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A few more things inspired by the Swallow's Compass thoughts (though not strictly limited to the dungeon) The Encyclopaedia Eorzea II has some write-ups for the Tengu and the zombie with the fancy hat. Since it's not an in-game source, behind the spoiler bars it goes, but I will at least note that it's more lore trivia in nature than anything. The Tengu always conceal their faces around others - their masks are mystical in nature, more conjured illusion than physical object, and are said to be further enspelled to destroy the tengu's true visage upon death. As such, they are never seen eating around others, though they enjoy drink. Ganen's tutor is claimed to have been a tengu, and Geomancy itself is thought to be rooted in tengu magicks. They have no known government, but occasionally bands will form around powerful individuals. The Sai Taisui are actually not flesh and blood people, living or unliving, but geomantically animated golems created from mud taken from rare locations where currents of earth, wind, and water interconnect.
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jalapeno_dude posted:I'm glad you did do the last Kojin rank; I honestly couldn't tell whether you were doing a bit with how you talked about the "ending". For the second, you're absolutely right. What the hell, how did I get entirely the wrong Voice Actress? Kondo isn't even in 14, though weirdly she is in Final Fantasy Type 0. I definitely clicked a wrong thing while I was researching somehow. Well, most of the overall point still stands, Nanjo's singing and voice work is also well renowned and in line with what I was saying about Kondo. I'll just need to rewrite that paragraph somewhat. Thanks for the catch. As for the other thing, like I said, since there were no new Dailies and the main thrust of the conflict was over, I considered Sworn to be the "end," of the Tribal story, with Bloodsworn being an epilogue that I'll cover later.
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Sep 7, 2023 19:52
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Suzaku is great, Sunrise is great. Maybe it's nostalgia because she was my first extreme but drat I love that song.
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Sanguinia posted:Could this mean that Koryu was the product of an Ascian plot? 
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I have re-written the Jpop rant section of the chapter to account for that embarrassing Voice Actor mistake. Maybe some day I'll figure out how I messed that up so badly.
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Since no one else has pointed it out yet, Tenzen and Suzaku here are also meant to be a reference to FF11's Tenzen and his Phoenix blade. Just hop over to Fat and Useless's FF11 LP and compare both Tenzens to each other. You should also check out Fat and Useless's FF11 LP because it is very good!
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Sep 7, 2023 23:20
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Melomane Mallet posted:Since no one else has pointed it out yet, Tenzen and Suzaku here are also meant to be a reference to FF11's Tenzen and his Phoenix blade. Just hop over to Fat and Useless's FF11 LP and compare both Tenzens to each other. This tbh. Having both LPs going at once makes me all warm and fuzzy, and F&U deserves more views for all the work that's going into that thing dangit
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Sep 7, 2023 23:22
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Melomane Mallet posted:Since no one else has pointed it out yet, Tenzen and Suzaku here are also meant to be a reference to FF11's Tenzen and his Phoenix blade. Just hop over to Fat and Useless's FF11 LP and compare both Tenzens to each other. Sanguinia posted:This tbh. Having both LPs going at once makes me all warm and fuzzy, and F&U deserves more views for all the work that's going into that thing dangit We are in the middle of three paths, no one deserves the hell I'm  ing through.(honestly three paths is good but you'll never catch me saying it in my thread) If you want to learn specifically about Tenzen just start at Chains, you probably aren't missing anything important and if you are then crap, mea culpa.
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Fat and Useless posted:We are in the middle of three paths, no one deserves the hell I'm How did I not know about this LP before?? You kids and trusts are lucky, I did CoP back in the days where the level caps were still enforced.  e: Also, I played XI until 2020. I didn't get into XIV until then despite my best efforts. I wanted to really like XIV, but it took like 5 tries before it clicked. I still have a 1.0 character hanging around, though he never got to level 20. Kazy fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Sep 8, 2023 |
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Sep 8, 2023 01:55
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Ah Tataru,, still putting way too power in her carbies. It is still quite impressive of how much aether she ends up putting into them.
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Tataru is certainly unique in the way she forms and commands her carbuncle. The fact that they don't follow her orders is certainly something that could be remedied if they ever thought she needed combat prowess, mayhaps a different equation or two would suffice.
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Sep 8, 2023 03:04
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I imagine Tataru probably could've learned better control of her Carbuncle if she hadn't quit immediately after Lesson 1.
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Kwyndig posted:Tataru is certainly unique in the way she forms and commands her carbuncle. The fact that they don't follow her orders is certainly something that could be remedied if they ever thought she needed combat prowess, mayhaps a different equation or two would suffice. Tragically avoidable mistake, really
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Tataru didn't need to be good at fighting she needed to feel useful. She could learn to get good at fighting but why do that when she can feel useful in ways that don't require learning an entirely new discipline?
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Suzuka has great music and I remember my time fighting her resulted in at least a few of the other players in the Trial dying because they had no clue about her mechanics such as the DDR one where they just stood there doing nothing.
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Pyro Jack posted:Suzuka has great music and I remember my time fighting her resulted in at least a few of the other players in the Trial dying because they had no clue about her mechanics such as the DDR one where they just stood there doing nothing. I remember the instructions the game gives you are weird, IIRC it says "stand upon the correct spot" not "face the correct direction". But in my experience everyone figures it out after the first set of orbs at the latest. The thing that people really don't seem to get these days is that you're not supposed to let the adds at the start get revived; you're supposed to kill them all in the middle and then kill the feather that appears there. Between ilvl and power creep bursting the revived adds down is now generally possible but back at release if more than one add revived you were wiping for sure.
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jalapeno_dude posted:The thing that people really don't seem to get these days is that you're not supposed to let the adds at the start get revived; you're supposed to kill them all in the middle and then kill the feather that appears there. Between ilvl and power creep bursting the revived adds down is now generally possible but back at release if more than one add revived you were wiping for sure. IIRC on extreme you split up into dps-support pairs and pull an add toward a feather on your cardinal/intercardinal spot, kill the add, then kill the feather. I've been with people that forget which thing you do on which difficulty.
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Luckily, the feathers come super early in the fight, so if the party explodes it's more akin to getting flushed by the tidal wave at the start of Shinryu.
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Sep 8, 2023 18:17
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And then people forget she has a knock back and a pull in and die and you have to redo the DDR which is so slow and bad. Worst bit of the fight, really. I had to run Suzaku Ex a lot (for the card)
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Sep 8, 2023 23:32
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And of course, there's no easier way to grief your party than the Rescue Hole.
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:And then people forget she has a knock back and a pull in and die and you have to redo the DDR which is so slow and bad. I always just used knockback mitigation whenever I heard a flute.
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jalapeno_dude posted:I remember the instructions the game gives you are weird, IIRC it says "stand upon the correct spot" not "face the correct direction". But in my experience everyone figures it out after the first set of orbs at the latest. Pyro Jack fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Sep 9, 2023 |
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:And then people forget she has a knock back and a pull in and die and you have to redo the DDR which is so slow and bad. the DDR section is mercifully short enough that i didn't mind it too terribly. at least it's not byakko's one hundred year free-fall phase it's kind of a difficult balancing act of wanting fights to have their own spin to things to break up the monotony between fights, but also not break up the pacing of the fights themselves to their own detriment. personally i generally think it's fine to go all-out with gimmicks and cinematic phases in fights you do once for progression and then whenever roulette decides you should do it again like trials, or fights you do once a week like on-tier normal and alliance raids, but for fights that take a lot of time to prog and are designed to be farmed like extreme trials and savage raids you wanna tone them down or straight-up remove them because there's no gimmick on the face of this earth that doesn't go from fresh to tired to grating over the course of 10 or 20 or 50 or 100 pulls a cartoon duck fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Sep 9, 2023 |
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I dunno, having it done 68 times, the DDR Phase blows IMHO. Cards should have some sort of bad luck protection tho
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yeah i'm not saying i wouldn't be happier if suzaku ex didn't have it, just that it's one of the least bad unique intermission gimmicks
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I love the DDR section but I try not to grind this game endlessly outside of running stuff for BLU so I haven't gotten sick of it yet. Also Suzaku has an amazingly fun and useful BLU spell
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I just realized that I probably have neglected to bring up something neat that these games do with the Garleans, that being that each Legatus is a reference to a character their legion's number corresponds to. So that could be a neat bit of a discussion. Oh, and spoilers for Final Fantasy VI, VII, and XII, of course. quote:Gaius van Baelsar, XIVth Legion (Gaius van Baelsar) quote:Nael van Darnus, VIIth Legion (Sephiroth) quote:Regula van Hydrus, VIth Legion (General Leo) quote:Zenos yae Galvus, XIIth Legion (Vayne Solidor) Feel free to correct me on any points or mention if I missed anything! Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Sep 9, 2023 |
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Sep 9, 2023 14:30
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Very good post, pointing out some great references.
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Yeah, the "Legate = full of references to their legion number's game" thing is one of those things I really enjoy about how the writers handled the Garlean leadership. To go on any further about it right now would be spoilers, but suffice to say, that post above is pretty extensive for what we've seen to this point.
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Worth noting Gaius is a reference visually to Grahf from Xenogears.
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A Sometimes Food posted:Worth noting Gaius is a reference visually to Grahf from Xenogears. I don't know that he's a reference, since their personalities and goals don't have much in common. But Gaius' armor is definitely reminiscent of Grahf's.
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gaius dropping in upside down in the middle of other showdowns between the Warrior of Light and an act boss to say "DO YOU BELIEVE IN EORZEA" before giving the boss a power-up would be a delightful change
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Aw poo poo lads it’s the unskippable cutscene attack I’d also say that while fancy ornate armor and helmets aren’t exactly unique to any one series, I feel like the legati and their high ranking underlings getting their own fancy unique armor sets evokes the Judges from FFTA/FF12 rather generally, especially given that there’s a lot of shared DNA between the FF12 team and the FF14 team.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:gaius dropping in upside down in the middle of other showdowns between the Warrior of Light and an act boss to say "DO YOU BELIEVE IN EORZEA" before giving the boss a power-up would be a delightful change The power of the glorious mother of destruction: ceruleum.
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MY MONOLOGUE IS THE DIVINE BREATH
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Thundarr posted:I don't know that he's a reference, since their personalities and goals don't have much in common. But Gaius' armor is definitely reminiscent of Grahf's. I said "visually".
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Ran Rannerson posted:Aw poo poo lads it’s the unskippable cutscene attack Yeah, it's pretty much the Vector Empire from VI with the Archadian armor from XII.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I just realized that I probably have neglected to bring up something neat that these games do with the Garleans, that being that each Legatus is a reference to a character their legion's number corresponds to. So that could be a neat bit of a discussion. Well now I await the 5th and 9th Legions with curiosity.
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If I know anything about Final Fantasy, nobody likes the Second Legion
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Second Legion has some nice lads and lasses with decent personality, but they have a very weird promotion system where there are no real ranks, people are just given constant report cards that list what they're good and bad at. It's a bit confusing. Some of the soldiers decide to take turns punching each other in the face over and over and over, which gives them a high grade in "punching" on their report card.
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