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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Bad news for African nationalists: it is clear that the “anti-colonial” uprisings in Central Africa are even worse than French neocolonialism. lmao what a joke
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Sep 9, 2023 16:54
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lol that history turd that i used to watch that i mentioned pages back made a new one called a NEW AXIS Iran-China-Russia, too bad this guy used to be decently neutral oh well time to find another one
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Sep 9, 2023 16:57
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HallelujahLee posted:lol that history turd that i used to watch that i mentioned pages back made a new one called a NEW AXIS Iran-China-Russia, too bad this guy used to be decently neutral oh well time to find another one yeah something about this conflict has made everyone pick sides hard and now people that used to be proud about being even handed are proudly just producing hosed up propaganda. Just talking about Russian soldiers as if they're cave men but still considering themselves objective free thinkers. What i don't know is if this means they were always poo poo or if this is a sign of how powerful and insidious the western psyop apparatus is.
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Sep 9, 2023 17:23
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Regarde Aduck posted:yeah something about this conflict has made everyone pick sides hard and now people that used to be proud about being even handed are proudly just producing hosed up propaganda. Just talking about Russian soldiers as if they're cave men but still considering themselves objective free thinkers. the money helps too im guessing
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Sep 9, 2023 17:25
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HallelujahLee posted:the money helps too im guessing yeah... that's another question, how many of these fucks are getting paid for this poo poo and whose doing it for free
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Sep 9, 2023 17:25
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im paid
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Sep 9, 2023 17:27
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Zizek is clearly doing out of love for the game. By game I mean posting.
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Sep 9, 2023 17:29
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Even if the US isn't directly funding these Youtube guys, the almighty algorithm is probably nicer to pro-US videos than pro-Russia videos, just on account of it seeming to suppress "foreign" content. As for brain breakage, I think the fact that this war wasn't started by the US (publicly at least, we'll see years from now) has suckered in a lot of people who might otherwise be skeptical of military adventures.
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Sep 9, 2023 17:32
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Nah, everyone drank the koolaid so hard on algorithms so they don't control it all that much. What they end up doing is just classic censorship by outright banning channels, people, users, and denying access to the public platform. But the algorithm is free to work it's magic on any content that slips past the attention of the censors.
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Sep 9, 2023 17:35
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Raskolnikov38 posted:was he always this stupid and people just fell for his dressing like a bum and double fisting hotdogs or is this a recent decline in intellect promoting dumb bogus dudes to the prominance of Leftist thought is a state perogative. see also and mostly focault. at least zizek probably isn't a pedo
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Sep 9, 2023 17:41
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the lesson everyone got from the Iraq war is that it was the one and only time the media and governments partnered to lie, nothing systematic drove that lie, and it’s fixed now because bush is gone (also bush is nice now). now we’re in the truth zone where Russia is doing this simply because they’re evil, Ukraine exemplifies everything western liberals believe, Russia has been humiliated in every battle and has been out of ammo the entire time, but also they are somehow not collapsing and somehow taking territory and out shooting Ukraine with their zero ammo, but that’s okay because Ukraine is still mowing the mindless Russians down in waves, but also for some reason the war is in the balance and Ukraine needs even more support to have a chance.
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Sep 9, 2023 17:43
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V. Illych L. posted:tisdal has been advocating open war with russia for at least a year at this point. in a way it's refreshing to see someone take the official line completely on face value and to its logical conclusion; it clarifies things somewhat. of course, it's quite deranged, as such things often are. Yeah, that's a good way of putting it: if Putin actually was a genocidal maniac bent on mass death and destruction, then this would indeed be the appropriate response, and you'd expect all politicians and public figures to be echoing it. There's such a gulf between words and actions (sending a few shotgun shells and putting a Ukraine flag on their Twitter bio) for most people.
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Sep 9, 2023 17:58
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Neurolimal posted:Even if the US isn't directly funding these Youtube guys, the almighty algorithm is probably nicer to pro-US videos than pro-Russia videos, just on account of it seeming to suppress "foreign" content. due to complaints, they dramatically changed the algorithms to fix this and then fairly recently of course RT is just straight banned
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Sep 9, 2023 18:07
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examples of how the algorithms used to work not too long ago: https://www.washingtonpost.com/tech...dog-group-says/ quote:When the report by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III came out last week, offering the most authoritative account yet of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, YouTube recommended one video source hundreds of thousands of times to viewers seeking information, a watchdog says: RT, the global media operation funded by the Russian government.
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Sep 9, 2023 18:10
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Yeah the algorithm works as designed until someone notices undesirable information getting attention and has to go in and censor it.
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Sep 9, 2023 18:36
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Lostconfused posted:Yeah the algorithm works as designed until someone notices undesirable information getting attention and has to go in and censor it. Essentially why Twitter wasn't a problem until Musk fired the people in charge of censoring "contrary narrative" stuff
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Sep 9, 2023 18:38
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Zizek wrote a book about Lenin, it's probably not good
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Sep 9, 2023 18:44
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slava zizek
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Sep 9, 2023 18:59
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Lenin already wrote perfectly adequate books himself anyhow
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Sep 9, 2023 19:03
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gradenko_2000 posted:Bad news for African nationalists: it is clear that the “anti-colonial” uprisings in Central Africa are even worse than French neocolonialism. I'm gonna (actionable threat) zizek
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Sep 9, 2023 19:03
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Don't the Ukrianians know you're supposed to use Toyota
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Sep 9, 2023 19:16
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seems like it went to a new home where its owner will actually take care of it. the ukraine is like someone always asking to borrow your stuff and then you see it rusting to hell in their yard.  e: they camo'd the loving headlights lmao
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Sep 9, 2023 19:22
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all i see is four tires and an EU license plate????
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Sep 9, 2023 19:30
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Admittedly, youtube's pretty strong curbs on military/guns related content ironically hits pro-Ukrainian channels as much as pro-Russian ones. The Azovboo from Forgotten Weapons is always complaining about it and other channels are as well. I think it is possible to curate content, but you've got to ban like 10-20 channels like Zeihan, Infographics, and Vexler to get there. If you type in "Ukraine" without logging into your account, that and just random Western news sites. I just did it and I couldn't even find anything vaguely neutral.
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Sep 9, 2023 19:44
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Spaced God posted:all i see is four tires and an EU license plate???? italy 🇮🇹 reminds me when david beckhams land rover was stolen and turned up as an official government ministers car in ukraine/georgia/similar
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Sep 9, 2023 19:46
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I don’t think they need to do much curation because there’s 100+ years of self-reinforcing (and for long stretches, mandatory) propaganda in the west about how Russians are subhuman monsters who can only succeed at anything by human wave tactics.
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Sep 9, 2023 19:48
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Best Friends posted:I don’t think they need to do much curation because there’s 100+ years of self-reinforcing (and for long stretches, mandatory) propaganda in the west about how Russians are subhuman monsters who can only succeed at anything by human wave tactics. Honestly, I don't think most people care in all honesty, if you look at polls in the US, support is weaker than you would think. A lot of it is an all in push but media/tech companies, including Google. It is why if/when it goes completely sour I think it is going to get a little choppy.
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Sep 9, 2023 19:53
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Ardennes posted:Honestly, I don't think most people care in all honesty, if you look at polls in the US, support is weaker than you would think. A lot of it is an all in push but media/tech companies, including Google. It is why if/when it goes completely sour I think it is going to get a little choppy. tbh - I don't think it matters - the government doesn't care about the will of the people, and americans are quite accustomed to their government engaging in ultra violence all over the world whether or not they "support" it. it's a stupid loving culture war thing here. the tech company thing is definitely weird though - i don't work in tech, but I was involved in a project and was helping research some open source libraries and I found that nearly all the websites for the big open source libraries/frameworks all have tons of "We support Ukraine" poo poo all over them - still to this day. It was a pretty stark contrast because if I didn't read this thread, I wouldn't even know the war is still going on - i hear literally no one ever talk about it (and obviously I don't read the ny times). My "theory" is that tech companies have been the big users of ultra-cheap ukrainian labor and that's why, but not sure if anyone has a different perspective
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Sep 9, 2023 20:32
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at least in my daily life nobody talks about ukraine what-so-ever people are too busy rightfully complaining they can barely afford to live
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Sep 9, 2023 20:49
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HallelujahLee posted:at least in my daily life nobody talks about ukraine what-so-ever people are too busy rightfully complaining they can barely afford to live It came up at a wedding I was attending and I was shocked and disgusted to find that I was surrounded by loving tankies. Self described "Ukrainians" who have family in Ukraine who wanted me to know that there was more going on over there and in the leadup to the war than what is in the news over here. **I mean me and my boss have a thing where we argue and speculate over the more absurd aspects of the war, like debating who blew up the pipeline or why Prigozhin marched on Moscow and why he stopped, but you aren't wrong that nobody else I know ever talks about any of this poo poo. If it ended tomorrow it would barely make a ripple in the public consciousness. Starsfan has issued a correction as of 20:59 on Sep 9, 2023 |
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Sep 9, 2023 20:54
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Starsfan posted:It came up at a wedding I was attending and I was shocked and disgusted to find that I was surrounded by loving tankies. Self described "Ukrainians" who have family in Ukraine who wanted me to know that there was more going on over there and in the leadup to the war than what is in the news over here. tankies all around
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Sep 9, 2023 21:00
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I know you guys talk about Manhattan people have their Ukraine flags up, I work in Manhattan and I have never seen any UA flag personally. I was over in Toronto over the weekend and had to laughed when I saw a Ukraine flag in full display in the middle of the City Hall square. Slava
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Sep 9, 2023 21:01
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I see plenty of Ukrainian flags in the NE burbs. But its a war even more invisible than the 20 years in Afghanistan, AFTER 20 years in Afghanistan has numbed everyone to such enthusiasm.
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Sep 9, 2023 21:02
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gradenko_2000 posted:Bad news for African nationalists: it is clear that the “anti-colonial” uprisings in Central Africa are even worse than French neocolonialism. starting to really hate that oval office
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Sep 9, 2023 21:07
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Are you ready for the hype train? Cho cho! https://twitter.com/MrTruth53191706/status/1700481736340291991?t=qu6VWmlAjWWNatbC3PrJ2A&s=19
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Sep 9, 2023 21:22
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I still see Ukraine flags now and then on my commute to work (live near but not in a major city) but it's very infrequent. Support for supplying Ukraine was almost universal in the beginning but has very much become polarized now, I think I've seen a poll or two that has a plurality saying no more aid for the first time. Regardless, it's always been a low-importance issue for the public and most people don't care. This despite it still getting plenty of news coverage. Barring a drastic shift in the situation - Ukraine being on the verge of defeat or victory - I doubt it will be a significant topic for the 2024 elections
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Sep 9, 2023 21:23
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Vomik posted:My "theory" is that tech companies have been the big users of ultra-cheap ukrainian labor and that's why, but not sure if anyone has a different perspective I don't know why they would bother when there is a much larger and far more technically competent tech workforce to draw from India. Ukraine is a backwater by comparison
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Sep 9, 2023 21:26
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KomradeX posted:Don't the Ukrianians know you're supposed to use Toyota I used to work on these exact cars and the thought of one being used in a literal warzone with the expectation of it doing something useful is the best chuckle I've had all week, great stuff
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Sep 9, 2023 21:26
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Slavvy posted:I used to work on these exact cars and the thought of one being used in a literal warzone with the expectation of it doing something useful is the best chuckle I've had all week, great stuff I see this kind of stuff all the time on facebook because of my Ukrianian friend. I could fill this thread with screenshots of the stuff he shares. Its just too bad that facebooks translations are such unintelligible garbage
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Sep 9, 2023 21:29
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I really don't see many more Ukrainian flags now in the New York metro than I did before the war honestly. Never seen one in Manhattan outside of like a Russian/Ukrainian restaurant in the village.
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