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pik_d posted:X-Ray says the Darkfriend Social is in Tel'aran'rhiod as well. I typoed, I meant episode 1 of this season. The social. Hexel posted:The TAR symbol is on the vase that Liandrin smashes during Nynaeve’s test. Sorta. There's a swirl, but it ties into the symbol of the aes sedai.  To me that doesn't really imply the actual symbology of TAR like that candle clearly does, cause it's seems to be more of an extension of the flame and fang. But like, it's similar enough that it could be.
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Omnomnomnivore posted:I think this thread is the only place online for "very interested in this show as an adaptation, not upset about all the changes, but wouldn't really recommend it to anyone else". Yeah, I'm fine with them changing some stuff up because it's impossible (and would be bad) to cram 10,000+ pages into a TV show and the nature of TV means some things are going to have to change since you can't replace cast members whenever an immortal gets cut up or someone gets stilled* and sometimes an actor will just leave the show for ~*~reasons~*~ and you need to pivot. But the show is also suffering from being cut down to 8 episodes a season, plagued with studio notes, and has suffered multiple production shutdowns outside of its control that have all made it not a great production. Oh, and the guy they cast as Rand is bad at acting. I'm still interested in where they go with it as a curiosity but it's not good TV. *this change with Moiraine is one I really don't like and think has made the show much worse Joementum fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Sep 11, 2023 |
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I'm not sure anyone has ever solved the problem of needing to write filler to keep an actor around when the character drops out of the source material, which is what's going on with Moiraine.
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Omnomnomnivore posted:I'm not sure anyone has ever solved the problem of needing to write filler to keep an actor around when the character drops out of the source material, which is what's going on with Moiraine. She doesn't do much in TGH, true, but once Rand goes to the Waste she becomes a lot more important and that's supposedly happening this season, But the challenge her character is supposed to overcome is that Rand doesn't trust her and refuses her advice. Instead, the show has had him follow her along without much complaint from the start, to a somewhat ridiculous degree at the end of the last episode. Joementum fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Sep 11, 2023 |
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Sep 11, 2023 21:04
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I do wonder what their plan is for her killing off Lanfear. It’s such a big moment for a lot of characters, if she just kinda stays, a takes a lot of character motivations away.
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Sep 11, 2023 21:05
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Joementum posted:She doesn't do much in TGH, true, but once Rand goes to the Waste she becomes a lot more important and that's supposedly happening this season, vvv Egwene hasn’t even been captured yet. Falme (the battle) can’t be episode 6. Rand hasn’t even captured the Stone yet. Why would he head to the Waste? They haven’t even introduced any real Aiel yet. DTurtle fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Sep 11, 2023 |
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Sep 11, 2023 21:15
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DTurtle posted:Season finale is Falme. Why would Rand need to go to the Waste? The way the pacing in this show is simultaneously plodding and character oriented, and lightning fast burning through huge book plotlines all at once, I wouldn't be surprised if Falme is like episode 6 and Rand hops into Rhuidean in the finale. Episode 7 will be dedicated to Lan and Moiraine being mad at each other for 70 minutes.
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DTurtle posted:Season finale is Falme. Why would Rand need to go to the Waste? That is book 4 stuff. This is show production spoiler stuff so some of the actors playing Aiel were teased before the season started and Aviendha is credited in three episodes this season But I agree, a lot of stuff gets hosed up if they don't resolve Falme before heading to the Waste because Egwene needs to come with them.
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Joementum posted:This is show production spoiler stuff so some of the actors playing Aiel were teased before the season started and Aviendha is credited in three episodes this season The Aiel start showing up from the middle of book 2, it doesn't mean they're going into the Waste
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Omnomnomnivore posted:I think this thread is the only place online for "very interested in this show as an adaptation, not upset about all the changes, but wouldn't really recommend it to anyone else". Yeah you nailed it
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I think it's possible that they're going to throw a swerve at expectations and have Falme happen in E6, with them journeying to the Waste afterward. I think Rhuidean (or at least coming into sight of the city) probably makes sense as a cliffhanger ending . There are production photos and scenes in the trailers that show Rand in a place that looks A LOT like the Waste. Could be a dream or foretelling, though. I think they've decided to mix things up and have the fall of the Stone happen AFTER Rand's journey to the waste.
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Joementum posted:This is show production spoiler stuff so some of the actors playing Aiel were teased before the season started and Aviendha is credited in three episodes this season
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I wouldn't be too concerned about skipped locations. The show can introduce them once teleportation is in play if they're critical.
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In what book does skimming and traveling first appear i forget?
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Rand started using it in FoH. It's implied earlier. E: the end of the first book has to be some kinda traveling even tho it isn't named there E2: I'm wrong. The end of the fourth book Rand uses it to go to Rhuidean E3: lol the end of the third book Rand follows Ishamael into Telanrhoid (sp?) then back into the real world which basically gave him the idea to travel and skim Shageletic fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Sep 11, 2023 |
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Hexel posted:In what book does skimming and traveling first appear i forget? He skims to chase Asmo in TSR
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They could find one of those traveling stones that showed up in TGH, even if they obviously won’t be how Rand meets Lanfear.
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They could just put them there and never explain how they got there or how much time had passed
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Yea probably since that’s what they’ve been doing so far.
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[extremely Bayle Domon voice] Moiraine Sedai, I do be finding this scroll that do be titled “Traveling: How To”. You do be wanting it?
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Shageletic posted:Rand started using it in FoH. It's implied earlier. Functionally, yeah, we get a TAR portal at the end of TDR, skimming at the end of TSR, and travelling at the end of TFOH. e: Actually, wait, I take it back. I don't think we really know enough about skimmimg to be able to say that it wasn't in EotW. bio347 fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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It seems likely that they're folding a lot of book 3 into book 2. So i assume the season will end at falme, then season 3 will at least start with the wastes/the two rivers with my current guess being that the white tower split happens earlier and they have that be elayne/nyns plot and skip the circus/tancheco
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Couldn't that have been a mistake? The set up scene lists 'Somewhere in Tairhien' Makes a lot more sense for someone's child to be at the meeting if it's not in TAR. My immediate thought upon seeing the child running around during a darkfriend meeting was that they are at the home of one of the darkfriends and the child is that darkfriend's child.
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Every time she shows up I mourn Robert Z'dar anew..
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Nion posted:Makes a lot more sense for someone's child to be at the meeting if it's not in TAR. My immediate thought upon seeing the child running around during a darkfriend meeting was that they are at the home of one of the darkfriends and the child is that darkfriend's child. It was weird that it said the whole thing took place in the dream world. I just figured it was like how in the books the Forsaken would just compel someone random noble somewhere and take their poo poo, especially as why would Trollocs and a kid be there?
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Humble bundle has all the WoT comics for $18, plus some other extremely thirsty looking comics https://www.humblebundle.com/books/...ooks_bookbundle
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In the books it says that normal people can touch T'A'R in their sleep accidentally, like if you have an especially vivid nightmare it could have happened there. That little girl just happened to have the worst, most vivid nightmare ever where she's getting chased by trollocs into a horrible looking dismal mansion and there's all these Forsaken around a table and the big-nosed one picks her up and talks to her about monsters and takes her back outside to touch a monster, but it wasn't mean after that mommy, it was kinda funny. And then I woke up!
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Omnomnomnivore posted:I'm not sure anyone has ever solved the problem of needing to write filler to keep an actor around when the character drops out of the source material, which is what's going on with Moiraine. You make it animated
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Every time she shows up I mourn Robert Z'dar anew.. One of the recent episodes mentioned her "cheekbones" and I was like .... I guess,
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Finally got caught up, and I'm still firmly in the "enjoying the show for what it is, it's better than the end of s1 for obvious reasons, it's not an extremely faithful adaptation but I never expected one" camp. Lanfear is much more competent and scary in the show imo, a bit less of the "ha ha you fell for my cunning disguise, I'm actually slightly older and hotter".
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Invalid Validation posted:Yea probably since that’s what they’ve been doing so far. I'm still working my way through the thread but I had to hop forward to ask - my dude, do you secretly hate these books? I have never seen someone post so consistently and vehemently negatively about something they supposedly enjoy. Actually, no, that's a lie, I've seen it on LOTR and Doctor Who discussions
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Just got thru the Egwene Power montage in KoD and what a loving montage it was. Egwene consolidating and combining all the hosed up and hardening experiences she has withstood, from being captured as a damane, to becoming an Auel basically, to dominating a Forsaken, to gently caress poo poo up in the Tower and just roll over everyone. It's the apotheosis of her character development in the series so far and it's a wonder and joy to read. It also combines Jordan's best and worst traits as an author. Best for the above and how 11 books of buildup enhances and elevates everything. And worst because, and so Jordan-y, it centers on Egwene coming to enjoy being spanked. Robert Jordan, you gotta love him loooool.
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I wouldn’t have read every book if I “secretly hated” it. If you want absolute gushing over it then go to Reddit or dm Cainfortea.
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We know from a season trailer that there's a big scene between Rand and Siuan where they discuss how he doesn't want to be a spoke on the wheel and she's like "My brother in Creator, what are you talking about?" If that happens in Episode 6, then Falme is probably the season finale and all that talk about how they're cramming all of books 2 and 3 together was wrong. If it happens after Falme because Falme is Episode 6, the Stone of Tear is absolutely the season finale. One of those two events will pay off that conversation as the climax of the season to set up the next phase of Rand's journey. No way in the world they do the entire Waste storyline in ONE episode to end with Rhuidean, which is what people are suggesting if they think it'll be the finale because then Falme has to be Ep. 6 and the Stone Ep. 7. The number of characters and amount of world building they'd need to cram into an hour would make Season 1 look like a 52 episode anime season.
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They've said book 4 is season 3.
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If Tear was going to be the finale I think they'd have done more to set it up by now. It's not been mentioned once this season
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If I’m being brutally honest TSR, FoH, and LoC are the height of the series for me so I’m fine with them doing a lot of their condensing in the other arcs. Frankly if we don’t even hear the words “bowl of winds” in the tv show I’ll be fine with it.
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Speaking of the Stone of Tear, am I the only person who thought it was really weird that The Sword That Is Not A Sword never once played into Aiel beliefs regarding swords?
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I wonder if they'll save the stone of tear for a later season since in the books Rand uses Callandor once then sticks it back into the floor for several books. They could also wait to introduce balefire until whatever season Rand fights Rahvin.
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