Jezza of OZPOS posted:

who the gently caress is even the opposition leader atm bc i have no idea

Anidav posted:

A former journalist for The Australian, Former Media Advisor to John Howard, real estate developer and a Gold Coast local.

David Crisafulli.

He describes himself as a "decentralist" as in opposition to left and centrist politics as well as believing that the government should not be centralised in Brisbane. A strong opponent of transgender rights and backs banning them from sport all together, opposes the voice and if elected has pledged to roll back the ban on Property Developer donations, roll back being able to change your gender on birth certificates and drivers licences and wants to bring back Newman's Independent School classification which allows public schools to exit the public education system and become private schools

Anidav posted:

A former journalist for The Australian, Former Media Advisor to John Howard, real estate developer and a Gold Coast local.

David Crisafulli.

He describes himself as a "decentralist" as in opposition to left and centrist politics as well as believing that the government should not be centralised in Brisbane. A strong opponent of transgender rights and backs banning them from sport all together, opposes the voice and if elected has pledged to roll back the ban on Property Developer donations, roll back being able to change your gender on birth certificates and drivers licences and wants to bring back Newman's Independent School classification which allows public schools to exit the public education system and become private schools

lih posted:

crisafulli has had pretty much no scrutiny so far so it's probably still possible for him to throw the election by talking too much about all the deranged right-wing stuff he wants to do but hopefully if the lnp do win they'll just repeat newman and manage to lose after a single term due to doing a bunch of terrible poo poo everyone hates

quote:

During Question Time, Mr Dutton asked Mr Albanese to “withdraw his Voice referendum, so we can avoid an outcome which sets back reconciliation and divides the nation”.

With support for the Voice plummeting in all opinion polls, Mr Dutton told Mr Albanese “it is clear the referendum will not be the moment of unity the 1967 referendum delivered”.

Non Compos Mentis posted:

https://twitter.com/_wkelly_/status/1701133414026686651

NPR Journalizard posted:

lol. With what trigger?

Non Compos Mentis posted:

https://twitter.com/_wkelly_/status/1701133414026686651

Recoome posted:

lmao Australia about to put first nations recognition in the same bin as the republic

freebooter posted:

loving annoying to see people compare it to 1967 which made an actual, tangible difference to the rights and lives of Indigenous people.

The more that I actually read about the Voice (per the Yes campaign's request) the more I come around to the Lidia Thorpe school of thought. I'll still vote Yes out of inner-city latte-sipping white obligation, but it's hard to get enthusiastic about something this milquetoast. Which is maybe why the Yes campaign hasn't been able to raise anything stronger in their support than the Dennis Denuto defence.

Bald Stalin posted:

Bunch of white people voting to do nothing and feeling better because of it lmao

Engage with Thorpe's argument. Explain how she's wrong.

Mola Yam posted:

a No result won't usher in an "era of reckoning" wtf. Like that's actually delusional.

There is no universe in which a No result is interpreted as "wow I guess it wasn't progressive enough, playtime is over, let's get outright revolutionary with Indigenous issues", either by the general public or by any of the political parties.

iajanus posted:

So they're waiting on things that will never happen. Cool.

Bald Stalin posted:

Voting no won't do anything, so you should vote yes which won't do anything except make whitey feel good about themselves. I am very smart.

Good argument. Great help.

BrigadierSensible posted:

Electric Wrigglies posted:

Well yeah, can you imagine being white and letting slip you voted no?

Recoome posted:

lmao Australia about to put first nations recognition in the same bin as the republic

birdstrike posted:

At a fundamental level people should be consulted about policies which specifically affect them and if it works as planned the Voice will help shape more effective policies.

It also needs to be in the constitution so the Liberals can’t abolish it in the first week they win back government.

Recoome posted:

what’s the point of a treaty?

Bald Stalin posted:

So you're just admitting that this isn't about land rights and black sovereignty

Bald Stalin posted:

it's actually about stopping really bad poo poo happening to white folk instead of slightly less bad poo poo happening.

Guardian AU posted:

Lidia Thorpe has called for the voice referendum to be called off, arguing it is an “easy way to fake progress” for First Nations people without making any changes.

The independent senator told the National Press Club on Wednesday a no victory would reveal Australia as a racist country, despite herself advocating for people to vote no.

Thorpe attacked the Albanese government’s push to enshrine an Indigenous voice in the constitution, describing it as a “powerless advisory body”, “window dressing for constitutional recognition” and an “insult” to First Nations people’s intelligence.

Bald Stalin posted:

So long as you feel good who cares

hooman posted:

Actually I feel like poo poo about this.

Bald Stalin posted:

Join the BPU or ACP and get involved then feel much better

Or just read some theory