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Plenty good has come of it for the world at large, I don't think anything good is coming of it for working class people involved in our directly affected by the conflict.
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Herbert Stencil posted:Plenty good has come of it for the world at large, I don't think anything good is coming of it for working class people involved in our directly affected by the conflict. It may be better for quite a few Ukrainian citizens that are Russian speaking, it really depends. It wasn't a war that needs to be fought and there was at least briefly an offramp but it is clear one way or another this is going to be a fight to the finish. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 07:02 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Sep 12, 2023 06:55
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fizzy posted:Bad news for Zelenskyy - The USA is definitely getting ready to replace Zelenskyy with someone more pliable to the USA's objectives. Don't make me post the picture
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Sep 12, 2023 07:12
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fizzy posted:Zelenskiy has made securing EU and NATO membership - both complex processes - the top foreign policy priorities. What exactly is Ukraine able to do to expedite these complex processes? They just keep saying "let us join" and "let us join right now" but are they bringing anything to the table that they haven't already given? Seems like EU governance, Schengen, Eurozone, all that would be detrimental to Europe while benefitting Ukraine, so why bother when the country is being fully picked apart without any of that in place?
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Sep 12, 2023 07:19
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Dokapon Findom posted:What exactly is Ukraine able to do to expedite these complex processes? They just keep saying "let us join" and "let us join right now" but are they bringing anything to the table that they haven't already given? Seems like EU governance, Schengen, Eurozone, all that would be detrimental to Europe while benefitting Ukraine, so why bother when the country is being fully picked apart without any of that in place? Basically, the assumption is the US promised and it is a matter of time before it bullies both organizations into letting them in even though Ukraine is a massive liability. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 07:34 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Sep 12, 2023 07:21
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Ardennes posted:It may be better for quite a few Ukrainian citizens that are Russian speaking, it really depends. It wasn't a war that needs to be fought and there was at least briefly an offramp but it is clear one way or another this is going to be a fight to the finish. I guess that's probably true, a lot of ethnic minorities are going to be a lot better off than they were under Ukrainian rule.
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Sep 12, 2023 07:26
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Ardennes posted:Basically, the assumption is the US promised and it is a matter of time it bullies both organizations into letting them in even though Ukraine is a massive liability. Mr. Zelensky, You may want to sit down because I have some bad news about American promises.
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Sep 12, 2023 07:27
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BearsBearsBears posted:Mr. Zelensky, You may want to sit down because I have some bad news about American promises. No poo poo. These people have never opened a history book! 
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Sep 12, 2023 07:30
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BearsBearsBears posted:Mr. Zelensky, You may want to sit down because I have some bad news about American promises. America is the light that will slay the one true evil in the world...the lack of a mansion in Florida.
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Sep 12, 2023 07:35
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fizzy posted:Good news for Ukrainian soldiers who wish to continue serving in the front-line after losing a limb - Ukrainian soldier Artem Kholodkevych is an inspiring example for such Ukrainian soldiers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6frs86Szk_0
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Sep 12, 2023 07:51
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Dokapon Findom posted:No poo poo. These people have never opened a history book! They were not necessarily selected for their roles based on traits like intelligence and competency.
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Sep 12, 2023 08:01
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BULBASAUR posted:My personal take is that it will be more like the DMZ in Korea. Now that the decoupling has happened, and so much bad blood is in the water between players, I don't see any peace really going down, especially since Ukraine has nothing to bargain with, and the west played its rotten hand for everyone to see. The bad blood is of course not between the people, but more geopolitically. Still, without change in leadership Russia will continue integrating with China and give a frigid shoulder to America and her colonies. I don't really see a restoration of relations in my lifetime between anyone involved... generations of hate and a new global landscape. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I don't see it. We've made an enormous amount of arms sales, and that's what matters.
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Sep 12, 2023 08:07
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Yeah we legitimized nazis all over the world, reinforced a kleptocracy, created a global rift for generations to come, and possibly initiated world war three, but for one shining moment, we drat well created some shareholder value
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Sep 12, 2023 08:19
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Herbert Stencil posted:I guess that's probably true, a lot of ethnic minorities are going to be a lot better off than they were under Ukrainian rule. Good news for ethnic minorities in Ukraine - Ukraine is prepared to make changes to its laws on minority rights to unlock EU agreement later this year on opening accession talks https://www.ft.com/content/d7eec05d-c2a8-4e75-965d-74db16dfe6b3 Kyiv open to minority rights concessions in quest to join EU Ben Hall in Kyiv 4 HOURS AGO Ukraine is prepared to make changes to its laws on minority rights to unlock EU agreement later this year on opening accession talks, its deputy prime minister has said. Olga Stefanishyna, who is in charge of Ukraine’s drive to join the EU, told the Financial Times Kyiv was prepared to make “additional amendments” to rules on secondary education in minority languages, including Hungarian, as long as a balance was struck with teaching in Ukrainian. The issue has become the biggest potential obstacle to the start of formal EU membership negotiations with Kyiv. The bloc’s leaders are due to decide in December whether to begin talks, but Hungary’s prime minister Viktor Orbán has repeatedly threatened to veto the process over the minority rights issue, accusing Kyiv of “Hungarophobia”. Ukraine has dozens of minorities — Zakarpattia province in western Ukraine is home to an estimated 80,000 ethnic Hungarians — and protecting their rights is one of seven reform benchmarks demanded by the EU before it opens membership talks. Ukrainian officials will this week begin bilateral talks with Hungary and Romania to try to iron out an agreement on the balance of Ukrainian and minority language education in secondary schools. “We will amend the legislation on national minorities and we can put additional amendments [into law] if needed, but we need to have the [bilateral] negotiations first,” Stefanishyna said. However, the deputy prime minister said ethnic minority Ukrainians needed to be taught enough Ukrainian so they could pursue further education or job opportunities outside minority areas. She said the current rules that had introduced more mandatory Ukrainian language teaching were working well: “A balance has been found and it is working. So we really need to assess that.” Officials in Kyiv and Brussels fear Orban, an ally of Moscow, has no interest in finding a solution to the education issue and will use it as an excuse to block the start of accession talks in December. The Venice Commission, an advisory body on constitutional law attached to the Council of Europe, has also said Ukraine should protect the language rights of Russian speakers. Stefanishyna has previously expressed confidence the EU would not hold up the start of talks over that issue. The European Commission said Ukraine had fully met two of the seven benchmarks for starting talks — on media freedom and judicial reform. It will assess progress on the other five — minority rights, anti-corruption reforms, anti money laundering rules, anti-oligarch laws and constitutional court reform — later this autumn. Stefanishyna also indicated Kyiv was prepared to change course on the reintroduction of a mandatory asset register covering some 300,000 public officials. The register, created in 2016, is regarded by anti-corruption groups and the IMF as an essential safeguard against illicitly acquired wealth. It was suspended last year on security grounds after Russia’s full-scale invasion. Civil society groups demanded parliament reinstate mandatory declarations, with exceptions for serving military. MPs acquiesced earlier this month but voted to keep the register secret for another year, triggering a storm of criticism. A petition demanding an open register gained tens of thousands of signatures within a few hours. “From my perspective, one year is not a long period of time,” Stefanishyna said. “But to leave no room for speculation, and no room for undermining our commitment . . . the decision might be taken to make it open.” She said it was President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s call on whether to veto the closed registration law and send it back to MPs.
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Sep 12, 2023 08:34
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Pretty "funny" that the language laws were a major cause of the war in 2014, and now they're going to give them up for "talks" on entering the EU, only to never be allowed in the EU anyway.
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Sep 12, 2023 08:45
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thats weird, all the smartest posters have assured me that ukraine is a model democracy that absolutely respects minority rights so why would they have to make any changes in the first place?
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Sep 12, 2023 08:53
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Organ Fiend posted:gently caress Poland tryin to haha
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Sep 12, 2023 09:07
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It's still extremely funny to me that a big part of why Napoleon began the disastrous 1812 campaign in Russia was due to the Duchy of Warsaw getting increasingly irate over the Russian Empire having half of Poland. The Treaty of Tilsit could have endured, and Tsar Alexander and Napoleon famously liked each other a great deal, but Polish revanchism claimed another European peace. 
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Sep 12, 2023 09:37
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Endman posted:It's still extremely funny to me that a big part of why Napoleon began the disastrous 1812 campaign in Russia was due to the Duchy of Warsaw getting increasingly irate over the Russian Empire having half of Poland. The Treaty of Tilsit could have endured, and Tsar Alexander and Napoleon famously liked each other a great deal, but Polish revanchism claimed another European peace. Just imagine what could have been.
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Sep 12, 2023 09:40
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If the Poles hadn't defeated the Red Army then the revolution could've spread to Germany and we'd all be communists.
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Sep 12, 2023 09:42
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Bad news for Zelensky - The USA is mobilizing its NGO network to generate dissent against Zelenskyy in preparation for replacing him with someone more pliable towards the US Olena Halushka: Draft law on asset declarations threatens integrity of Ukraine’s democracy by Olena Halushka September 12, 2023 9:51 AM 3 min read Olena Halushka is a board member at the Anticorruption Action Centre (AntAC), a Ukrainian NGO, founded in 2012, that aims to oppose corruption in Ukraine. Halushka is also the co-founder of the International Center for Ukrainian Victory (ICUV). In early September, President Volodymyr Zelensky called on Ukraine’s parliament to adopt a draft law critical to Ukraine’s integration into the European Union and targeting corruption. Draft law No. 9534 seeks to restore the electronic asset declarations system for public officials, suspended at the start of Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022. While lawmakers voted for the law in the second reading, their amendments provide significant loopholes that threaten Ukraine’s adherence to the European Commission’s reform recommendations. Despite the support of 91.7% of Ukrainians and the calls of European Parliament members and G7 Ambassadors for the restoration of the e-declarations system, the parliament voted to hide the registry for yet another year – “generously” granting officials the ability to publish their declarations on a voluntary basis. There are no real grounds to justify the parliament’s decision, as well as no guarantees that lawmakers will not further prolong it next September. The European Parliamentarians issued a statement asking Zelensky not to pass the draft law as it stands due to concerns it will undermine trust in reforms. Meanwhile, a petition asking Zelensky to veto the law and propose the parliament to open the e-declarations, has reached over 83,000 signatures. The draft law as it stands also ties the hands of both civil society and investigative journalists, whose role as watchdogs is critical during wartime and in light of recent corruption scandals. Other harmful provisions were also inserted at the last minute. For instance, due to alleged security concerns, officials are permitted to withhold the address of one property abroad where their family resides. Lawmakers’ apartments, which are covered by the state, also do not need to be declared if they are smaller than 75 square meters. Law enforcement will also not be allowed to verify the origins of an asset if it was acquired prior to election day or appointment, undermining investigations into illicit enrichment. Declared assets that have been checked are also exempt from subsequent checks, even if new evidence arises. Lawmakers distorted the system of electronic declarations in other ways, too. The parliament simultaneously adopted another draft law – No. 9587 – which includes a detrimental amendment put forward by Hryhorii Mamka, a former member of the now-banned pro-Russian political party, Opposition Platform for Life. The amendment stipulates that lying about asset declarations worth less than Hr 1.3 million ($35,182) only warrants a fine of Hr 17,000 ($460) and will not lead to other consequences like prohibition to be appointed to public office for a certain period. This amendment hinders Ukraine’s commitments to the International Monetary Fund, and further weakens oversight of officials’ declarations. The only way out of this legislative mess is for Zelensky to veto the second law, No. 9587, fully, and to return the first, No. 9534, to parliament, demanding that electronic asset declarations be made available to the public and other harmful provisions be fixed. This would be the only acceptable course of action, and it will honor a zero tolerance for grand corruption in Ukraine, which has been paying with the blood of its citizens for the right to exist as a democratically resilient country.
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Sep 12, 2023 09:58
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DancingShade posted:desktop commanders. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn1_9YvGds
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Sep 12, 2023 10:02
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fizzy posted:Bad news for Zelensky - The USA is mobilizing its NGO network to generate dissent against Zelenskyy in preparation for replacing him with someone more pliable towards the US Bad news for Zelenskyy - The US is so confident that it will get its way that it can't even be bothered to put up the thinnest veneer of impartiality over its NGO network. https://antac.org.ua/en/about-us/   fizzy has issued a correction as of 10:13 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Sep 12, 2023 10:03
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Ardennes posted:It may be better for quite a few Ukrainian citizens that are Russian speaking, it really depends. It wasn't a war that needs to be fought and there was at least briefly an offramp but it is clear one way or another this is going to be a fight to the finish. yeah the goal of Z was to be Big Israel. we both know what groups were going to be the Palestinians in that scenario
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Sep 12, 2023 10:07
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Bad news for Zelenskyy - By caving to US-controlled NGOs' nominal demand to veto the loophole-ridden anti-corruption bill, Zelenskyy has no doubt created enemies among the interested parties that wanted the loophole in the first place. How will Zelenskyy thread this needle? https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-vetoes-restrictions-on-electronic-declaration-of-assets/ Zelensky vetoes controversial bill on online asset declarations The Kyiv Independent news desk September 12, 2023 10:44 AM 2 min read President Volodymyr Zelensky vetoed the bill by the Verkhovna Rada, Ukraine's Parliament, that would prolong restrictions on electronic asset declarations for public officials, the president announced on Sept. 12. "Declarations must be open. At once. Not in a year. The registry should be opened now," Zelensky said on his Telegram channel. The Verkhovna Rada, Ukraine's parliament, passed a bill on Sept. 5 to restore the requirement for top officials to declare their assets, an anti-corruption measure central to talks on Ukraine's accession to the European Union. However, the Rada made a number of amendments, one of which meant that there would be no public access to officials' asset declarations for one more year, and only law enforcement agencies would be able to check them. The system of compulsory asset declarations was originally instituted as part of the country's fight against corruption following the 2014 EuroMaidan Revolution. All declarations were open to the public, a level of transparency especially important for journalists and civil society. At the start of the full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, the requirement for submitting e-declarations was suspended and public access to the declarations was shut down. Officials have still been able to submit them on a voluntary basis. Members of the European Parliament appealed to Zelensky to veto the bill, fearing it would undermine trust in reforms. A petition launched on Sept. 6 asked the president to demand the Rada to change the law so that asset declarations are publicly accessible.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:09
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Bad news for Poland-Ukraine relations - The Polish government plans to appeal to the European Commission today on Sept. 12 to extend the import ban on Ukrainian grain products in five EU countries Polish official: Poland to ask EU to extend Ukrainian grain ban by Martin Fornusek September 12, 2023 10:19 AM 2 min read The Polish government plans to appeal to the European Commission today on Sept. 12 to extend the import ban on Ukrainian grain products in five EU countries, the government's spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News. Müller added that Warsaw will introduce restrictions on the national level if the Commission does not agree to prolong the measure. Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria requested the European Commission to ban the domestic sale of certain Ukrainian grain products in these countries. The measure was instituted in May and is currently set to expire on Sep. 15. The five countries were reacting to the pressure from their farmers, who feared that cheaper Ukrainian imports would threaten domestic production. The influx of grain from Ukraine also created logistical bottlenecks. Ukraine, one of the world's leading grain producers, is seeking alternative export routes after Russia's unilateral withdrawal from the Black Sea Grain Initiative on July 17. Kyiv appealed to the EU not to prolong the ban, saying it would be "unacceptable" to continue the restriction past Sept. 15. However, all five countries said they would appeal to the Commission for an extension. This measure did not restrict the transit of Ukrainian produce through the territories of the said states. Romania, Poland, and Bulgaria even introduced or discussed measures to expand their transit capacity of Ukrainian grain.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:12
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fizzy posted:Bad news for Zelenskyy - The US is so confident that it will get its way that it can't even be bothered to put up the thinnest veneer of impartiality over its NGO network. (laughing out loud - I did by the way) Oh that's precious.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:19
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fizzy posted:Bad news for people who like even numbers - Ukraine and the U.S. appear at odds alright this title made me lol
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Sep 12, 2023 10:21
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Good news for Ukraine - The majority of citizens in the EU favour measures in support of Ukraine against Russian aggression https://kyivindependent.com/poll-majority-of-europeans-favor-supporting-ukraine/ Poll: Majority of EU citizens favor continued support for Ukraine by Martin Fornusek September 12, 2023 9:33 AM 2 min read The majority of EU citizens favor measures in support of Ukraine against Russian aggression, including humanitarian, economic, and military means, based on a survey by Eurobarometer published by the European Commission on Sept. 11. According to the poll, 86% of Europeans approve of the continued EU humanitarian aid to the people affected by the war. Some 77% accept welcoming refugees, 71% support sanctions, while 67% and 65% believe the EU should support Ukraine on its path toward European integration and the single market, respectively. Finally, 65% of respondents favor economic and financial support for Ukraine, and 57% think that the EU should support the purchase and supply of military equipment and training to Ukraine. Some 86% of Europeans also believe that the EU should tackle the impact of rising energy prices, while 80% think that Europe ought to reduce excessive dependencies on countries like Russia or China. A large majority of respondents said that because of Russia's war against Ukraine, the EU member states should ensure their energy and economic security (85%), strengthen military cooperation within the bloc (75%), and continue to show solidarity with Ukraine (71%). Since the start of the full-scale invasion, many EU countries have backed Ukraine both on the national and European levels. The proposed or ongoing initiatives include macro-financial support, humanitarian assistance, and the purchase of military materiel.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:26
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Thank goodness. I'm very relieved the official EU government survey group says latest survey approves of EU government actions. I was starting to get worried but now I'm very relieved and quite reassured of the current course.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:36
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BULBASAUR posted:My personal take is that it will be more like the DMZ in Korea. Now that the decoupling has happened, and so much bad blood is in the water between players, I don't see any peace really going down, especially since Ukraine has nothing to bargain with, and the west played its rotten hand for everyone to see. The bad blood is of course not between the people, but more geopolitically. Still, without change in leadership Russia will continue integrating with China and give a frigid shoulder to America and her colonies. I don't really see a restoration of relations in my lifetime between anyone involved... generations of hate and a new global landscape. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I don't see it. thanks for your perspective. if you’re cool commenting from your experience, is the draft something that is explained to your family? or it it something more abstract, ie: just some geopolitical thing?
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Sep 12, 2023 10:39
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Ytlaya posted:When you think about it, the early 20th century European antisemitism was good, since that's the reason my mom's family from Latvia came to the US sometime in the 10s. In a sense, I am the product of antisemitism. You shoud be grateful for European antisemitism for the same reason African Americans should be grateful for chattel slavery and the transatlantic slave trade. You know, when you *really* think about it. And are also a colossal moron. Slavvy posted:Yeah we legitimized nazis all over the world, reinforced a kleptocracy, created a global rift for generations to come, and possibly initiated world war three, but for one shining moment, we drat well created some shareholder value Hey we live in an economic system whose only goal is maximizing shareholder value, so you know, system is what it does, mission accomplished and heckuva job. Orange Devil has issued a correction as of 11:24 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Sep 12, 2023 11:16
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gripens for ukraine confirmed  
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Sep 12, 2023 11:52
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Cerebral Bore posted:thats weird, all the smartest posters have assured me that ukraine is a model democracy that absolutely respects minority rights so why would they have to make any changes in the first place? they're getting even more respect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lsdJDiJ0QE
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Sep 12, 2023 11:56
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 b-b-but putler is supposed to be a t-t-tankie!!!
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Sep 12, 2023 11:59
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Comrade Koba posted:gripens for ukraine confirmed they are a lot more useful for ukraine than f16s
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Comrade Koba posted:gripens for ukraine confirmed uh… and I’m guessing you’re going to be replacing them with F35 for
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Sep 12, 2023 12:04
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Sep 12, 2023 12:11
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Comrade Koba posted:gripens for ukraine confirmed *Sent* Bayraktar TB3 Stinger NLAW Javelin CAESAR Switchblade Phoenix Ghost PzH2000 Krab HIMARS M777 M777 (Excalibur) HARM Leopard 1 Leopard 2 Challenger 2 Bradley AMX-10 RC NASAMS ARCHER Patriot Storm Shadow Cluster Munitions *Upcoming* F-16s ATACMs M1 Abrams Gripen Vampire If I forgot anything, tell me and I'll add it.
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3 posted:b-b-but putler is supposed to be a t-t-tankie!!! tankies officially worse than pootpoot
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