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zoux posted:Can’t share it because it’s being embargoed under Twitters anti hate policy (lol) but this tweet she liked is in the replies, so you can get there from here Thanks. I don't remember which cycle, but there was also a Green Party VP candidate who was palling around with Holocaust deniers. Edit: With some bonus Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 pontificating that aged real well https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-wild-beliefs-of-ajamu-baraka-jill-steins-green-party-running-mate Quixzlizx fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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So does the Green Party not have mechanisms to eject these people or what
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No American party has mechanisms to "eject" people like that, at least not strongly. Local parties can pass various kinds of mostly symbolic censure, and you might have a very hard time winning a primary if everybody in party leadership hates your guts, but in general the parties have very little control over who calls themselves a member.
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Quorum posted:No American party has mechanisms to "eject" people like that, at least not strongly. Local parties can pass various kinds of mostly symbolic censure, and you might have a very hard time winning a primary if everybody in party leadership hates your guts, but in general the parties have very little control over who calls themselves a member. I guess it's just usually the GOP that loud about it
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RBA Starblade posted:I guess it's just usually the GOP that loud about it The Republicans can't eject people either. Liz Cheney can still run as a Republican if she wants. She'll just get absolutely dumpstered in the primaries because the base loathes her.
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zoux posted:Can’t share it because it’s being embargoed under Twitters anti hate policy (lol) but this tweet she liked is in the replies, so you can get there from here This tweet wouldn’t be that bad on its own, but combined with the other one, yikes. The Rainbow Coalition started by Fred Hampton was a combination of the Black Panther Party, the Young Lords, and the Young Patriots. The YP were southern whites living in Chicago that used the confederate flag at their meetings. The Young Patriots were a leftist org though. So despite hanging confederate battle flags around, they actually shared a lot of the same ideas of the BPP. I don’t think you’re going to find too many organizations hanging that flag around and still being leftist these days. Feels like cynthia McKinney probably started with this idea of having poor black and white people working together is good, but decided to go down the anti-Semite path, which is sad and stupid.
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Quorum posted:No American party has mechanisms to "eject" people like that, at least not strongly. Local parties can pass various kinds of mostly symbolic censure, and you might have a very hard time winning a primary if everybody in party leadership hates your guts, but in general the parties have very little control over who calls themselves a member. While that is generally true, we're not discussing randos who caucused with the Greens. We're discussing their past presidental/VP nominees, those chosen by the party to lead the country. The party absolutely chooses who will lead, and we're looking at it.
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Killer robot posted:While that is generally true, we're not discussing randos who caucused with the Greens. We're discussing their past presidental/VP nominees, those chosen by the party to lead the country. The party absolutely chooses who will lead, and we're looking at it. Well no, we're looking at who they nominated over 15 years ago.
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From McKinney's wikipedia page it looks like she was already saying Jews did 9/11 by 2008. Maybe the question isn’t "why didn't the Green Party expel her for saying Jews did 9/11" but "why did the Green Party choose a candidate who was saying Jews did 9/11".
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Bird in a Blender posted:This tweet wouldn’t be that bad on its own, but combined with the other one, yikes. The Rainbow Coalition started by Fred Hampton was a combination of the Black Panther Party, the Young Lords, and the Young Patriots. The YP were southern whites living in Chicago that used the confederate flag at their meetings. The Young Patriots were a leftist org though. So despite hanging confederate battle flags around, they actually shared a lot of the same ideas of the BPP. I don’t think you’re going to find too many organizations hanging that flag around and still being leftist these days. McKinney probably had some anti-Semitic beliefs from the beginning. Back in the 90s, she had to kick her dad off her election staff because he had an unfortunate habit of publicly making anti-Semitic comments about her opponents. While there wasn't any particular indication at the time that she agreed with him on that, she sure fell into anti-Semitic conspiracy theories awfully quickly after her political career petered out. She lost her Senate seat in 2006, ran for president in 2008, and by the end of 2009 she was hanging out with Holocaust deniers and quoting from books with titles like "The Shadow Money-Lenders". It's entirely possible that she held such views all along, but was smart enough to realize that voicing those views wouldn't exactly help her win elections. Killer robot posted:While that is generally true, we're not discussing randos who caucused with the Greens. We're discussing their past presidental/VP nominees, those chosen by the party to lead the country. The party absolutely chooses who will lead, and we're looking at it. I don't think she's meaningfully involved in the Green Party anymore. She pretty much dropped out of politics more than a decade ago. As for why she was picked in 2008, don't forget that the Greens tend not to have a whole lot of great options. In the 2008 Green Party Convention, she was the only candidate who had ever won an American political election before. Forced to choose between a former senator and a bunch of nobodies who couldn't even win city council seats, I don't think they needed to dig very hard into McKinney's record before making a decision.
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Fister Roboto posted:Well no, we're looking at who they nominated over 15 years ago. If you'd like to check my link above, 2016 wasn't 15 years ago. That's not even mentioning that the presidential candidate was hanging out in Moscow with Michael Flynn at RT banquets.
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zoux posted:Remember Cynthia McKinney, the six-term Georgia congresswoman who came to national prominence when she said that Bush did 9/11 in April of 2002? Or you might remember that she had an altercation with Capitol police in 2006 because they didn't recognize that she was a member and stopped her (this was where I first found out about the Congressional Pin)? IN 2008 she was the Green Party candidate and got 0.12% of the vote and that's more or less the last I ever heard of her. But she's still around. Why do these people always have such poor design skills? It’s like antisemitism is comorbid with making poo poo that’s loving impossible to read.
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She really missed her timing. In 10 years when the Republican party splits into the Conservative Big Business Party and the Racist Meme Party she would have done gangbusters in the latter.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Why do these people always have such poor design skills? It’s like antisemitism is comorbid with making poo poo that’s loving impossible to read. What happened to that guy who made the extremely detailed conspiracy theory photoshops? It could be his fault.
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James Garfield posted:What happened to that guy who made the extremely detailed conspiracy theory photoshops? It could be his fault. David Dees Died
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I AM GRANDO posted:Why do these people always have such poor design skills? It’s like antisemitism is comorbid with making poo poo that’s loving impossible to read. Maybe anything too well-designed gets met with suspicion by the intended audience. Kinda like how those recent nazi groups get written off as FBI false flags because they look too well-funded and organized due to the matching uniforms.
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Push El Burrito posted:She really missed her timing. In 10 years when the Republican party splits into the Conservative Big Business Party and the Racist Meme Party she would have done gangbusters in the latter. another funny missed timed poo poo post was Milo "pedo poo poo is actually okay". He would still get canceled by regressives because they want stealthy/invisible gay token, and not his gimmick where he calls himself the f word.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Why do these people always have such poor design skills? It’s like antisemitism is comorbid with making poo poo that’s loving impossible to read. Same reason Nigerian Prince scammers put tons of typos and obvious tells in there, you only want to attract the absolutely most credulous people in the world
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How does the military work? https://twitter.com/halbritz/status/1701340908845719554
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Charlz Guybon posted:How does the military work? Tuberville is astoundingly stupid, and in a Congress that includes such "geniuses" like Louie Gohmert that's saying a lot.
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Is Tuberville really that much of a dumbfuck or is he just playing at being oblivious while obstructing as hard as he can? I honestly can't tell anymore.
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Queering Wheel posted:So if that's true, do we have any other reliable way to tell how popular a politician or position on an issue really is, or how an election will probably go? Do we just go off of things like vibes? The polls are still reasonably accurate. There is just a larger margin of error. If a race is going to be decided by 2 points and you know: Candidate A is getting somewhere between 48% and 54% of the vote. Candidate B is getting somewhere between 46% and 52% of the vote. Then, you can't get a really clear feeling for who is going to win from the data. You can use your best guess to assume that Candidate A is slightly more likely to win, but can't say so definitively. If you run those polls a lot and Candidate A is closer to the 54% most of the time and Candidate B is closer tot he 46% most of the time, then you can assume that Candidate A likely has more support. If something is way outside of the margin of error (~12 points in either direction), then you can safely assume that even the wonkiest margin of error results won't change the result. The problem is that most major elections are decided by less than 4 points. So, if you are relying on a single poll (especially one 1.2 years before the election), then it is basically impossible to tell who is actually winning unless the margin is huge. You also have problems where national polls don't technically describe who will win the election because of the electoral college.
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Another example of Biden's policies causing average Americans to spend thousands of dollars just to keep living their life the way they always have.quote:Incandescent light bulbs are now largely banned, so one fan spent a paycheck stockpiling 3,500 bulbs he said should last 75 years https://www.businessinsider.com/man-buys-incandescent-light-bulbs-stockpile-ban-2023-9
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Randalor posted:Is Tuberville really that much of a dumbfuck or is he just playing at being oblivious while obstructing as hard as he can? I honestly can't tell anymore.
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The WSJ has an interesting article where they got a focus group comprised entirely of people with the exact same birthday as Joe Biden and asked them their thoughts about his age. https://twitter.com/AndrewRestuccia/status/1701585127879414067 quote:Is Biden Too Old to Run Again? We Asked People Born on His Exact Birthday https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy...share_permalink
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Byzantine posted:Most of the time when people try to claim Christianity amalgamated or stole ideas from other religions it's coming from the angle of discrediting it. A noble goal, but one which drives people to grab ideas separated by thousands of years and thousands of miles (Horus, Yule, Krishna, Mithras, Sol Invictus, etc) and claim they all somehow swirled together around...nothing, since they claim there's no historical Jesus. There’s also a whole rear end ethnicity that wrote half the Bible and it got codified in Babylon like 800 years before dear friend Josh was born, just sayin, it’s kinda our mythology too
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FlamingLiberal posted:His only career accomplishment is being a college football coach, what does your heart tell you ... my heart is just kinda shrugging and asking if that needs to be an "or" question.
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FlamingLiberal posted:His only career accomplishment is being a college football coach, what does your heart tell you Having seen what good college football coaches earn, I'd kill for that career.
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FlamingLiberal posted:His only career accomplishment is being a college football coach, what does your heart tell you Hey now, there's been Tuberville is not one of them. He's not even a meathead, just a moron.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Another example of Biden's policies causing average Americans to spend thousands of dollars just to keep living their life the way they always have. He should tokenize these and sell them as NFTs.
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Boris Galerkin posted:He should tokenize these and sell them as NFTs. But we already have Litecoin
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McCarthy plans to announce impeachment proceedings against Biden tomorrow. He has 18 Republicans who have not signed on yet (only 1 Republican has said they are against it, though) and he can only afford to lose four total. The impeachment will dramatically narrow in scope from previous accusations to try and better provide a clear reason and narrative for the impeachment without getting bogged down in the specific claims. The two areas of focus will be: 1) Interference at the DOJ to protect Hunter Biden from federal charges and arrange a "sweetheart" plea deal. 2) The idea that Biden was accepting bribes indirectly through Hunter Biden from 2013 through 2019. Even though none of the money went to Joe Biden, they allege that the foreign entities paying Hunter Biden were doing so in exchange for official favors from Joe Biden that were favorable to China as well as Kazakhstani and Russian-affiliated oligarchs in Ukraine. The payments to Hunter prevented Biden from having to support his son, so they were in effect a payment to Joe Biden that was sent to Hunter Biden instead. They also expect that the White House won't comply with all of their document requests and are prepared to add obstruction of justice to the impeachment charges as well. https://twitter.com/politico/status/1701600159736709332 quote:Speaker Kevin McCarthy is planning to announce to his GOP conference on Wednesday morning that the House will move forward with an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden, a source familiar with the plan confirmed to POLITICO. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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He's been terrible at counting the votes so far. While I think this will probably pass, there's a non-negligible chance that he won't get the votes.
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I mean, even if the votes.go through... okay, congrats, we know that means nothing because Trump was impeached twice and nothing mattered. Congrats, McCarthy, you proved you had more seats in the house. Do you want a gold star?
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Poverty rate doubled and median income dropped in 2022 with the rollback of pandemic programs. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/12/business/economy/income-poverty-health-insurance.html quote:Poverty increased sharply last year in the United States, particularly among children, as living costs rose and federal programs that provided aid to families during the pandemic were allowed to expire.
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Randalor posted:I mean, even if the votes.go through... okay, congrats, we know that means nothing because Trump was impeached twice and nothing mattered. Congrats, McCarthy, you proved you had more seats in the house. Do you want a gold star? https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1701616529404465290 He doesn't have the votes. How is this different from a voted-on inquiry?
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Randalor posted:I mean, even if the votes.go through... okay, congrats, we know that means nothing because Trump was impeached twice and nothing mattered. Congrats, McCarthy, you proved you had more seats in the house. Do you want a gold star? They don't give half a sideways flying gently caress about it at that point. They'll have their whataboutism ammunition for Fox to slop into the trough of their squealing hog viewers, and that's all they care about. As long as they can use the word "Impeached" for Biden their propaganda will do what it's meant to do.
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To me, the saddest part of all of this dumb poo poo is that all of it is so goddamn obviously true yet we can't all agree on it. By that I mean, yes Trump did try to overturn the election, yes Biden and McConnell and Feinstein and the rest of the geriatric fucks are too goddamn old, yes Biden's failson got easy gigs and got paid because he is Biden's son, yes Paxton used his position to gently caress his sidepiece and get kickbacks, yes to all of that and more. Vote them out, arrest them, do it all, this is such a clown show.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1701616529404465290 None, just more embarassing. Gumball Gumption posted:Poverty rate doubled and median income dropped in 2022 with the rollback of pandemic programs. The child poverty rate is pretty wild. The expanded child tax credit was a decent amount of cash, but making it a monthly payment seems to have had a significant impact as well. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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haveblue posted:But we already have Litecoin Meet the "Incoindescent" fork
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