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Shrecknet posted:Closed registration is what keeps Bluesky good. As soon as you can create a bluesky account with the same ease of setting up a throwaway gmail,  Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Sep 11, 2023 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I remember when gmail was invite-only. I remember when Facebook required a university email login. 
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I’m just glad I don’t use Twitter anymore. bsky-social-uorwg-4qeeu bsky-social-7ofoq-jdrob bsky-social-vsmxp-o365q
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I remember when gmail was invite-only. Nervous posted:I remember when Facebook required a university email login. I remember both of these, and I hate you both for reminding me.
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Shrecknet posted:Closed registration is what keeps Bluesky good. As soon as you can create a bluesky account with the same ease of setting up a throwaway gmail, it becomes worthless and overrun with bots and nazis. Honestly it should stay invite-only forever, but keep giving out invites. It makes the number of accounts finite, which means if you make a bot and it gets banned, you need to find/scrounge up another invite. The longer they go providing a quality user experience, the longer tail they'll have when they inevitably open the floodgates to advertisers for the enshittification stage. Yes. I agree. It keeps the quality up. But it also prevents Bluesky from being what Twitter was, which was my point - that there is currently no clear successor to Twitter and I don't think there will be. I think Musk killed the concept of the singular dominant monolithic social media platform for the near future.
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I'll still give it a shot. It would be nice to have one social media thing I didn't hate. Will keep peepers peeled for invite codes
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Yes. I agree. It keeps the quality up. But it also prevents Bluesky from being what Twitter was, which was my point - that there is currently no clear successor to Twitter and I don't think there will be. I think Musk killed the concept of the singular dominant monolithic social media platform for the near future. Facebook and Instagram are way more dominant than Twitter was at its peak. There’s a reason lots of 3rd party websites use FB authentication.
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is the bar for making burner gmail accounts actually low? last time i checked, gmail and various "legit" privacy email services, and more other "legit" services required some sort of phone verification. so theyre paygated by proxy. so again , why not just have an account sign up fee.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Yes. I agree. It keeps the quality up. But it also prevents Bluesky from being what Twitter was, which was my point - that there is currently no clear successor to Twitter and I don't think there will be. I think Musk killed the concept of the singular dominant monolithic social media platform for the near future. He certainly killed the singular dominant, monolithic social platform that he bought, but the concept hasn't been harmed by his antics. People will want to be on a single network that has everyone they know and want to know on it and is easy to access, nothing he's done has affected that. There's no clear successor yet, but the market isn't going to move to a fragmented group of invite-only networks either.
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PhazonLink posted:so again , why not just have an account sign up fee. That's an awful idea, nobody would ever use a site like that.
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PhazonLink posted:is the bar for making burner gmail accounts actually low? I have 2 burner gmails, 1 of which I used for this awful site when I needed to post my email for whatever reasons. I’ve lost access to both accounts now because they refuse to let me log in without texting me a code. I think I also tried making a burner gmail in the last year or so for a video game and again it requires a phone number now.
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hadji murad posted:I’m just glad I don’t use Twitter anymore. Despite them all being used up I will acknowledge this post and say thanks.
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Been meaning to share these. bsky-social-5wzxg-gyv4j bsky-social-gkt3j-vvha6 bsky-social-dfzpe-3hjxt bsky-social-4rpgi-lzqne bsky-social-z6b47-ge6zv bsky-social-whghy-swgqs Enjoy!
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cochise posted:Been meaning to share these. Thanks, I grabbed LZQNE.
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cochise posted:Been meaning to share these. Thank you Goonsir!
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PhazonLink posted:is the bar for making burner gmail accounts actually low? Considering I've been getting hundreds of spam emails of the same format from different presumably non-verified gmail accounts since Friday, I'm going to say that this bar isn't very high.
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Another 5 that Bluesky just shat out after the previous ones were used.  bsky-social-4isi2-rr33c bsky-social-qaiew-sbdvp bsky-social-l6wx3-4bvjz bsky-social-eskgy-bcuxi bsky-social-go4pv-tav2j
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Nabbed the last invite code. Thanks 
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Come one come all bsky-social-hk45b-i54cf bsky-social-oukk6-apexu
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Grabbed bsky-social-l6wx3-4bvjz, thanks
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Szmitten posted:Despite them all being used up I will acknowledge this post and say thanks. Thank you. This made me feel better about my goonerosity.
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Twitter wasn't actually the single monolithic social media platform at any point, it was basically comparable to reddit in it's actual popularity, but it was the single social media platform all the journalists and academics posted on so it got an outsized treatment in the media landscape. Wherever all the journalists and academics end up congregating when the dust settles will basically then be the new twitter in that sense.
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Sounds like Jack Dorsey left Bluesky So, I guess that resolves that problem. More information on this: 
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What does any of that mean?
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davecrazy posted:What does any of that mean? Basically, there's been this perception that Dorsey has been running things at Bluesky, due to investing early in the platform and there's been hesitation among people looking to leave Twitter that he's just going to repeat the same mistakes he made at Twitter. But him getting chased off the platform basically shows that he had little control.
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What does the status of Dorsey's social media account have to do with his role in the social media company's corporate governance? If Zuck deleted his Facebook account, we wouldn't start speculating that he'd been "chased out" of Facebook.
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Is this the right place to ask for Bluesky follow recs? I like comedy, video games, and leftist takes on politics that don't cross the line into infotainment
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Our new shame-based pricing model.  https://twitter.com/alexsteed/status/1702407639085588642?s=20
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I think paying to hide your likes is a big enough tell that you might as well just leave them open.
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Main Paineframe posted:What does the status of Dorsey's social media account have to do with his role in the social media company's corporate governance? If Zuck deleted his Facebook account, we wouldn't start speculating that he'd been "chased out" of Facebook. When you're part of the public face of a company there's an expectation that you use your company's product, even in limited amounts. I would think for social media that expectation would be much higher. Zuck deleting his account would at least be notable even if he's not tossed from the board or something. Hell even in government there's a somewhat similar expectation of visible presence.
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Adenoid Dan posted:I think paying to hide your likes is a big enough tell that you might as well just leave them open. Obviously the next step is paying for fake plausible AI-generated likes
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If this feature existed years ago then we’d have never found out that Ted Cruze likes milf porn. Who can say if this is a good or bad feature.
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The dumb way that Dorsey structured Twitter led directly to its takeover and destruction by Musk, so he's as much to blame for what's happened to the "public square" and thousands of jobs as Musk is. So it's definitely worth worrying about how much control he has over Bluesky.
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Name Change posted:The dumb way that Dorsey structured Twitter led directly to its takeover and destruction by Musk, so he's as much to blame for what's happened to the "public square" and thousands of jobs as Musk is. So it's definitely worth worrying about how much control he has over Bluesky. Musk was offering to so overpaying for it that I feel like just about any structure still would have lead to it's takeover and destruction other than 'jack dorsey personally owns all of twitter'
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Name Change posted:The dumb way that Dorsey structured Twitter led directly to its takeover and destruction by Musk, so he's as much to blame for what's happened to the "public square" and thousands of jobs as Musk is. So it's definitely worth worrying about how much control he has over Bluesky. unless you mean something other than "dorsey structured twitter as a corporation" i have no idea what you're talking about, and a corporation is an entirely normal way to structure a business i mean if i owned twitter and elon musk offered me $44b for it, you better believe i'd have sold it too. one of the few morons who would not sell at that price, ironically, was dorsey himself who rolled over his equity and has lost stupendously hilarious amounts of money.
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I think they're talking about how Facebook is still permanently controlled by Zuck because his personal holdings are a different stock class that holds outsize voting power and no one can buy enough of the public class to dislodge him if he doesn't want to be dislodged The only response to that is that not every company can be Facebook (thank god) haveblue fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Sep 15, 2023 |
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haveblue posted:I think they're talking about how Facebook is still permanently controlled by Zuck because his personal holdings are a different stock class that holds outsize voting power and no one can buy enough of the public class to dislodge him if he doesn't want to be dislodged That is essentially it, yes, and the Musk intrigues are not the first time that Twitter has gotten into trouble with activist investors. quote:Twitter lacks a crucial defense against activist shareholders that Silicon Valley peers like Facebook and Google enjoy: It has only one class of stock. That means Mr. Dorsey has no special super-voting shares that give him outsize control of the company, leaving him vulnerable if enough shareholders side with Elliott. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/business/dealbook/elliott-twitter-jack-dorsey.html The other issue is that Dorsey by pretty much all accounts was as mercurial and disinterested in competently managing Twitter as Musk is, given he was fired from the job twice. As opposed to running his brand of being a Steve Jobs figure. So, yes, you can't really blame the board or Dorsey when Musk wants to radically overpay for a perennially underperforming, increasingly irrelevant/stagnant company. But it's the structure of the company and Dorsey's absentee leadership that led to this.
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 "All Jews should die"? No problem. "Joke threats against billionaires"? UNFORGIVABLE.
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Dick Trauma posted:Our new shame-based pricing model. lol, this just turns into extortion if used. "Keep paying or everyone will see all of your 🌶️spicy🌶️ likes"
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Name Change posted:That is essentially it, yes, and the Musk intrigues are not the first time that Twitter has gotten into trouble with activist investors. investors only tolerate that kind of stuff if the founder is regarded as competent instead of a burnout, and it is exceptionally rare historically, it's just a handful of tech companies had founders with the clout to do it at one moment in time because they, personally, were viewed as critical to the success of the company. twitter did have a poison pill, but the thing you have to remember is: elon musk offered easily twice what twitter was worth. twitter is a for-profit company and wants to be bought for twice its value. its investors want it to be bought for twice its value. something that stops elon musk from dumping way too much money on twitter would have been bad for twitter. plus dorsey is hardly someone you wanted to lock in as eternal god-emperor of twitter, the guy is a burnout moron, he just looks vaguely better than elon musk which is not high praise
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