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“Since 2000, North Korea's birth rate has exceeded its death rate; the natural growth is positive. In terms of age structure, the population is dominated by the 15–64-year-old segment (68.09%). The median age of the population is 32.9 years.” I think we all know what’s about to happen here.
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Sep 12, 2023 03:35
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Vampire Panties posted:
Unless the exoatmospheric kill vehicles from the Vandenberg GMDs do their jobs
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Sep 12, 2023 03:36
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I live in San Diego. Unless Ronald Reagan-class carriers have a previously unknown, 100% unerring ballistic missile intercept system, it'll be over instantly.
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You will find that TEMPLE GRANDIN OS has graciously offered up balls to be nuked, please respect testicular sovereignty in this thread  the popes toes posted:Not nuke grifting but grifing nonetheless Was this plain old pocket lining, or was there an agenda to the profiteering?
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Sep 12, 2023 03:37
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Uh anyone else heard this news about Ukraine retaking oil rigs in the Black Sea..with loving Russian jets involved??? What the gently caress it's a loving movie level battle Jesus Christ https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-war-latest-ukraine-regains-control-of-boyko-towers-drilling-rigs-in-black-sea/ Russia jets flying overhead, Ukrainian special forces just putting rounds down at high speeds in boats. Like just an overall crazy operation with some high loving stakes. Literally a cod mission WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Sep 12, 2023 03:39
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Curly Shuffle posted:While it's amusing to think that Poland might acquire more HIMARS than the U.S. Army, I think the 486 number is for the modules containing the rockets that they swap in and out of the vehicle to reload. That makes way more sense and makes the big argument in the thread about this funny.
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Sep 12, 2023 03:51
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Uh anyone else heard this news about Ukraine retaking oil rigs in the Black Sea..with loving Russian jets involved??? You call yourself a gamer yet you reference cod instead of the obvious Mother Base
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Sep 12, 2023 04:30
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Zero VGS posted:You call yourself a gamer yet you reference cod instead of the obvious Mother Base The Big Shell is real, it was just in the Black Sea instead off of NYC Arsenal Gear is the Russian Troll Farm and X My god...
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Sep 12, 2023 04:40
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Coolguye posted:none of the nukechat matters because unless you, personally, are willing to gamble hundreds of thousands of lives on what amounts to your gut feeling that the other guy is bluffing, you have to assume that he's telling the truth and he can in fact kill hundreds of thousands of people with an order. One of the more terrifying things from pro-urkaine folks was seeing some idiots saying "ehh, bring it, we can take a few million dead, and a few metropolises gone and then we flatten them with conventional arms" and "MAD is not a deterrent anymore because we're far more ready to embrace death" and I'm like 
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Sep 12, 2023 05:01
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Fusion Power is 50 years away!
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Sep 12, 2023 05:04
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redshirt posted:Fusion Power is 50 years away! eh, could be sooner, could be later, in case of a materials science breakthrough
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Sep 12, 2023 05:12
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I am a literal expert in nuclear warfare and the things I had to learn in order to become one was enough to crack ping this entire thread 50 times over. As bad as people think nuclear war would be, even in the most generous limited exchange, it would be so much worse it's almost impossible to describe using written word. For gently caress's sake we had to invent a new unit of measurement in order to be able to account for the amount of dead in ANY nuclear war scenario
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Sep 12, 2023 05:12
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Some people apparently think they'd eitherbe instantly incinerated and thus do not have to care or they would not be hit and somehow their chicken tendie lifestyle would in no way be affected and thus they do not have to care, with literally no room in between for "you are alive and very much envy the dead"
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Sep 12, 2023 05:14
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Since I am limited on time RN I won't go into extreme detail but. 
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Sep 12, 2023 05:14
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Ronwayne posted:Some people apparently cannot conceive of any situation in which they are either instantly incinerated and thus do not have to care or they would not be hit and somehow their chicken tendie lifestyle would in no way be affected and thus they do not have to care, with literally no room in between for "you are alive and very much envy the dead" the ones instantly incinerated are the luckiest mfers on the planet
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Sep 12, 2023 05:15
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Hell yeah work sucks.
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Sep 12, 2023 05:20
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Ronwayne posted:Some people apparently think they'd eitherbe instantly incinerated and thus do not have to care or they would not be hit and somehow their chicken tendie lifestyle would in no way be affected and thus they do not have to care, with literally no room in between for "you are alive and very much envy the dead" Anyone who saw Threads on release as a teenager has fewer illusions on this than you might think. 
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Sep 12, 2023 05:28
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TulliusCicero posted:The Big Shell is real, it was just in the Black Sea instead off of NYC I thought MGS2 writing was too farfetched in 2001, but Kojima is basically Nostradamus https://twitter.com/Ryan_Socks/status/936754025101488128
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Sep 12, 2023 05:31
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Ronwayne posted:One of the more terrifying things from pro-urkaine folks was seeing some idiots saying "ehh, bring it, we can take a few million dead, and a few metropolises gone and then we flatten them with conventional arms" and "MAD is not a deterrent anymore because we're far more ready to embrace death" and I'm like  anyway my thoughts on world politics are ((recites a symptom list of major depression))' poo poo.
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Sep 12, 2023 05:40
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Ronwayne posted:One of the more terrifying things from pro-urkaine folks was seeing some idiots saying "ehh, bring it, we can take a few million dead, and a few metropolises gone and then we flatten them with conventional arms" and "MAD is not a deterrent anymore because we're far more ready to embrace death" and I'm like
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Sep 12, 2023 05:40
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Cugel the Clever posted:I don't think I've seen that argument anywhere, so much as a lot of warranted skepticism toward the current readiness levels of Russian nuclear forces. For a country with a true nuclear triad there is no such thing as a decapitation strike. Russia, as bad off as it is, would be able to respond no matter what people think of their "readiness".
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Sep 12, 2023 05:49
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Cugel the Clever posted:I don't think I've seen that argument anywhere, so much as a lot of warranted skepticism toward the current readiness levels of Russian nuclear forces. I'm old enough to remember in 2016 when people talked like Hillary was going to maybe do air patrols over Syria, which would immediately, axiomatically and directly lead to Russia ending the world. As if somehow Russia's nuclear weapons were a blanket ticket to whatever conquest or military adventure they wanted to try for. If that applies to Russia, doesn't it also apply to all other nuclear states?
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Sep 12, 2023 05:49
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Ronwayne posted:One of the more terrifying things from pro-urkaine folks was seeing some idiots saying "ehh, bring it, we can take a few million dead, and a few metropolises gone and then we flatten them with conventional arms" and "MAD is not a deterrent anymore because we're far more ready to embrace death" and I'm like this is possibly one of the only takes whatsoever that I have never seen anywhere i'd highly recommend spending less time in any space where you see people saying poo poo like that
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Sep 12, 2023 05:50
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Nessus posted:This whole war has also exposed a lot of (the kind of) people (who are paying attention to it) to a great deal of 'Russia says they're definitely seriously gonna light the candle now' and a bunch of people saying, in essence, "we should give Russia whatever they want, because the downside is too great to consider." gently caress, I remember all the talk about "KILLARY KKKLINTON WILL END THE WORLD IN NUCLEAR HELLFIRE" I saw practically everywhere both from useful idiots and anyone supporting Trump.
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Sep 12, 2023 05:53
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Just Another Lurker posted:Anyone who saw Threads on release as a teenager has fewer illusions on this than you might think. On one hand, I saw Threads. On the other hand, I saw Mad Maxes. Thus far, I'm undecided on nuclear war.
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Sep 12, 2023 05:56
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zone posted:gently caress, I remember all the talk about "KILLARY KKKLINTON WILL END THE WORLD IN NUCLEAR HELLFIRE" I saw practically everywhere both from useful idiots and anyone supporting Trump.
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Sep 12, 2023 05:56
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Just Another Lurker posted:Anyone who saw Threads on release as a teenager has fewer illusions on this than you might think. ^^^^ JFC that film is grim. Firmly on a dont watch twice list
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Sep 12, 2023 05:58
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read a few of the Deathlands books for the most accurate representation of nuclear post-apocalyptic life, ngl. Deathlands is my favorite bad pulp fiction. I own all the books and I'm rebuying them all on audiobook because I'm a crazy person but for real consume Deathlands fiction in some form. its so much loving fun Threads was okay but not remotely close to the best one. Watch The Day After for a better version of Threads (and more accurate, weapon and effect wise) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyy9n8r16hs
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Sep 12, 2023 05:59
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Cugel the Clever posted:I don't think I've seen that argument anywhere, so much as a lot of warranted skepticism toward the current readiness levels of Russian nuclear forces. There were definitely some op-eds to that tune a few months into the war. The main thrust was that surely Russia would limit itself to a tactical strike and that both the response and the response to the response would be a level-headed and restrained expansion of conventional war and probably not lead to a general nuclear exchange.
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Sep 12, 2023 06:03
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I read a collection of "Barefoot Gen" my local library had, which was plentythe holy poopacy posted:There were definitely some op-eds to that tune a few months into the war. The main thrust was that surely Russia would limit itself to a tactical strike and that both the response and the response to the response would be a level-headed and restrained expansion of conventional war and probably not lead to a general nuclear exchange. And I could well see the answer to that being "No," but buddy I'm glad not to actually take the risk.
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Sep 12, 2023 06:04
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HonorableTB posted:read a few of the Deathlands books for the most accurate representation of nuclear post-apocalyptic life, ngl. Deathlands is my favorite bad pulp fiction. I own all the books and I'm rebuying them all on audiobook because I'm a crazy person There are 150 of these books
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Sep 12, 2023 06:07
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bad_fmr posted:On one hand, I saw Threads. On the other hand, I saw Mad Maxes. Thus far, I'm undecided on nuclear war. I intend to become the Bisexual Warlord of the Wastes and dress like a Mad Max villain. Join me!
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Sep 12, 2023 06:07
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the holy poopacy posted:There were definitely some op-eds to that tune a few months into the war. The main thrust was that surely Russia would limit itself to a tactical strike and that both the response and the response to the response would be a level-headed and restrained expansion of conventional war and probably not lead to a general nuclear exchange. These people are idiots. They are dangerous, omnicidal idiots that should not be listened to under any circumstances sleepy gary posted:There are 150 of these books In fairness, the series has been going on since I think 1986, under multiple ghost writers all using the pen name James Axler. They are a REMARKABLE look at pop culture in the late cold war and through the early 1990s and the books themselves show the metamorphosis in thinking vis a vis nuclear war and the Cold War as the Cold War itself draws to a close during the early books of the series and you see the books' tones change as the USSR becomes the Russian Federation and the Fukuyama "End of History" era takes full effect I wish I was kidding because these are absolute garbage pulp novels (which is part of what makes them so fun!!!) but that also makes them so, so much more effective in reflecting the zeitgeist of the time at which they were published. Another good example: you can tell when the big grunge music boom hits the US because the books, which use a traveling setting from book to book, start taking place in the pacific northwest and specifically around Seattle which would not happen before 1991 or again after Cobain killed himself HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Sep 12, 2023 06:07
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Herstory Begins Now posted:this is possibly one of the only takes whatsoever that I have never seen anywhere I've seen a bunch of people being excited about NATO literally invading Russia, which would amount to the same thing.
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Sep 12, 2023 06:10
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sebmojo posted:I've seen a bunch of people being excited about NATO literally invading Russia, which would amount to the same thing. I've seen nothing like it, and anything remotely related is in obvious jest.
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Sep 12, 2023 06:13
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redshirt posted:I've seen nothing like it, and anything remotely related is in obvious jest. I have definitely seen some sentiment along these lines, usually from very nationalist minded eastern europeans who have a generational axe to grind with Russia specifically. Many of my polish friends with families who suffered under the soviet union fit this description, every time I tell them about a possible Russian provocation of NATO many will respond with the shark grinning meme threatening to hit the article 5 button and their hatred of Russia is visceral. Hard to blame them, one of these friends had grandparents murdered at Katyn by the Russians. Russia has not been remotely kind to anywhere in Eastern Europe, whether as part of the USSR or not
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Sep 12, 2023 06:15
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Nessus posted:This whole war has also exposed a lot of (the kind of) people (who are paying attention to it) to a great deal of 'Russia says they're definitely seriously gonna light the candle now' and a bunch of people saying, in essence, "we should give Russia whatever they want, because the downside is too great to consider." I think this does explain some of the "then launch the loving nukes, coward, I'm sick of listening to you threaten it" talk. It explains mine, anyway, finding that kind of appeasement rhetoric extremely distasteful. Not that I'd actually be sanguine about nukes getting used, but taking away that cornerstone of their argument (presumed agreement that nukes must be avoided at any cost, and therefore we have to preemptively surrender) can be less aggravating than actually picking it all apart.
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Sep 12, 2023 06:18
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any mention of nukes should be officially met with the jerkoff emoji by global leaders
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Sep 12, 2023 06:21
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Nessus posted:It seems like an open question if Joe Biden, Vlad Putin, and Xi Jinping would really end the world if Putin decided to drop a nuclear weapon on a Ukrainian formation. I mean I can buy that everyone might manage to collectively slam the brakes in time but the idea that NATO would open up with conventional forces and Russia would just politely stand down their nuclear arsenal while their army is dismantled is pure warhawk masturbation.
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Sep 12, 2023 06:27
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the holy poopacy posted:I mean I can buy that everyone might manage to collectively slam the brakes in time but the idea that NATO would open up with conventional forces and Russia would just politely stand down their nuclear arsenal while their army is dismantled is pure warhawk masturbation. Any kinetic engagement between Russia and NATO in any kind of even halfway serious capacity is going to result in a nuclear exchange eventually and I don't think anyone in a decision making capacity is under any delusions otherwise
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PinheadSlim posted:Played too much Skyrim and think that if you accidentally kick someones chicken the entire town will murder your rear end Yeah, the reaction is gonna be more like a call over the diplomatic channel saying "We're watching you....SCUM!"
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