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smoobles posted:for every sulfite you add to the atmosphere, I'll add three methanes *siberian permafrost has entered the chat*
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redleader posted:how long til we start firing sulfates into the atmosphere now NOW!! DIM! THAT! SUN!!!
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The lack of dimming at this point demonstrates how intentional warming is
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Honky Mao posted:The lack of dimming at this point demonstrates how intentional warming is Not really intentional because c'mon who's gonna be the first one to lose their money? Once someone starts to spend money on cooling, everyone is just gonna not do it because hey, someone's doing something I don't have to do anything now
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Red Baron posted:*siberian permafrost has entered the chat* * Greenlands glaciers have joined Siberia’s party. *
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Can't we just shove a few hundred nukes in yellowstone and let nature do the planetary cooling for us?
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dr_rat posted:Can't we just shove a few hundred nukes in yellowstone and let nature do the planetary cooling for us? That would destroy all of the nations in North America and certainly kill me so yes I am for it please let's get started on this right now.
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NeonPunk posted:Not really intentional because c'mon who's gonna be the first one to lose their money? Once someone starts to spend money on cooling, everyone is just gonna not do it because hey, someone's doing something I don't have to do anything now Mr. Burns was able to turn it into profit!
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It's like you wanna speed run the final episode of Dinosaurs
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everyone get on the side of the planet nearest the sun and jump up and down on 3
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NeonPunk posted:Not really intentional because c'mon who's gonna be the first one to lose their money? Once someone starts to spend money on cooling, everyone is just gonna not do it because hey, someone's doing something I don't have to do anything now It's gonna be China. China is going to save us all.
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Seven Force posted:It's like you wanna speed run the final episode of Dinosaurs there was an episode where once an elder turned a specific age, like 75 or so, they ceremoniously got tossed off a cliff. I think they had some good ideas that were ahead of their time
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Thats the plot of midsommar
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seriouspost: If some shitcorp figures out how to profit [through government subsidies and grants] off blasting sulfur or other junk into the atmosphere to slow cooling from the sun, and then actually starts doing it, is it going to impact photovoltaic electric production? Because a lot of other shitcorps are getting rich by funneling money into their pockets through various PV scams right now and they aren't going to like someone cutting into their production [of cash]. I also have a vested interest in that my electricity is generated by PV
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you could figure that out by looking at the absorption spectra of these sulfates in the atmosphere and then compare that with which wavelengths the PVs use. i'm not gonna do that but i don't think they're necessarily the wavelengths that sulfates efficiently block to reduce heating. then figure out a plausible concentration we could get to and math out the amount of decreased PV efficiency
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Hooplah posted:you could figure that out by looking at the absorption spectra of these sulfates in the atmosphere and then compare that with which wavelengths the PVs use. i'm not gonna do that but i don't think they're necessarily the wavelengths that sulfates efficiently block to reduce heating. then figure out a plausible concentration we could get to and math out the amount of decreased PV efficiency  Thanks! That's a lot of sciencing I'm not gonna do either but it makes sense.
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i lied, i'm curious now. unfortunately it looks like newer PVs are pushing further into IR regarding their peak efficiency... which is the range these aerosols *reflect* (not absorb, i misspoke) most efficiently. my guess is they would be at odds with one another unless i'm misinterpreting the spectra i'm seeing
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 Unfortunately most PV panels work in near IR, just after the valley, so it's not perfect, but relatively ok. I expect that the plans for cloud formation would be over bodies of water anyway, as the acid rain formed from the sulfates would be bad for plant life (and maybe ocean life too I guess but that's no man's land so not a problem). Leandros has issued a correction as of 17:24 on Sep 13, 2023 |
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redleader posted:how long til we start firing sulfates into the atmosphere now kinda already happening https://www.technologyreview.com/20...ak-the-climate/
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good, make Weather Machines Real Now
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so do these sulfates not actually reflect IR on their own? I thought that was how they worked. also i don't think you want absorption, as that means the EM energy was taken up by the atmosphere, heating it up. i know clouds contribute to albedo via reflection/scattering, but i don't think that graph shows that.
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:good, make Weather Machines Real Now Already real my friend:  Look at that beautiful cloud!
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Pingui posted:Already real my friend: drat those could have been fueling crypto farms what a waste
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just replace those tires with EV tires
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Hooplah posted:so do these sulfates not actually reflect IR on their own? I thought that was how they worked. also i don't think you want absorption, as that means the EM energy was taken up by the atmosphere, heating it up. i know clouds contribute to albedo via reflection/scattering, but i don't think that graph shows that. I had a cascade brainshart, mixing up reflection and emission (which is the same as absorption), as well as aerosol injection and cloud seeding (I thought they were the same concept using different seeding materials). I stand by the assumption that both would be done predominantly over the oceans though, so the PV performance should not be too much worse off.
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The remnants of Hurricane Harvey in 2017 hosed up my Appalachian Trail summit day and made it a cold and miserable wet mess with zero visibility. Lee is going to absolutely gently caress up the end of a lot of people's hikes and I say to that, lol
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That's kinda really underselling just how huge Lee is. Boston could still get pummeled with loads of wind and water as it goes past
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yeah but it's Boston
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I’m pretty sure that Boston needs a good powerwashing
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Well, guess I'm not picking up my medication on Saturday!
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boston lee party
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triple sulk posted:boston lee party
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triple sulk posted:boston lee party
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Lee. n. the side or area that is sheltered from the wind.
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ikanreed posted:Lee. n. the side or area that is sheltered from the wind. Saturday's weather report: Hurricane, with a coincidental irony warning
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triple sulk posted:boston lee party
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