossed the border, but basically the nitrogen crisis is kinda self-inflicted by the Dutch government and we in Belgium are kinda in the same boat. From what I can tell, the government has rules and regulations about nitrogen emissions (target mandated by Europe), but they haven't really implemented them in a good way. In 2019 a judge ruled their approach at it invalid, basically voiding a shitload of building projects and putting every sector that produces nitrogen emissions at risk. They can't really target transport because that'd kill the economy, so industry and agriculture had the most to fear. The farmers got up in arms due to the government wanting to cut emissions in their sector by cutting the amount of livestock in half, this is about a 25 billion euro idea. That's why there's been periodic farmer protests in the Netherlands with convoys of farming tractors blocking highways. Caroline Van Der Plas played some good populist politics to get the farmers and anti-government reactionaries in her pocket by forming the BBB (farmer citizen movement). She's not quite anti-vax or a conspiracy nut, but because the other alt-politics parties have proven to actually be those, she was the 'best' option. Geert Wilders has only upped his racism and anti-EU stance, Thierry Baudet is a tin-foil hat conspiracy nut with a massive boner for Putin. A popular centrist mainstream politician, Pieter Omtzigt, has gone independent and formed his own party, Nieuw Sociaal Contract, which afaik doesn't really have a program yet but it's a good lightning-rod for the discontented voters. He might actually also be able to be good at governing, I guess. I said Belgium/Flanders is kinda in the same boat because we're also a small, densely populated area with a shitload of livestock agriculture. If a judge rules that we also have to take care of our environment in an effective way we're never going to recover.
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Doctor Malaver posted:I for one find this refreshing. She knows what she's good at and wants to keep doing it, instead of grabbing powet. She also admits her inexperience. I don't know anything about her other politics but this is laudable. +1 to that. Her policies from what I know aren't great, but I wish more politicians had this more balanced attitude to life. She clearly cares about more in her life than just popularity and power. You wouldn't hear anything like that from any of the narcissistic psychopaths that most high level politicians are.
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it could also be a tacit admission that government formation under her may be difficult. i know in other countries with lots of parties, the prime minister isn't necessarily from largest party, but from a party that is kind of in the ideological middle of the parties that form the government
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nimby posted:I'm a Flemish goon so only know what's crossed the border, but basically the nitrogen crisis is kinda self-inflicted by the Dutch government and we in Belgium are kinda in the same boat. High intensity farming isn't nice to the animals either, I bet they spend most of their lives indoors never seeing a blade of grass.
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I keep hearing about some Serbians' difficulties with emigrating to EU. One is going to Croatia, another to Germany, and the third to Italy. They all speak the language, have university degrees, and already have work or academia projects. And they are battling various administrative rules, hoops and delays. The administration is a burden even when working properly, but in Italy in Croatia at least it keeps failing its own deadlines. I have an acquaintance in administrative duties in police and he's telling me the pay is low and every department is short staffed. So... why do it that way? Why waste so many resources for years on making it difficult for people in the prime of their lives to come? Yes you want to make sure the immigrant is not a career criminal, or just looking to get on the dole, but I don't think you need 5+ years for that. If I were one of those countries, I'd give these three passports tomorrow. Not because I'm good but because it's in my interest. With EU getting older, lacking workers, falling behind technologically... I'd expect regular immigration to become much simpler. Doctor Malaver fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Sep 4, 2023 |
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Italy's """"""liberal""""" """""revolutionary"""""" government, ie berlusconi circa 2004, instated a full moratorium on public sector hiring that has only recently been lifted. That act of conscious, fully intentional sabotage cost us unimaginable, inestimable amounts of money, opportunities etc. One of the effects that can be now felt, as the public sector scrambles to hire thousands upon thousands of civil servants (its own generational issue I won't get into here) is that there is currently barely any staff anywhere to do anything. Getting a passport takes an ordinary italian the better half of a year. I cannot stress how bad the staffing shortage is. Your friend is not only battling institutionally racist immigration policy, but also chronic lack of personnel.
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Seems to be pretty common unfortunately, everything just takes forever, everything is understaffed. My citizenship application (after being a permanent resident for years) took a year and a half instead of 6 months like it's supposed to by law.
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In Belgium the liberals are opposed to giving out work permits to undocumented migrants, because it's create an incentive for people to ('illegally') migrate here. Meanwhile our economy is in desperate need of all sorts of workers. It's a European/racism thing.
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yeah it's pretty clear many people would prefer demographic collapse to seeing a minaret
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mortons stork posted:Italy's """"""liberal""""" """""revolutionary"""""" government, ie berlusconi circa 2004, instated a full moratorium on public sector hiring that has only recently been lifted. That act of conscious, fully intentional sabotage cost us unimaginable, inestimable amounts of money, opportunities etc. One of the effects that can be now felt, as the public sector scrambles to hire thousands upon thousands of civil servants (its own generational issue I won't get into here) is that there is currently barely any staff anywhere to do anything. Getting a passport takes an ordinary italian the better half of a year. I cannot stress how bad the staffing shortage is. Your friend is not only battling institutionally racist immigration policy, but also chronic lack of personnel. That nuts. Ireland reformed its passport office a few years ago and its become literally award winning since - to the point that passports usually take less than a week from ordering to delivery now, sometimes as little as 48hours. Not rushed/special ones either at that, just general ordinary ones. Theres absolutely no reason it should take 6 months in 2023.
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i say swears online posted:yeah it's pretty clear many people would prefer demographic collapse to seeing a minaret
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I remember shortly after Brexit going to a talk by Yaris Varoufakis and a liberal Turkish author and a communist Croatian author, and the overwhelming conclusion they had was that the purpose of the EU, in terms of immigration policy, has been to keep the browns, and those at risk of being even somewhat brown, out. Serbia is Politically Brown (see what they did in the 90s??) so they are not welcome.
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Tesseraction posted:I remember shortly after Brexit going to a talk by Yaris Varoufakis and a liberal Turkish author and a communist Croatian author, and the overwhelming conclusion they had was that the purpose of the EU, in terms of immigration policy, has been to keep the browns, and those at risk of being even somewhat brown, out.
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Tesseraction posted:I remember shortly after Brexit going to a talk by Yaris Varoufakis and a liberal Turkish author and a communist Croatian author, and the overwhelming conclusion they had was that the purpose of the EU, in terms of immigration policy, has been to keep the browns, and those at risk of being even somewhat brown, out. Yeah thats nonsense. The EU has been far more pro-immigration than most EU member state countries. Its the primary driver pushing most countries to accept more brown people, at great political cost to itself in Central/Eastern Europe in particular. Its about in-line with German policy, which has generally been one of the more liberal in Europe. Serbians are somewhat persona non grata because they're from a relatively economically prosperous country, they're not fleeing a war zone, they're responsible for violent ethnic cleansing against the people of multiple EU member states in living memory, and because they're politically/nationally close to Putin's Russia. There are more needy migrants to take in.
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Successful politicians that care about international situations get positions in the EU, whether it's cabinets, organisations or parliament seats. That leaves more room for successful nationalists at home. So you have an EU that tries to manage immigration across borders that clashes with individual states who don't see a boat of refugees landing on a Greek coastline as a Northern European problem.
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The famously pro migrant eu, i say as i try my darnedest to ignore what frontex does in cooperation with the libyan "coast guard". A deal that the eu sponsored and has zero problem upholding today.
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mortons stork posted:The famously pro migrant eu, i say as i try my darnedest to ignore what frontex does in cooperation with the libyan "coast guard". A deal that the eu sponsored and has zero problem upholding today.
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