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Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Heran Bago posted:

Insurance and workers comp would cover that.
Not if you get it on record that you want this to prevent accidents and they then on the same record decide to just not bother. That right there is some "gross negligence".

Sometimes the best you can do is booby trap the booby trap, so make sure the second one hurts as bad as the first.

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Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie
No need for the environment to be safe if the environment burned away

Simple maths

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

LOL Fortinet's DNS went down this morning. Figured it out quickly enough but unbelievably worst possible timing.

Heran Bago
Aug 18, 2006



Arquinsiel posted:

Not if you get it on record that you want this to prevent accidents and they then on the same record decide to just not bother. That right there is some "gross negligence".

Sometimes the best you can do is booby trap the booby trap, so make sure the second one hurts as bad as the first.

All on record. No risk to my job. All involved are sympathetic but the money simply isn't there for this large of an unplanned expense. If anyone brings it up in writing it may mean another 2-hour-long meeting where they not-so-subtly reveal who spoke up this time. I think the point of these meetings is punitive - they just piss off everyone who has better things to do and aren't afraid of the puffy batteries collection. Should be a discussion between the bosses.


I can just refuse to do it and someone else would have to, but there's no avoiding being near the box a few times daily. Also afaik there's nowhere else in the organization to hide them.



Great work environment otherwise! Appointment with a union rep tomorrow.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Which government agency covers workplace health and safety where you are, grass the employer up to them

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
I have an eerie feeling that I may soon be asked to RTO. This project I was hired on for is a hot mess with poor leadership and direction, so clearly the answer will be to get everyone back into the same room full-time.

The pay is too good to outright quit but I should probably touch up the resume. :yotj: before years' end.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
We had an in-person event yesterday, and I'm very sorry to report that after the formal meeting, a coworker and I were able to grab a conference room and work together quickly on something in a way that we'd never quite been able to remotely. In lieu of flowers, the family has asked for thoughts and prayers at this time.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!

FISHMANPET posted:

We had an in-person event yesterday, and I'm very sorry to report that after the formal meeting, a coworker and I were able to grab a conference room and work together quickly on something in a way that we'd never quite been able to remotely. In lieu of flowers, the family has asked for thoughts and prayers at this time.

A good team and/or an interesting project makes all the difference for me being in the office. My current job offers neither.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I would have no problem attending the office for a structured day of kick-off meetings with agendas to accompany them, I'm not going in to have two Teams meetings and then work alone.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
It's actually quite funny how it happened. We were there because we had an in person "ceremony" for lack of a better term, using my Das Deployer. Then the two of us ended up in the same zoom meeting with some other actually remote people, and then at the end I was like "Hey, where are you, I'll come to you and we can hammer this out quickly" and we did.

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie
My job offers me endless hassling to show up more at the office and constant remarks from people that wish I showed up more often. Don't hate the job though, do wish those people chilled on that.

Maybe if I wasnt barraged endlessly with Teams notification noises and people sniffing my food I'd show up more often! Showing up does help get some things done much faster though, so I'll agree with that, but I do try to be selective about when I come in regardless.

(I have a vendetta against what I call "food sniffers" that I will not bore anyone with because I would go on for pages)

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob

Reoxygenation posted:

(I have a vendetta against what I call "food sniffers" that I will not bore anyone with because I would go on for pages)

No, now I want to know what that means.

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie
You asked.....

I essentially call food sniffers those maniacs that go around sniffing meals, or over reacting whenever you bring something like fish in the office. They'll essentially lose their poo poo and go on a rampage about how your meal is stinking up the place and how fish or whatever dish or ingredient you (or some other poor sap) brought in that displeases them. They will not shut the gently caress up about it, and they will make your lunch time a whole rear end loving pain because heavens forbid you brought in something that is an actual meal and not some garbage like a sandwich with 2 slices of meat in it.

They'll also go on to great lengths to hassle you if you bring in any god drat meal you picked up from a restaurant. Got something hot from the local deli? They will be sniffing around the office going "HMM WHO BROUGHT IN X DISH??" as loudly as possible until the find the culprit and bother them for like 5-10 minutes talking about whatever they picked up for lunch. I classify them as such :

- The proud sniffer
- The drive-by
- The casual snark

The proud sniffers will be so loving proud they sniffed out whatever you're eating. They'll be terribly proud of the fact that not only they found out that you were eating something, they're proud that they called out *exactly* what you're eating. The drive-bys love to just make remarks on what you're eating and try to chat you up while you're trying to god drat eat. The last category are the annoying fucks that will not shut up whenever you bring in something that even moderately smells or has any amount of spice in it. All 3 kinds will chase you down, no matter where you are in the office because god drat you are eating and they sniffed you out.

I have so much more to say but I think that covers the gist of it. Never had a company I worked at where I didn't have at least one of the above.

i hate office settings

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Heran Bago posted:

All on record. No risk to my job. All involved are sympathetic but the money simply isn't there for this large of an unplanned expense. If anyone brings it up in writing it may mean another 2-hour-long meeting where they not-so-subtly reveal who spoke up this time. I think the point of these meetings is punitive - they just piss off everyone who has better things to do and aren't afraid of the puffy batteries collection. Should be a discussion between the bosses.


I can just refuse to do it and someone else would have to, but there's no avoiding being near the box a few times daily. Also afaik there's nowhere else in the organization to hide them.



Great work environment otherwise! Appointment with a union rep tomorrow.
Have you considered throwing screwdrivers at the box for funzies?

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Thanks Ants posted:

Having Azure Active Directory, Active Directory, Azure Active Directory Domain Services all being three very different platforms was daft, but the mistake was calling it Azure AD in the first place instead of something like Azure IAM or whatever. Renaming it after a decade and hundreds of thousands of pieces of documentation is stupid.

Azure Identity Management.

Done. Microsoft, I'll take my $1,500,000 in focus research fees. In 2008 dollars, thank you very much.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Azure Warden Service (AWS)

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

devmd01 posted:

Shut pissing me off: Valimail dmarc monitor free. Set it up a couple of years ago just for the nice graphs, we never really used it.

They are making some changes that I don’t really care about, but a “product specialist” conveniently reached out about some “anomalies with our graphs” aka a blatant attempt to make a sales pitch. I ignored all three emails, then the rear end in a top hat messaged me on LinkedIn too.

gently caress you, no. Made my displeasure clear to him and immediately put in a ticket to have our account deleted.

I just told them "Monitor is more than adequate for us and we have zero budget for dmarc accessories" and the call ended in five minutes.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Has anybody gone through the process of getting a BIMI certificate? It seems a bit snake oily like EV certs a few years ago, a thing that mainly exists to make certificate vendors money.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Reoxygenation posted:

You asked.....

I essentially call food sniffers those maniacs that go around sniffing meals, or over reacting whenever you bring something like fish in the office.

To be fair, anyone bringing fish to the office should get the guillotine. It's not an overreaction when it stinks up an entire floor for days on end.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Thanks Ants posted:

Has anybody gone through the process of getting a BIMI certificate? It seems a bit snake oily like EV certs a few years ago, a thing that mainly exists to make certificate vendors money.

We assessed getting one but stopped once we saw the cert prices.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Costs of BIMI should come from the marketing budget.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

vanity slug posted:

Costs of BIMI should come from the marketing budget.

The BIMI cert was more expensive than our whole 365 tenant license fees. Hopefully for Thanks Ants, prices got lower in the mean time.

Raymond T. Racing
Jun 11, 2019

Heran Bago posted:

Least favorite thing is handling swollen laptop batteries every few days. Pulling them out of old bloated laptops mostly. Collect them in a cardboard box that goes on a wooden shelf in a room that we are always passing through. Moreso than the fire risk, I'm afraid of the potential fumes. This has been the case all year.

I have a vague idea that this is somehow not good. Workplace Safety has a million reasons why we can't do anything about it. If anyone brings it up in writing, we have a department-wide hours-long meeting about why we can't do anything about it.

I would be okay handling these hazardous materials with a minimum of training and equipment (maybe gloves?) but I don't know what kind of training or equipment I would need.

If you can’t afford the proper box, at least get a metal garbage can with a lid or so the batteries aren’t in kindling (cardboard) on firewood shelves

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

SlowBloke posted:

The BIMI cert was more expensive than our whole 365 tenant license fees. Hopefully for Thanks Ants, prices got lower in the mean time.

I think the 'standard' price is still $1500ish per year. Completely hosed, but just an average night out for the average marketing employee.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

Potato Salad posted:

Azure Identity Management.

Done. Microsoft, I'll take my $1,500,000 in focus research fees. In 2008 dollars, thank you very much.

Congratulations making half the world now mix up and mispronounce AIM and IAM since both are somewhat related, and the other half wanting to shove a spike through their heads because of the people who can never get it right.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

evobatman posted:

Congratulations making half the world now mix up and mispronounce AIM and IAM since both are somewhat related, and the other half wanting to shove a spike through their heads because of the people who can never get it right.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.
Boss I can't log in, AOL Instant Messenger is down

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


Would you care to guess what Palo’s XSIAM product addresses?

Ratmtattat
Mar 10, 2004
the hairdryer

rafikki posted:

Would you care to guess what Palo’s XSIAM product addresses?

eXtra Small Integers And Multiples

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

rafikki posted:

Would you care to guess what Palo’s XSIAM product addresses?

Xenophobic Sisterhood Ignoring Alpha Males

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!

rafikki posted:

Would you care to guess what Palo’s XSIAM product addresses?

Xenomorph? Space? It's A Movie!

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Azure Web Selfhood (AWS)

See, much clearer

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Super-NintendoUser posted:

3) hiring a moving company of possibly illegals with straight cash

Hey, I know this was forever ago, but let's not refer to people as "illegals."

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I wrote an ADO task extension and am now having to navigate my orgs bureaucracy in order to get it published.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

Internet Explorer posted:

Hey, I know this was forever ago, but let's not refer to people as "illegals."

edited post, np.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
I’m now in the third round of ping pong with IT over a simple account creation.

We used to have a bot that created accounts but none of the bots work now that they’ve moved all the factory control systems to a new domain.

So now, if you need an account, you put in a help desk ticket.

Dear help desk, employee X (uid, email) has moved to being a forklift driver and needs a *scangun software* account.

quote:

please share the name of employee x's computer

Employee X does not have an assigned computer, he works on a forklift.

quote:

please install *scangun software* from allowed programs list on employee's pc

Employee X does not have a pc. Employee X has a scan gun with the *scangun software* already installed. He needs an account created so he can log into it.

quote:

employee cannot use *scangun software* without installing it to his pc. Ticket closed

Blarggh

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Escalate to your manager, tell them to knock someone else's head on this

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

tactlessbastard posted:

I’m now in the third round of ping pong with IT over a simple account creation.

We used to have a bot that created accounts but none of the bots work now that they’ve moved all the factory control systems to a new domain.

So now, if you need an account, you put in a help desk ticket.

You're doing this wrong.

Make tickets for the broken bots, escalate them with management and then let the tire fire start as people can't do their jobs.

sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007
DHCP.

I have seen people manage static IPs by setting a static IP on the device that is outside of the DHCP pool.

I have seen people manage static IPs by setting up a DHCP reservation on the server. (that's my preference.)

I have even seen people let the device DHCP and then convert the lease into a reservation, as if the random hand of DHCP leases were in fact Allocatus, God of Permanent Positioning.

Before last week, I had never seen someone do the following:
Connect device to the network
Note what IP it gets from DHCP
Set that IP, on the device, as a static IP
Walk away, saying it works, stop making up problems.

And they make at least twice what I do. :suicide:

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Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Wow. I didn't know 20 year old me was so successful! Good for him.

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