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Pope Hilarius II posted:Haven't played since MK9 but still follow new games with great interest, so I while I can't say much about the gameplay, here's a few stray observations I had: lol yeah he is barely phased by this for about a scene
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CapnAndy posted:I hate hate haaaaaate the stupid over-fiddly gear system they used for IJ2 and MK11 (and 10 too, maybe? I forget). Stop it. You are a fighting game. The outfits your characters wear are supposed to be iconic. Make some skins with actual artistic intent behind them that look cool, don't give me a bunch of random drops and leave me with characters that look like they rolled around in a Spirit Halloween while half-asleep and half drunk. I'm with you on this, the mk11 base costumes were very good but the gear system left me dry. I'd rather they put that effort into producing more cohesive alternate costumes I do hope that the alternate bad timeline edgelord skins for each character become available without too much fuss. I lmaoed when kenshi's bad guy skin was "cool shades" and i was woefully unprepared for how dumb things would get I just realized what a wasted opportunity it was for them to not have old rumors like hornbuckle and Nimbus terrafaux and weird obscure characters like Hydro not show up during the finale. I'm disappointed now pretty soft girl fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Sep 15, 2023 |
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So all of the arcade endings are supposed to be canon and all follow the events of story mode. Some of them feel like they should be watched before others. Here's a quick guide: Reptile -> Baraka -> Mileena Liu Kang -> Geras Havik -> Rain Johnny Cage -> Kenshi General Shao -> Kitana -> Reiko Scorpion -> Smoke -> Raiden
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pretty soft girl posted:I just realized what a wasted opportunity it was for them to not have old rumors like hornbuckle and Nimbus terrafaux and weird obscure characters like Hydro not show up during the finale. I'm disappointed now re: the finale, so many of those old characters are essentially fanfiction that I'd imagine using them would've presented some rights issues. Nimbus Terrafaux in particular is a gag from early EGM.
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So spoilers about the big final fight : all those alt characters just turned evil one day and decided “yes evil is hot evil is cool,evil it is for me”?
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Sep 15, 2023 18:07
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Ermac seemes half-finished because well, he is---he def was meant to be main roster or something but they couldn't finish him on time so now you get to pay for 2 characters DLC that def were meant to be base roster lol. Disappointed there are no Klassic options for Sub-Zero or Scorpion off the bat, can I get these guys some hooded/klassic mask option skins easy, goddamn. I do not want trendy young Scorpion with a dumb tattoo I was hellfire revenant Scorp!
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:So spoilers about the big final fight : all those alt characters just turned evil one day and decided “yes evil is hot evil is cool,evil it is for me”? They all saw sindel having a great time in aftermath and wanted the same
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:So spoilers about the big final fight : all those alt characters just turned evil one day and decided “yes evil is hot evil is cool,evil it is for me”? Also alt character good guys though. Mime Johnny, Lady Johnny. A bit unclear about where that came from, I guess offscreen Liu Kang and Shang Tsung both realized the multiverse was infinite so they could go get Day of the Dead versions of their buds to help out instead of just pulling from the timelines that were the arcade endings of the last game.
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DLC Inc posted:Ermac seemes half-finished because well, he is---he def was meant to be main roster or something but they couldn't finish him on time so now you get to pay for 2 characters DLC that def were meant to be base roster lol. Yeah I think Ermac has more story fights than Tanya or Havik, maybe some others too. No way he wasn’t spun off into DLC partway through development
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Sep 15, 2023 18:20
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It hits me that Omni-Man's big moment from Invincible is a lot different in Mortal Kombat's reality. "WHAT WILL YOU HAVE IN 500 YEARS?!?!" "...those guys?" "Oh. Right."
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PostNouveau posted:Also alt character good guys though. Mime Johnny, Lady Johnny. A bit unclear about where that came from, I guess offscreen Liu Kang and Shang Tsung both realized the multiverse was infinite so they could go get Day of the Dead versions of their buds to help out instead of just pulling from the timelines that were the arcade endings of the last game. It was so dumb (in a good way) they might as well have had all the baddies with evil goatees (including the women)
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So what was Outworld doing in the hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of years before human civilization developed on Earthrealm? Challenging dinosaurs and woolly mammoths to mortal kombat?
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Last act spoilers: Love how Liu Kang is like, “We’ve got to stop them from destroying the hourglass! Let me grimace slightly at the ones firing actual lasers at it and then pick a fight with someone milling about on the side.” Also I get that the main character should be the most badass, but just about every other keeper of time is an absolute chump in that chapter waiting for Liu Kang to save them.
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exquisite tea posted:So what was Outworld doing in the hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of years before human civilization developed on Earthrealm? Challenging dinosaurs and woolly mammoths to mortal kombat? MK Universe is young earth creationist. The realms are only 6,000 years old.
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I like to think Outworld had thousands of years of peaceful utopia until one day someone invented the uppercut and everything spun out of control.
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exquisite tea posted:So what was Outworld doing in the hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of years before human civilization developed on Earthrealm? Challenging dinosaurs and woolly mammoths to mortal kombat? Just non stop animalities for aeons.
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I'll give him this: I think Liu Kang does have a good solution for the problem of how to be the all-powerful creator god without becoming Kronika. The best endings from MK11 were the characters who saw it for what it was and rejected it. But also don't go talking about that poo poo all around town. Loose loving lips man. He reveals it to Sindel even though he doesn't need to, she is already willing to be on his side. Geras in front of like ... a dozen people is like "Oh yeah, I put the power to be the biggest god in the universe in this specific statue". Dude you are tempting fate letting people know about this poo poo. PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Sep 15, 2023 |
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Sep 15, 2023 18:39
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I know everybody wants to talk about the shiny new game, but can we just be honest for a moment? A lot of people are having a really hard time right now, and the world can be a scary place. But if you're feeling the same way, I want you to remember something important: If your life ever seems directionless, meaningless, or lacking purpose, it's probably because you were once a powerful sorcerer and some petty fire god cheated you to win. Death to all of them.
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exquisite tea posted:I know everybody wants to talk about the shiny new game, but can we just be honest for a moment? A lot of people are having a really hard time right now, and the world can be a scary place. But if you're feeling the same way, I want you to remember something important: If your life ever seems directionless, meaningless, or lacking purpose, it's probably because you were once a powerful sorcerer and some petty fire god cheated you to win. Death to all of them. I can't believe the Deadly Alliance was a good idea
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Imagine if shang tsung just brought back an army of T-1000’s and jason voorheeses. I suppose liu kang didn’t allow those guys in his new vision.
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Imagine if shang tsung just brought back an army of T-1000’s and jason voorheeses. Omni-Man too busy loving bug ladies in every possible timeline
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I bet there’s a timeline where Earthrealm’s chanpion was a guy from the Bronx named Louis Cagney — he is summoned by his doppelgänger Liu Kang and weeps
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Liu Kang watches TV shows based on comicbooks, not horror or action movies. That was a Kronika thing.
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PostNouveau posted:I'll give him this: I think Liu Kang does have a good solution for the problem of how to be the all-powerful creator god without becoming Kronika. The best endings from MK11 were the characters who saw it for what it was and rejected it. Yeah, the story realizes it's a problem to have the leader of the good guys be an overpowered god of fire who literally rewrote time in his image. It's really, REALLY hard for there to be any drama in a story when you know God is on your side unless it's in the distant, Eru-in-Lord-of-the-Rings sense. In this case, we can see the god who wrote the destiny of every realm - he's standing right there and is fully playable. We know that unless said god is totally incompetent the good guys win in a walk. Realizing this, they have him abandon the reset button for fairly sound reasons and have the villain be a threat that his crafting of time couldn't affect. The issue is that realizing it's a problem doesn't mean said problem is solvable. The fact that Liu Kang didn't gently caress up like a stupid rear end in a top hat means the stakes of the early chapters of the story are way too low. He made sure that none of the usual suspects have the power or initiative to pose a threat on their own. Indeed, they show so little of their initiative that we have no indication they tried anything at all over the many previous millennia. So instead they have to import the villain from the previous game because otherwise there'd be no story here. This undercuts the credibility of every villain in the game, as well as introduces all of the tiresome, well-established problems that come with multiverse stories. Which again, makes me wonder why they did this in the first place. Even if you want to reboot the timeline, surely there are ways to do this that don't have this built-in flaw. maruhkati fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Sep 15, 2023 |
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Imagine if shang tsung just brought back an army of T-1000’s and jason voorheeses. If it gets us the massive hivemind of RoboCops from the end of RoboCop vs. Terminator, I'm down for this.
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Beat the story mode, liked it a lot! Like MK9 speedrunning MK1-3, I did like this one speed running DA/DE/A with some changes. I liked that other than Bi-Han OBVIOUSLY betraying Earthrealm, none of the good guys ended up betraying everyone. Its a fun dynamic now with a mix of original good guys and former bad guys on the good side. I will look forward to future sequels! As far as the kharacters go, Shang Tsung is electric. The voice actor kills it. A worthy successor of the Cary Takagawa Shang Tsung. I think all of the ninjas look and play pretty nicely. I said it before but I really like Li mei and Ashrah. They look incredible, Li Mei has a more generic costume but she looks and moves just like Michelle Yeoh or similar and I love the pink magic effects. Cage is always the best in any of these games. Geras & Liu Kang look very loving cool, and Liu Kang plays really great. Raiden is pretty boring, and like everyone in the game I am annoyed at his humble nature. Havik is cool but other than jobbing a bit in the story he doesn't do much. Reiko is just the new villain jobber. General Shao is whatever. Rain looks cool and I love all the water effects on his moves. Baraka rocks, but thats just per usual hes always one of my favs to play his moves are always fun. Kenshi is whatever. I didn't like that the story mode chapter for him took place before he got powers as it made the chapter boring without any good moves. Tanya I think her fighting style/moves are cool but I really dislike the look they gave her. The hair style is just so dumb  The final storymode chapter was so funny and I absolutely loved all the kharacter mashups. Also thought it was funny when they killed all the kombat kids brutally. had to be one for the haters there. Jerkface fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Sep 15, 2023 |
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Final Chapter I really want to see a mash up of all the playable characters running through the ending. I want to see what Shao or Shang Tsung say after they save the universe and Liu kang goes "and they called me the Chosen One."
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I want MK Blackadder with the same 10 characters but in different time periods,18th century shakespearean thesp jonathan cane and his love interest Sonya dagger. Fighting against villains Dr.K.No. and Mr.cold hands (idon’tfuckinknow)
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I'm really puzzled how some of the facial animations might look really good on some characters and just utterly atrociously weird on others. I also didn't think the voice acting could be any worse than rousey but Megan Fox proved us all wrong. Lol
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G-III posted:I'm really puzzled how some of the facial animations might look really good on some characters and just utterly atrociously weird on others. I was just watching that goon's Mileena intro video now that I cleared the story (and since apparently the tower doesnt feature them which is annoying as I loved watching them while getting all the endings ) and its so stark when contrasted with Mileena's VO who is putting on a crazy voice, doing it well, and then you have Fox come in like she just recorded herself at home. No attempt to add anything to Nitara's voice at all. I feel like NRS should have put a filter on it or something.
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widespread posted:I can't believe the Deadly Alliance was a good idea The lines about ”I would never lead my champions unawares into… Mortal Kombat” and the Deadly Alliance name drop had me absolutely losing it.
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[quote="Jerkface" post="534604298"] Beat the story mode, liked it a lot! Like MK9 speedrunning MK1-3, I did like this one speed running DA/DE/A with some changes. I liked that other than Bi-Han OBVIOUSLY betraying Earthrealm, none of the good guys ended up betraying everyone. Its a fun dynamic now with a mix of original good guys and former bad guys on the good side. I will look forward to future sequels! This is how I felt about it, I like that a lot of the series traditionally one dimensional jobber villains like Baraka, Reptile, and Mileena got a sympathetic push after being punching bags for so long. I'm not a fan of how the story straight up forgets some characters exist (I'm more than convinced Smoke was put in entirely due to fan requests rather than actually because he had a role to play in the story) and I'd be incredibly annoyed that they're doubling down on the multiverse stuff if it weren't for the final chapter payoff making it worth it. The whole thing ends on a bit too happy a note for me since 9/X/11 all end on pyrrhic victories which has felt like an appropriate tone for the series. While I appreciate getting to pick my character for the final chapter, it sort of makes the ending fall a bit flat for me- I picked Smoke and his complete lack of participation in the rest of the story or the epilogue makes the whole thing a bit weird. It seems like they should have played your characters ladder ending after finishing the story since they all are supposedly canonical. All in all I'd be a bit disappointed, but the post credits sequence sets things up nicely for a chaosrealm oriented DLC storymode and I think this story at least established a pretty good place for the new core roster of new era good guys to participate in follow up stories.
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I gotta stop reading this thread because it's making the wait till tuesday even worse, but one quick question: Do any of Reptile's alt costumes effect his lizard form in any way? I imagine not, since it would just be easier, but it'd be cool to have some lizard monster variations.
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Do we know if there’s any guaranteed alt costume unlocks right now or is it all going to be purchases?
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Alright done with the story (which was amazing) and now I'm trying learn how to actually play anyone. Sub seems like a good noob kharacter for now, but I'm having trouble doing any actual kombos. All I got right now is B2 + B2 + A134 for about 27%. I can mix that up with low strings, kind of, but I'd like to have more than just that one kombo :/
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:So spoilers about the big final fight : all those alt characters just turned evil one day and decided “yes evil is hot evil is cool,evil it is for me”? In Shang's MK11 ending, he specifically makes himself the one Elder God and rewires every other character's destiny, including Raiden, so they've always been his loyal servant. Presumably that's what you're seeing in the finale: an army of the same characters clashing, but one side's heroic, whereas the other side are all die-hard servants of Titan Shang and/or Titan Quan Chi. What I'd imagine the real issue with the overall story is that somebody Kramered into the room during a writers' meeting and yelled "multiverses are hot right now! we need one!" There are some clever aspects to it, including a lot of subtle, fun character bits. I'm particularly fond of the bit in Johnny's chapter where Liu Kang rings the doorbell like a normal person, instead of teleporting directly into his living room the way Raiden might've. Liu Kang's also visibly isolated by his role, like how he keeps loving up in little ways. Once he comes clean, though, he comes clean all the way without prevarication. What I wonder is if the story began as "here's what Liu Kang overlooked in his original master plan." The primary crack in his formula is that some characters don't want a sustained period of peace, primarily Bi-Han and Shao. Even the best possible version of a paradise logically wouldn't work for everyone in it. You could get a pretty good MK out of the sudden end of Outworld's golden age, with wild cards like Nitara and Havik taking advantage, while Earthrealm is caught off guard due to one of its first lines of defense suddenly switching sides. Of course, then the story takes a relatively sudden shift into "it was
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It is metaphysically impossible to create a universe where Bi Han has any chill whatsoever.
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Orv posted:It is metaphysically impossible to create a universe where Bi Han has any chill whatsoever. that sounds like something bihan would say
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Wanderer posted:What I'd imagine the real issue with the overall story is that somebody Kramered into the room during a writers' meeting and yelled "multiverses are hot right now! we need one!" And that somebody is Ed Boon. If you follow him he posts gifs from Endgame all the time and talks about how there's never been a cooler cinematic moment than this and so on. He absolutely loves it.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:And that somebody is Ed Boon. If you follow him he posts gifs from Endgame all the time and talks about how there's never been a cooler cinematic moment than this and so on. He absolutely loves it. He has good taste.
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