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notaspy posted:I think we should start a list of things that will cause massive derails: 4) warhams Edit 1931 Chinese Soviet Republic proclaimed by Mao Zedong keep punching joe fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Gorn Myson posted:The problem with dog chat is that cat owners feel the need to join the conversation due to their jealousy that they picked an animal inferior to a dog. I think the problem are comments like this and people like you.
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Sep 12, 2023 08:50
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keep punching joe posted:4) warhams
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Sep 12, 2023 08:56
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NotJustANumber99 posted:look I'm scared of them and my feelings are more important than yours so please respect them and by please i mean gently caress you All I can say to that is no traveller ever stuck their cold wet nose against the back of my knee and made me shriek like a loon in the queue at PetsAtHome.
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Sep 12, 2023 08:59
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Sep 12, 2023 08:59
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Bobby Deluxe posted:No it loving isn't, and don't weaponise neurodiversity/typicality that that. From earlier in this thread. Jakabite posted:What’s your alternative suggestion? I’m sorry if my extremely tame, literally never nipped or growled at anyone in her life, 8 year old Labrador coming up to give you a sniff scares you, genuinely, but that’s life. Sometimes you’ll have to go through things you don’t love because society can’t be expected to adapt to every single fear people have. Julio Cruz posted:uh keep your dog on a lead? it’s not exactly a hard alternative to come up with Jakabite posted:Knew that was coming. No, sorry, my dog’s happiness at being able to run around in the park is more important to me than that, particularly if they’re going to act like a oval office about it like you do about almost everything. In short I let my dog do whatever the gently caress it wants and gently caress everyone else, and if you disagree I’ll call you a oval office.
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Sep 12, 2023 09:03
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Lord Ludikrous posted:From earlier in this thread. He didn't call him a oval office because of his opinions on dogs, he called him a oval office for being a oval office.
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Sep 12, 2023 09:08
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NotJustANumber99 posted:He didn't call him a oval office because of his opinions on dogs, he called him a oval office for being a oval office. Saying people should keep dogs on leads around strangers makes them worthy of being called a oval office? Really?
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Sep 12, 2023 09:11
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Bobby Deluxe posted:No it loving isn't, and don't weaponise neurodiversity/typicality that that. Are you saying that sensory sensitivity isn't real? Or that sudden unexpected loud noise and unwanted physical contact cannot trigger it? I'm not saying "all neurodiverse people hate dogs", I'm saying that selfish people don't consider the possibility that other people may not love being lunged at by your poorly controlled animal.
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Sep 12, 2023 09:16
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gor' blimey whole threads gone to the dogs it has sort it aaahhhht
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Sep 12, 2023 09:16
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Saying people should keep dogs on leads around strangers makes them worthy of being called a oval office? Really? No mate. That's what I just explained.
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Sep 12, 2023 09:18
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I have a story about the time I shouted at an old lady to control her dog. It's a good one.
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Sep 12, 2023 09:20
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Gorn Myson posted:The problem with dog chat is that cat owners feel the need to join the conversation due to their jealousy that they picked an animal inferior to a dog. it is an absolute rookie mistake
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Sep 12, 2023 09:22
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What’s happened to this threads glorious Pedigree? I thought we were all Chums?
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Sep 12, 2023 09:30
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smellmycheese posted:What’s happened to this threads glorious Pedigree? I thought we were all Chums? Now you see how easily that falls apart
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Spangly A posted:Moved on a bit but I went over the dangerous dogs act the other day for a vet thing and it's hilarious that Dog Phrenologist is a specialist position within the police. They are the only people authorised to say if a big mastiff is legally a big mastiff, based on how much it looks like another dog used to catch slaves in South America, that wasn't extant in the UK at the time of legislation. Of course because it was the Victorians knowing that they were the finest scientific brains in the world while having no clue what they were doing they managed to introduce a ton of horrific genetics that probably leave some classic breeds as evolutionary dead ends, but overall the obsession with civilization, discipline, and paperwork did seem to reduce animal cruelty and dog attacks, and it's only when we decided that there's no such thing as society and chucked all that out in the 80s to replace it with tabloid sensationalism and "lol just get one off gumtree they train themselves" that it goes back up again. Maybe we should try some of that again without obsessing over dog phrenology to the point a bunch can't breathe properly. 
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If the prospect of interacting with a dog is a problem for you, then maybe just don't go to places where you're likely to encounter them. Like, if you're gonna have a big freakout because a dog might run over and give your a sniff, then perhaps parks aren't for you
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Sep 12, 2023 09:38
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DreddyMatt posted:If the prospect of interacting with a dog is a problem for you, then maybe just don't go to places where you're likely to encounter them. Also if any dogs get walked on the pavement outside your house you should just never go outside.
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Sep 12, 2023 09:44
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Saying people should keep dogs on leads around strangers makes them worthy of being called a oval office? Really? Well that poster in particular wants dogs leashed at all times which is a bit more extreme than "don't let your dog go up to strangers unless they seem receptive " Mourning Due posted:Are you saying that sensory sensitivity isn't real? Or that sudden unexpected loud noise and unwanted physical contact cannot trigger it? Your wording was that dog owners think "gently caress neurodivergent people" which was the issue. If you said people not thinking about these issues is thoughtless (which I think is what you meant) I don't think people would have had the same reaction.
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Roller Coast Guard posted:Also if any dogs get walked on the pavement outside your house you should just never go outside. Goon status: achieved
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Sep 12, 2023 09:52
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I like doggies
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Gonzo McFee posted:I like doggies Burn the Heretic!
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Sep 12, 2023 10:00
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Mourning Due posted:Dogchat: This is an interesting comparison. I think it's a bit apt, with one sticking point. It makes sense why dog owners would have an attachment to their dogs. Dogs are living creatures, we can bond with them. We see they have personalities and forgive or ignore any flaws/mistakes on their part out of love. That's perfectly human. But what does it say about gun owners that they have a similar level of attachment to a tool designed to kill people?
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Sep 12, 2023 10:01
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The only thing that stops a bad guy with a dog is a good guy with a dog.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:08
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Also while the stats are debatable there's good positive associations with dog ownership in older people and cardio fitness and mental health, whereas people who hide in their basement bunker stockpiling ammunition don't seem to be big on walking or happy about anything.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:09
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I feel like the current media panic hasn't helped itself by naming the dogs XL Bullies. They sound like the villains of a 90s platformer.
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Sep 12, 2023 10:12
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Lord Ludikrous posted:From earlier in this thread. Congrats, you are also a oval office. I didn’t say a dog should be able to do whatever the gently caress it wants and jump up on people, did I? I said go over and give them a bit of a sniff. If a massive fear of dogs to the point you can’t tolerate one calmly approaching you was a common thing, then sure. But there are very few people who suffer with that, and I don’t think every dog in the country should no longer be allowed to run about enjoying themselves in a park with other dogs and people who enjoy their company because of that extreme minority. Like, I know a couple of people who are poo poo scared of cats but I notice none of the ‘leash all dogs at all times’ people have said a thing about the people who let their cats out and about. For the record I agree with microchipping and licenses and your dog having good recall and such, but no dog or owner or indeed situation is perfect and if it’s genuinely going to gently caress up your day if a dog comes and sniffs you in a park, I’d suggest the parks known for being dog walking spots (oi oi) might not be a great place to hang out, in the same way I don’t spend a great deal of time in central London at night because cops scare the poo poo out of me. And people can gently caress off making this into an ableist thing - plenty of ND people love dogs and plenty of NT people really don’t. A fear of dogs isn’t a mental illness.
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Why is the media so biased again my beloved dog breed, the Alabama Throatripper?
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It is absolutely clear that taxpayers up and down the country want to stop the wokeness, ban dangerous dogs and get back to naming them the "n" word like we did in the war
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Sep 12, 2023 10:21
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The Aberdeen Throatnipper?
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I feel like the current media panic hasn't helped itself by naming the dogs XL Bullies. They sound like the villains of a 90s platformer. I know the papers used to do that poo poo all the time, "pitbull means dog that bites children, this child got bit therefore dog was a pitbull" and then it turns out to be some random terrier or the dog phrenologist cop just puts down 'unknown breed'.
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Tesseraction posted:Why is the media so biased again my beloved dog breed, the Alabama Throatripper? Because it spits chewing tobacco everywhere
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Mourning Due posted:Are you saying that sensory sensitivity isn't real? Or that sudden unexpected loud noise and unwanted physical contact cannot trigger it? Were you raised in either of those countries? Do you have sensory sensitivity, or are you arguing on behalf of an imaginary person who does? Because I do have sensory sensitivities, so you're going to have to find some people filled with less straw. Dogs which are safe and do not attack people are a normal part of society. I will absolutely concede that dogs who are not safe should be muzzled and on leash. But does that mean Jakabite's good boy should have to be muzzled and leashed? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no. If someone is triggered (and I mean that in the legitimate psychological sense of entering fight-or-flight mode because of previous legit trauma) by a dog coming up to them, that person needs help in the same way they'd need help if they were triggered by cars, or shouting, or open spaces. Those are all normal things most people in society will be able to deal with. It would be bezerk to expect all owners of dogs to muzzle and leash their pets in case someone has ptsd from an attack, in the same way society would break down if we had to remove all cars from the roads because some people have been in crashes (arguably way, way more than have been attacked by dogs). This whole conversation is deranged, there's some powerful conflation of basic concepts being thrown around. My dog going up to someone and giving them a sniff is not the same as a cane corso leaping at you snarling. If someone has been attacked by a dog and has trauma, then I am genuinely sorry about that, and if anyone cannot tell if a dog coming toward them is friendly or not, I also feel sorry for them. But you cannot seriously be expecting every dog, even ones with no history of violence to be restricted just in case they happen to come across a tiny minority who wrongly thinks they might be dangerous?
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Guavanaut posted:Have they found out whether the most recent one even was an Excel Bully? Well I've never seen a powerpoint bully.
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I support leashing dog owners to their dogs, particularly around strangers. Some people shouldn't be allowed outside at all unless they're leashed to a cute dog
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Jakabite posted:Congrats, you are also a oval office. I didn’t say a dog should be able to do whatever the gently caress it wants and jump up on people, did I? I said go over and give them a bit of a sniff. If a massive fear of dogs to the point you can’t tolerate one calmly approaching you was a common thing, then sure. But there are very few people who suffer with that, and I don’t think every dog in the country should no longer be allowed to run about enjoying themselves in a park with other dogs and people who enjoy their company because of that extreme minority. A bit touchy aren’t you? Just admit it, as long as your pet is happy you don’t give a poo poo about anyone else. The point is I as a stranger don’t know if your pet is calmly approaching me to investigate or if it’s going to try and jump on me or take a bite out of me or whatever. So maybe for the safety of others and your own dog unless you’re in an actual dog park or something just keep it leashed?
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I support leashing dog owners to their dogs, particularly around strangers. Some people shouldn't be allowed outside at all unless they're leashed to a cute dog I agree for my own sake though Lexi would likely not thank me for this as she very much enjoys laying down and doing nothing after and sometimes during her walks. E: ^^^ Bobby put it far better than I ever could and I’d like to see you respond to their post. Also your username is extremely appropriate. Jakabite fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Sep 12, 2023 |
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Lord Ludikrous posted:A bit touchy aren’t you? Just admit it, as long as your pet is happy you don’t give a poo poo about anyone else. Why do you matter more than a dog? That's the fundamental question here. There's a tension between comfort for humans, and comfort for animals, which in many ways occupy a child-like place in social perception, and such have many humans defending them. Whose comfort is more important in outdoor spaces, yours or the dogs?
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Tesseraction posted:Well I've never seen a powerpoint bully. well at my family gatherings we don't have a pedantic tedious rear end in a top hat
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Tesseraction posted:Well I've never seen a powerpoint bully. 
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