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Electro-Boogie Jack posted:This show is greatly improved from S1 imo, but it still feels like it's in a rush all the time. Slow down, bud. Take a moment. Let the scenes breathe. Give us more connecting bits and character moments. Really would be nice if we had 10 episode seasons instead of 8 but...oh well. 13 would have been ideal but 2 extra hours would be a lot.
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I'm not a book reader but in my mind I cannot accuse this show of rushing anything with its 70 minute episodes. I think events have flowed pretty nicely thus far, and the production values have gone up a notch. At this point Moiraine/Lan is the worst part though, so I hope they resolve that soon. I do wish they brought back those animated shorts from last season, they owned.
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Sep 7, 2023 08:03
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:Really would be nice if we had 10 episode seasons instead of 8 but...oh well. I mean, we get the equivalent of ~9.5 or so 55-60 minute episodes with the runtimes this season, but I don't disagree it still feels very fast.
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Sep 7, 2023 21:57
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Amazon hosed up and it's still not out 15m past airtime lol
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Sep 8, 2023 01:16
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On pacing againI think its partly the number of plot threads and not just a runtime thing. This season we already have the white tower prisoners, the novices, Rand, Moiraine, and Perrin all doing their own separate things. Im sure its not actually uniformly divided on screen time, but if it were that means we get less than 15 minutes for each subplot per episode.
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Sep 8, 2023 01:19
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Amazon!!!!!! Where's the fuckin ep
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Sep 8, 2023 01:24
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Sep 8, 2023 01:48
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Why does it seem like every actor has been directed to lower their natural voice by an octave?
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Sep 8, 2023 02:34
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The camera angle intercutting stuff in the Min/Ishamael scene is pretty novel, don't think I've ever seen that before
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Sep 8, 2023 02:39
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Find you a woman like Lanfear, who's so horny for you she'll stalk you across reincarnations 
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Sep 8, 2023 02:41
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Data Graham posted:The camera angle intercutting stuff in the Min/Ishamael scene is pretty novel, don't think I've ever seen that before That kinda came up in the dreams from Season 1 too. I suspect that Ishy was playing with her mind in that whole talk. It was a dream he interjected into her head. That plus the old ladies had a dreamlike quality to them.
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Sep 8, 2023 02:53
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Data Graham posted:The camera angle intercutting stuff in the Min/Ishamael scene is pretty novel, don't think I've ever seen that before I love how subtle it starts out where you just think "Oh, was that an editing error? Did they just jump cut between two different takes of the same season for some reason?" and then it REALLY takes off and you "Oooooh."
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Sep 8, 2023 03:03
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this show sure loves having characters give plodding exposition of their and others' motivations!!!
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Sep 8, 2023 03:07
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that ep kicked rear end, hell yeah. dream stuff was good, wolf stuff was good, moiraine stuff was good, lanfear was great. thoroughly enjoyed it
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Just starting the ep because I have actual work and stuff I don't often post itt because I'm very conscious of spoilers and I don't trust myself to avoid them, but I just wanted to comment on the blocking and camera movements in the first few minutes of the scene with Lan and Alanna. I've got a lot of thoughts on the adaptation in regards to the spirit of the adaptation versus the spirit of it, but I really do feel like this production is really trying to set itself apart and they're largely succeeding. The first season was hit-and-miss for me, but they've moved far enough from the source material at this point that any purist complaints I have have largely fallen away. Whatever the plan is, large scale, I've come to trust that they have a plan in mind. I've come to appreciate what they're doing with the time and budget that they have available. I still hold in my heart the big budget anime that could fully realize the series as a whole, but I do like and appreciate what the live action is doing with what they've got edit: ok that painting of moiraine and her younger sister was pretty stupid looking but I'm still in this CainsDescendant fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Sep 8, 2023 |
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Sep 8, 2023 05:35
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Rootin for Ishamael, he seems like a decent fellow
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Sep 8, 2023 05:40
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Still better for him than Egwene was tbh
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Sep 8, 2023 07:37
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Vim Fuego posted:Rootin for Ishamael, he seems like a decent fellow Best actor in the show and I love to hate him every time he is on screen. Reminds me of how I felt whenever Charles Dance had a scene in GoT
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lol easily the best episode in the series so far elyas, liandrin, and the ending were the best parts. i think liandrin's lil spat with the keeper was my favorite scene in the series, min's scene was a 10/10 too
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Sep 8, 2023 10:08
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nine-gear crow posted:I love how subtle it starts out where you just think "Oh, was that an editing error? Did they just jump cut between two different takes of the same season for some reason?" and then it REALLY takes off and you "Oooooh." A question for TV only viewers that did not read the books and have seen episode 4: What did you think of the Selene reveal? Did you catch anything beforehand or were you in any way suspicious of her before the reveal? Please do not reply or explain or whatever if you've read the books. We have the other thread for that.
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Sep 8, 2023 11:17
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DTurtle posted:Yeah, that was very well done. My non-book wife was like whats her deal anyway about 3/4 through the episode. She knew something was up with the way they spent so much time on her and also felt something was off with some of her comments around the dinner they crashed.
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Sep 8, 2023 12:25
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rafikki posted:My non-book wife was like whats her deal anyway about 3/4 through the episode. She knew something was up with the way they spent so much time on her and also felt something was off with some of her comments around the dinner they crashed. My non book reading wife felt the same way.
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DTurtle posted:Yeah, that was very well done. Not a book reader and yeah I suspected something was up with her, not due to any specific hints but any time someone in a story like this is "too good to be true" or just shows up out of nowhere and is even trying to avoid conflict you know on a meta level what's up, especially after she accepted him after his "reveal". If she would have been an actual "normal" person we would have gotten the usual character conflict but her just being "hey, that's actually no biggie" meta-understanding of (TV) stories make it obvious where that was going (and you could already expect that "turn" after the cold open to this ep, not many other female characters who could reasonably have been that person...).
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DTurtle posted:Yeah, that was very well done. My wife, who has never read the books, determined she was some flavor of evil very early on, and was extremely suspicious. She even guessed she was the Blood Lady because she decided the guy she keeps talking about being in love with is Ishamael.
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Thanks for the responses and happy for any more responses! If you can then  Getting opinions and reactions from people NOT in the know about something where there are long term payoffs is what makes these kind of no spoilers threads so good. Thats why the Babylon 5 no spoiler thread is the best on the forums.
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Even if you are in the know it is interesting to get takes from people who havent spent decades obsessing over the IP.
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Electro-Boogie Jack posted:This show is greatly improved from S1 imo, but it still feels like it's in a rush all the time. Slow down, bud. Take a moment. Let the scenes breathe. Give us more connecting bits and character moments. etc Might watch s2.... hmmm,
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As a book reader I was ready to be really mad at the series after the later half of season 1(I'll blame covid) but so far S2 is loving great. Great acting, consumes, set pieces and all that. Really loving it.
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lamentable dustman posted:As a book reader I was ready to be really mad at the series after the later half of season 1(I'll blame covid) but so far S2 is loving great. Great acting, consumes, set pieces and all that. Really loving it. Yeah more and more those last couple of episodes of Season 1 are looking like they made the best of an unimaginably lovely set of circumstances and then took it as a learning experience to come back and just knock it out of the park for Season 2.
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Hakkesshu posted:I do wish they brought back those animated shorts from last season, they owned. They have apparently already made a second season of that. It was supposed to come out last year. And then last month. And then last week. I don't think we know why it keeps failing to release, but if they keep to the same pattern I'd expect an infinite amount of release date announcements in the near future, hopefully followed by an actual release.
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lamentable dustman posted:consumes, set pieces pretty funny 25 years in retrospect that his tedious descriptions that became meme jokes actually translate really well on screen. i'm liking these aspects way more than rings of power
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Yeah, I liked how the windows in the Cairhien estate and the mirror in Moiraine's room had a very angular design. For non book readers, the city of Cairhien is laid out like this:
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So do I have this right? During the season 1 finale, they met Ishamael in the Eye of the World, and Rand thought he was rejecting the darkness by blasting him with light magic, but without knowing it he blew up the heartstone seal that was trapping Ishamael instead? And then when that merchant comes by offering to sell her the chunk of heartstone, she already knows that it means the seal has been broken for some other Forsaken and she just tricks him into selling her that poem, which tells her it was Lanfear? e: oh yeah, and why is Lanfear so special that she can't be killed with a sword through the heart and a knife through the neck? and why can't they just take the extra five minutes to roll her body into the fire or something and finish the job?
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Phenotype posted:So do I have this right? It's made pretty clear that nothing they can do would kill her, she says it outright, so what's the point of wasting the time?
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Phenotype posted:So do I have this right? I think youve got it right. Unclear whats going on with lanfear not being killable, presumably we will get some explanation for that.
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Devorum posted:It's made pretty clear that nothing they can do would kill her, she says it outright, so what's the point of wasting the time? Okay, but my question was why she's so unkillable, and why they wouldn't take the opportunity to, I dunno, chop her to pieces while she's momentarily helpless, on the basis that she can't get up to mischief if she's stuffed into five or six different sacks and then buried.
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Phenotype posted:So do I have this right? Yes. In the books the poem is discovered in a different way, and it is part of a known dark prophecy of followers of the Dark One. There's a lot more talk of prophecy in the books overall compared to the show so far. quote:e: oh yeah, and why is Lanfear so special that she can't be killed with a sword through the heart and a knife through the neck? and why can't they just take the extra five minutes to roll her body into the fire or something and finish the job? Watch And Find Out
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Phenotype posted:Okay, but my question was why she's so unkillable, and why they wouldn't take the opportunity to, I dunno, chop her to pieces while she's momentarily helpless, on the basis that she can't get up to mischief if she's stuffed into five or six different sacks and then buried. I think their logic would be that one fade showed up already, what if a group shows up while they're delaying?
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Phenotype posted:Okay, but my question was why she's so unkillable, and why they wouldn't take the opportunity to, I dunno, chop her to pieces while she's momentarily helpless, on the basis that she can't get up to mischief if she's stuffed into five or six different sacks and then buried. A sword is a great tool for making someone dead, but not great for hacking apart the body afterward. Moiraine clearly didnt know how long the killing would stick, and didnt bring an axe, cleaver, or whatever else to enact your plan. And you definitely dont want the unkillable quasi-godlike entity coming to while youre still in the room trying to remove bits of her body.
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