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Marenghi posted:I've no idea what life in pieces is in. But the bar shot did remind me of the set from How I Met Your Mother and I guess that's why. The show was behind the times when it was still on the air, but you're not wrong. The great societal awakening happened during the run of that show. Not a single season of that show goes by that there isn't a joke that's just "lol that chick's a dude." No craft. No punchline. Just "trans people exist. Isn't that gross and hilarious?"
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Given the producers' treatment of Roz I might not have gotten my hopes up. Sitcoms of that era were pretty bad about actually developing women, from what I recall. Honestly Roz feels like an extremely modern woman on rewatch. Much less of a caricature than the other women on the show.
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Wendigee posted:Ugh. Bulldog. He’s funny
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MarcusSA posted:He’s funny If he was less pathetic he'd be less funny
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:If he was less pathetic he'd be less funny That is the whole joke. Well, that and he's a walking example of what not to do with the point being he does those things because he's a horrible person. If anything almost ahead of its time given say, the whole deal with Barney in How I Met Your Mother a decade later. I'm reminded of when Johnny Bravo was first pitched to Cartoon Network, apparently the men were unsure about how it'd go over with women, but the women were all for it. The whole point after all is that his behaviour is inappropriate and counterproductive.
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PittTheElder posted:Honestly Roz feels like an extremely modern woman on rewatch. Much less of a caricature than the other women on the show. 
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Wendigee posted:Ugh. Bulldog. This stinks. This is total BS.
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The downturn of the show is correlated with Daphne getting more normal. The original weird psychic with very dark issues regarding her mother was perfect. Her stories about her family were another bright spot of her characterization, just off screen. The kind of characters who would never be as funny in person, like Maris.
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TheWorldsaStage posted:The downturn of the show is correlated with Daphne getting more normal. The original weird psychic with very dark issues regarding her mother. Her stories about her family were another bright spot of her characterization, just off screen. The kind of characters who would never be as funny in person, like Maris. There'll be nooooo naps in Hell
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Yeah, after she gets with Niles, Daphne just kind of absorbs all the plots and character traits typically assigned to White Sitcom Girlfriend. She stands next to Niles and makes sarcastic quips and gets jealous sometimes.
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They basically had to demolish Daphne and Niles and rebuild them to make the two of them together even remotely plausible, great way to ruin a show
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Guys I am freaking out about the dynamics of Frasier. Why did they make such a problematic show??
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Wendigee posted:Ugh. Bulldog. Bulldog FUCKS.
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BigBadSteve posted:Bulldog FUCKS. But never makes a meaningful connection
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Cosmik Slop posted:They basically had to demolish Daphne and Niles and rebuild them to make the two of them together even remotely plausible, great way to ruin a show Pretty standard sitcom romance blunder, Moonlighting is the OG I think. Maybe it'd work better if they focused on the class angle?
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You think DHP and Bulldog's Real Name ever hooked up? Considering there have only been 2 or maybe 3 funny shows that came after it, I think you could ease up a little on the later seasons.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Pretty standard sitcom romance blunder, Moonlighting is the OG I think. I want to say focus on their differences in an endearing way while avoiding everything that made Dharma & Greg
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I'll spoiler it I guess but some fundamental info about the reboot: Its set in Boston, thats already been said. Freddie apparently has taken more after his grandfather, and Frasier has moved back to Boston after Martin's death to try and reconnect with his son, which is a prospect Freddie isn't all that interested in. Niles and Daphne's son has also followed Frasier to Boston. There is a character who is a friend of Frasier who teaches at Harvard, as well as another who is head of said school's psych department and is trying to convince Frasier to teach there. There is a regular bar that is featured, called Mahoney's, which is a nice touch. Still think it would be naive to get hopes up but I'm a little warmer to the idea after reading that bit of info.
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The first proper trailer has been released: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz--6tGukuw I'm reserving judgement - the pacing of the jokes doesn't seem like classic Frasier, but that could just be the need to fit them into a 90 second trailer.
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codo27 posted:I'll spoiler it I guess but some fundamental info about the reboot: Freddie is a cop who lives in a run-down house. The show opens with Frasier moving in and setting up his fancy Louis XIV armchair in the middle of the living room... Okay, no, but that's what I'd do.
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List of Characters from Frasier people would like to see in a spinoff: 1) Niles 2) Roz 3) Martin ... 78) Bulldog 79) Freddy 80) Daphne
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GolfHole posted:List of Characters from Frasier people would like to see in a spinoff: 0) Eddie -1) Lilith
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- A Lot Lower Than That: Any member of Daphne's family. - Even Lower: Frasier's Greek Relatives.
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Seriously forget Frasier and give me Clavin
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A Roz show would have been just lovely
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Roz spin off with Cam Winston.
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ynohtna posted:Roz spin off with Cam Winston. She's a producer for his TV talk show, "Smile for the Cam."
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Ok, they did a good job with the trailer. It looks about as good as I could expect. It seems possible that it'll be season 11 quality which would be worth watching once, at least. His college friend or whoever does seem like a pretty transparent stand-in for Martin, but I guess that just means they recognize the need for a character like that, and obviously they can't get the real thing... Sir Lemming fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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GolfHole posted:List of Characters from Frasier people would like to see in a spinoff: Grassy Knowles posted:0) Eddie
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dont say her name. im still mad that marty and cam winston's mom didn't end up together
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i hope they offered it to the real freddy and he turned it down but i suspect not
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I agree the trailer looks about as good as you can make that show look given the direction they decided to take, but I'm still bowing out. Nothing about that made me want to give it a chance.
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I haven't learned my lesson from the new Indy, I'm going to watch it. I just hope it's not turn it off before the first episode is over bad.
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It's really funny how they leaned into Kelsey's alcoholism and just ran with it, they ran with it for like 10 miles lmao
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It just looks like they took the character and dumped him into a run of the mill sitcom with nothing else brought over from the original show. That said, I'll give it a go and will no doubt end up watching the whole thing.
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Looks like err, everybody loves ramond or young sheldon. bland. Whilst Frasier still might have it as a character you want to see, surrounding him by utter bores and shallow nothings will do nothing to make this watchable.
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It reminds me of when Boy Meets World went to college
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Khanstant posted:It reminds me of when Boy Meets World went to college As long as it doesn't become Saved By the Bell where they went to college.
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They should’ve mellowed Frasier into more of a Marty character and then have his son be the prissy snob. Like a circle 🙂
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