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If she wants a Miata, a CR-Z is not gonna scratch that itch.
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Any tips on buying a car that the seller owes money on (lender has title)? Guy seems genuine and this particular Prius already has almost everything I was planning to buy afterwards (extra set of wheels with snow tyres, catalytic converter shield, tow bar, even the aftermarket floor mats) and at a pretty reasonable asking price. PIZZA.BAT posted:My girlfriend is looking to buy her first car and this has caught her eye: https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/661e1dcd-3864-4652-af0b-cf3f7c5615f9/?aff=share_text With an older hybrid like that there’s always the possibility of the hybrid battery needing to be replaced; I am getting ready to Buy The Prius and that’s the biggest concern. (It doesn’t really matter that the miles are low, sitting around is actually worse for it, so you can use that as a negotiating point with the seller). If it’s like the Prius you can get a rough idea of its health in the moment, but can’t really make predictions. Definitely at least figure out what a replacement would run you and if you can afford it. I really like the look of the CRZ (and the CRX that it hearkens back to), I’d be looking at them myself if I didn’t need more boot space for gear. If she wants something a bit sportier and with a backseat there’s also the Hyundai Velostar.
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Sep 5, 2023 14:16
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Ethics_Gradient posted:Any tips on buying a car that the seller owes money on (lender has title)? The seller needs to talk to whoever they financed with an figure this out. Do not accept the vehicle or give money to anyone other than the bank who holds the note unless they tell you otherwise. Any more specific advice is 100% dependent on what bank totes his note. For example, if it's one that has retail branches the transaction should be pre-arranged through a branch so that you are paying the bank for the car. They will cut a check for overage to the "owner", or perhaps you will only pay the bank the amount of the outstanding note and the owner the rest. Since they hold the title they should be able to kick off the state specific process for getting the lien off of the title and into your name. In general, this simply isn't worth the trouble or risk for a buyer unless it's coming at a significant discount and is a difficult to find vehicle. You're talking about a Prius so it's not the latter. How about the former?
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Sep 5, 2023 14:21
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:If she wants a Miata, a CR-Z is not gonna scratch that itch. Completely agreed - not going to be even close in terms of how it drives. If she wants a Miata, have cash ready to go and just keep checking the listings and be ready to move when one comes up at the right year/price/whatever it is you are looking for. They've built a shitload of them over the years so they aren't impossible to get, but good examples of early cars are rare and in-demand.
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Sep 5, 2023 16:04
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Motronic posted:The seller needs to talk to whoever they financed with an figure this out. Do not accept the vehicle or give money to anyone other than the bank who holds the note unless they tell you otherwise. Yeah, there's definite risks involved. I bought my 330i private party and it had a loan out on it. Went to the guys bank and paid off the loan and they put the remainder in his account. Never give the person the money directly. They had the title on hand but wouldn't release day of because I paid with a cashiers check. So I had to rely on the person to go back to the bank once they released it, sign it, and then mail it to me. That's probably the riskiest part but with a bill of sale and all that I wasn't super concerned. I would have obviously preferred to leave with the title that day but it just doesn't always work like that.
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Sep 5, 2023 16:39
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Where local laws or bank processes delay the release of the title beyond the moment all the pieces of meat are in the same place, you should be using escrow services but also good luck getting people to agree to that and then pay for it. Even when it's as clean as I have all these sales documents you are moments away from very unfortunate visits to civil court to actually get your car or if you try to insure and drive it in the mean time (or even just park it at your property), adding some criminal court visits in the mix too. Lots of cars get traded on far more rinky dink title transfers without problem but when you do have a problem it's a big capital asset problem.
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Sep 5, 2023 17:22
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PIZZA.BAT posted:For full disclosure her heart is set on a Miata but those are more fleeting on the market so the CRZ will be the car she settles for if she can't find one Have you considered the Fiat 124, aka the Fiata Nobody seems to have heard of them, it's the Miata platform(ish) and slightly more unique (arguably better than the NB/C/D) styling. You  https://www.carmax.com/car/24460222 Hadlock fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Sep 6, 2023 |
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Sep 6, 2023 03:56
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as much as i’m sure she’d love that car that’s pretty far outside of her price range
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Sep 6, 2023 04:53
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Oh apologies I missed the budget target
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Sep 6, 2023 05:00
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Shouldn't you be able to get at least an earlier NC for that amount?
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Sep 6, 2023 13:32
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The Fiat version of a Miata, while looking better in my opinion, has a ticking time bomb under the hood.
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Sep 6, 2023 13:48
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Nitrox posted:The Fiat version of a Miata, while looking better in my opinion, has a ticking time bomb under the hood. What makes you say that? The Multiair engine has been extremely reliable.
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Deteriorata posted:What makes you say that? The Multiair engine has been extremely reliable.
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Sep 6, 2023 17:05
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:do it Done. Picked her up today.
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Sep 6, 2023 23:11
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davecrazy posted:Done. Picked her up today. Where's the burnout footage!?
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Sep 6, 2023 23:29
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davecrazy posted:Done. Picked her up today. How did you get home?
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Sep 7, 2023 01:13
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Zorak of Michigan posted:How did you get home? After the fuel pump went, flatbed tow truck.
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Sep 7, 2023 01:13
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davecrazy posted:Done. Picked her up today. And you haven’t yet created an AI project thread, why?
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Jean-Paul Shartre posted:And you haven’t yet created an AI project thread, why? funneling money to your local Stellantis joint doesn't count as a project
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Nitrox posted:All I know is that in other FSA cars, the multiair has a higher failure rate than naturally aspirated powerplants. Something about higher maintenance and more warranty claims overall. That's according to dealership techs, but I can try to find some actual data I love the look of the 124 but hate that it started down on power and ended realllyyy down on power after they bumped the ND's hp up after a few years. I'd love an Abarth if they weren't still carrying a ridiculous S2000-like premium
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It’s a quick and cheap tune away from being quite fast. Plus, the 124 had more power than the ND1 so not sure what you are talking about exactly.
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Sep 8, 2023 10:36
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:It’s a quick and cheap tune away from being quite fast. https://www.124spider.org/threads/fiats-1-4t-vs-miata-nds-2-0-power-comparison.2090/ Interesting discussion on this very subject
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Sep 8, 2023 14:16
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Good link. I seem to recall as well that while the ND2 has some improvements, they're mainly in the top end and on paper. https://www.facebook.com/flyinmiata...55439628156631/ Here's a FM dyno test. The ND2 mostly revs higher, which is obviously more fun and gives you some more runway for your shift points. But it's not quite the bump in performance that 26 hp would suggest.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Good link. I seem to recall as well that while the ND2 has some improvements, they're mainly in the top end and on paper. Revving it out past 7k kicks rear end, next you're going to argue that the AP2 S2000 engine was better because it did things like "make torque" and you weren't required to rev it to the moon. Jokes aside, I think that the power delivery of an N/A engine is more what the platonic ideal of a roadster would be, even though historically the BP Miatas were not that high revving and relatively torquey in the midrange, that's still nothing like the power delivery of modern DI turbo engines that run out of steam at 5k after pulling hard.
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Nitrox posted:https://www.124spider.org/threads/fiats-1-4t-vs-miata-nds-2-0-power-comparison.2090/ Is that Greg from Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles on YouTube?
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I rented a Euro spec 124 for a couple of weeks road trippin around southern Italy. While u wasn't ever driving hard, I don't remember feeling it was slow or needed a load more power. I'd happily have one for doing that kind of trip again.
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Sep 8, 2023 18:12
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KillHour posted:Where's the burnout footage!? The break by wire system kills throttle when you apply the break so it’s apparently not easy to do without aftermarket gizmos hooked up to the OBD port.
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Sep 8, 2023 22:09
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The Ford inventory search sucks so much, I just need to complain. No way to filter based on add-ons like sunroof or tow package. Cannot open a result in a new tab to look at the window sticker. Just need to click in and back. If you do that more than three times, it breaks and resets your search. I assume the dealerships can do a better search but I also assume they have no interest in selling us a car that some other dealer owns so may not be very useful?
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smackfu posted:The Ford inventory search sucks so much, I just need to complain. To my knowledge, they cooperate pretty well on inventory transfers, at least on the new stuff. My only direct insight is a Chrysler dealership, so the Ford experience may vary. When we bought our Pacifica back in the day, my brother-in-law was able to get what we wanted from another dealership about 2 hours away.
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Sep 17, 2023 20:24
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Dealer trading is a thing at GM too. Or was 20 ish years ago at the dealer I worked at.
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Dealer trades are definitely a thing but dealers may or may not be willing to execute trades on specific vehicles.
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So I've seen Maserati's on FB that are 6-8 years old going for less than $20k. Is that a scam, or does the value drop that much that quickly? I mean, I would not mind getting a 6 figure car for low 5 figures, would I just be flushing that money down the toilet?
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Lucid Nonsense posted:So I've seen Maserati's on FB that are 6-8 years old going for less than $20k. Is that a scam, or does the value drop that much that quickly? I mean, I would not mind getting a 6 figure car for low 5 figures, would I just be flushing that money down the toilet? You can find plenty of 6-figure when new cars for $20k or less when they are that old. It's because they are typically known maintenance pigs, full of fiddly courtesy features that break and/or fatal mechanical issues that all require parts. Parts that reflect the fact that they are $100k+ cars when new. This is the classic used BMW 7 series thing. Or "the most expensive porsche is the cheapest used one". Can they be good deals? Yes, if you do you own work, know what you're looking at so you can properly evaluate it, and know where to get parts for a good price (i.e. know people/the community with parts cars). I've been driving old porsches for most of my life. This is not a daily driver and/or only car thing. You need to have a backup plan.
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Lucid Nonsense posted:So I've seen Maserati's on FB that are 6-8 years old going for less than $20k. Is that a scam, or does the value drop that much that quickly? I mean, I would not mind getting a 6 figure car for low 5 figures, would I just be flushing that money down the toilet? The purchase price is (almost) irrelevant. The maintenance costs will eat you up. Multiply all ordinary maintenance and repair costs by 4.
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You would be better off, and have a more enjoyable time literally lighting 20,000 dollars on fire than buying a used Maserati. On the scale of luxury cars you don't want to own out of warranty, I'm pretty sure Maserati is number 1. I wouldn't even recommend it if you were a weekend mechanic with a lift, a full set of tools, and intimate knowledge on how to fix vehicles. There's a reason they've depreciated like that. If you're looking for a used luxury car almost any option is better than a used Maserati. I wouldn't take one for free from someone.
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Lucid Nonsense posted:So I've seen Maserati's on FB that are 6-8 years old going for less than $20k. Is that a scam, or does the value drop that much that quickly? I mean, I would not mind getting a 6 figure car for low 5 figures, would I just be flushing that money down the toilet? It's not the purchase price, it's the maintenance.
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Were they even 6 figure cars in the first place? I know that they were all optioned up to gently caress so ostensibly sticker price may have been high, but they also were deeply discounted new. If you're talking about a Ghibli or something I'd be surprised if the original buyer / lessee had paid >$100k.  I guess that 6 figure line matters a lot less than it used to, do people look at used Tesla Model Ses as 6 figure cars? I've seen too many lunatics posting about how the Model S is a supercar that deserves to be compared to Mercedes-Maybach and Ferraris and stuff.
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I was looking at Quattroportes from around 2016. I only drive about 3-4k miles per year if that makes a difference. Would it actually be something that would break down on the side of the road?
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Lucid Nonsense posted:Would it actually be something that would break down on the side of the road? 100% without a doubt on a regular basis. They are junk.
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Motronic posted:100% without a doubt on a regular basis. Lol. Thanks to the thread for talking me out of this. My '98 4Runner is still solid and sexy enough for me.
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