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Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


crepeface posted:

it doesn't exist

I saw somebody on twitter who'd received an advance physical copy and was making GBS threads on it lol

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BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
Liz go on Movie Mindset to talk about F is for Fake with Will :getin:


also ive always wanted the boys to do a movie episode on 2006's The Good Shepherd for obvious reasons

BornAPoorBlkChild has issued a correction as of 18:18 on Sep 15, 2023

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009

Frosted Flake posted:

Meg go on Chapo




Perfect

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


this a pretty amusing write up from the LA times on the sexual revolution ~debate~

https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1702502997471981619

quote:

Commentary: Bari Weiss’ big L.A. debate was less ‘free expression’ than self-promotion
Lorraine Ali

Has the sexual revolution failed?

Five women took to the stage at the Theatre at Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles on Wednesday to debate an impossibly broad question with the promise of fireworks for an animated crowd, members of which paid up to $165 a ticket to witness a verbal brawl between cultural provocateurs.

Former New York Times opinion writer and full-time agitator Bari Weiss moderated the most-certainly-not-right-wing-how-could-you-even-suggest-such-a-thing event, which kicked off with comedian Tim Dillon joking about transgender teens and how bored he was with the war in Ukraine. The panel then was split into two teams: Author and Daily Mail writer Louise Perry and “Red Scare” podcaster Anna Khachiyan were positioned to argue that the movement failed, while musician Grimes and writer and podcaster Sarah Haider took the other side.

They were tasked with arguing whether the movement of the 1960s, ’70s and ’80s was responsible for making women happier or more depressed. Did the advent of the Pill exacerbate the sexual commodification of women, or liberate them? And are women having less sex and fewer orgasms now than they were in the atomic age?

If you’re looking for smart, incisive, even plain provocative dialogue about those questions, stop reading here. There was little to no daylight between the panelists’ views, and they were tethered by a common goal: calling attention to their own brands by sitting on the shoulders of the very movement that afforded them the freedom to sit on that stage and talk in circles.

As for the contentious viral moments that organizers might have hoped to leverage into financial support, followers or cultural cachet, those never happened. The audience of 1,600-plus, all primed to cheer the speakers’ adversarial views, found less and less to react to as the panel digressed. Rowdy millennials in Camille Paglia T-shirts, stoic middle-aged men in promotional “Free Press” baseball caps and well-groomed seniors in the pricey seats up front instead witnessed a group of like-minded women mostly agreeing with one another. There’s an art to skating on the edge of right-wing rage while pretending to be a nondenominational outsider, a skill Weiss has tried to harness over the years with varying degrees of success. Wednesday’s event was a prime example of what it looks like when the act falls flat.

None of the participants appeared terribly well versed in the art of debate, either. The discussion was so disorganized and meandering it felt more like a “Black Lady Sketch Show” parody of a pseudo-intellectual lecture on feminism, but with no Black panelists and substance that borrowed from the contrarianism of Bill Maher, the antiliberalism of Newsmax and the prattle of a Young Republicans rally.

Perry admitted the movement had its upsides for women, but it’s been very hard on men, and we should all listen to our grandmothers now to get back to “normal.” Khachiyan, who found it necessary to vape during the discussion, proclaimed she was “a mother trying to keep her child out of the clutches of rabid ideologues, while making sure not to indoctrinate him too far in the opposite direction.” “Still, it would be hypocritical for me to blame the sexual revolution for everything,” she continued. “Instead I’d like to blame liberals.” All cited Paglia as their feminist hero except for Grimes, who appeared wholly unprepared for the rest of the panel’s canned talking points on second-wave feminism, intersectionality and sex-positivity. (As a result, the Canadian singer-songwriter came off as the only sincere voice of the bunch.)

The debate was the first in a planned series organized by Weiss’ new media venture, the Free Press, and the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE), a group that claims to advocate for free speech on college campuses — except when the speakers don’t share its political views. (Weiss also has experience in this area.)

The two-hour main program started with remarks from Weiss, who wasted no time in mentioning how she’d been “canceled” more times than she could count. As a Columbia University undergraduate, she led a movement against professors who she felt were quashing her opinions. Later, she was brought on the New York Times during the Trump presidency to expand the scope of its Op-Ed section, but she left in 2020, claiming her “forays into Wrongthink have made me the subject of constant bullying by colleagues who disagree with my views.”

On Wednesday, Weiss referred more than once to a liberal culture that is too easily offended by opposing opinions — before turning to her panel of three same-minded activists and a singer-songwriter who was likely brought in to draw attention to the event. (Grimes, who has three children with her former partner, SpaceX executive Elon Musk, created a flurry of press this week when she suggested in a now-deleted social media post that Musk and his current partner were blocking her from seeing her son; the musician has since apologized.) Though Grimes couldn’t argue feminist theory like the other women onstage, she was the most authentic in expressing her belief that women, motherhood and children were undervalued in American society.

The debate started with a vote from the audience, via text, which found that the majority in attendance believed the sexual revolution had failed. By the end of the event, another vote showed the balance of opinion had changed by a few percentage points, but it remained unclear what else was accomplished besides Weiss getting a chance to hold court.

Real journalism? How about some truth in advertising: The debate’s title should have been “Agitating for Followers: the Art of Calling Attention to Oneself While Saying Absolutely Nothing."

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
no

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


one hundred and sixty five loving dollars

e: oh, "up to", so that's the vip price. still, terrible.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

I am so much dumber just for knowing that this event happened

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Doc Hawkins posted:

one hundred and sixty five loving dollars

e: oh, "up to", so that's the vip price. still, terrible.

we could do a fun activity or have a nice dinner, or we could see some of the most odious people alive talk like retards, what should we spend that money on??

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

FIRE is such a loving joke lmao

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
self promotion from red scare? why, I never!

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/SarahTheHaider/status/1702690448165196055?s=20

they want that event to seem edgy and confrontational but instead got goon meet and NAFO energy

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...
Lol chapo had guests on praising capitalism

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

err posted:

Lol chapo had guests on praising capitalism

those aren't the guests, they're the hosts

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
It sure was sad when all of Chapo died in that hot air ballooning accident in 2017 and they had to break out the clones made by the CIA

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

tokin opposition posted:

It sure was sad when all of Chapo died in that hot air ballooning accident in 2017 and they had to break out the clones made by the CIA

Matt followed his own advice and killed himself and everyone he knew

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

the episode was fine you babies

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

V. Illych L. posted:

the episode was fine you babies

That doesn't make sense, no one would exaggerate something that was said on chapo

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
can’t believe they executed Pat Pespas on mic

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

the guests were mid-info libs and one of them reflexively said something like "i don't mean this as, like, an indictment of american capitalism as such or anything..." which is a completely normie position and he clearly felt awkward once he'd said it and wanted to move on

they've made what sounds like a good show, it's fine that they're not entirely Correct

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

V. Illych L. posted:

the episode was fine you babies

goons.... saying something completely opposite of what happened and grotesquely misinterpreting everything to make bad posts on somethingawful dot com??

no.. i refuse to believe it

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

V. Illych L. posted:

the guests were mid-info libs and one of them reflexively said something like "i don't mean this as, like, an indictment of american capitalism as such or anything..." which is a completely normie position and he clearly felt awkward once he'd said it and wanted to move on

they've made what sounds like a good show, it's fine that they're not entirely Correct

the first episode is good because of early 00s home video office vibes and the rest is ok. its carried by Patrick J. Pespas, a wonderful character

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

can’t believe will said India was cleaner when the British ruled it

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Matt talking about how the dirty Hindus will always be gutter creatures and how Buddhism is the superior religion.

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

They hated Futanari because His posts were shit.
Personally, I am reserving judgment

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
I honestly haven't listened to chapo in a few years. there was a while (maybe still) where every episode was just them reading tweets they saw today and it wasn't good content

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

my bony fealty posted:

I am so much dumber just for knowing that this event happened

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Bip Roberts posted:

I honestly haven't listened to chapo in a few years. there was a while (maybe still) where every episode was just them reading tweets they saw today and it wasn't good content

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

AnimeIsTrash posted:

can’t believe will said India was cleaner when the British ruled it

Yeah, they say a lot of stuff I disagree with these days, but this really shocked me. Maybe it was a bit?

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

StashAugustine posted:

That doesn't make sense, no one would exaggerate something that was said on chapo

This was my favorite part of the chappo listening experience.

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

trueanon is the better podcast

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo

AnimeIsTrash posted:

can’t believe will said India was cleaner when the British ruled it

mfw Felix revealed he has crippling body dysmorphia

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
Dasha throwing away a real acting career because she NEEDED to interview Alex Jones will never not be funny.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


AnimeIsTrash posted:

Matt talking about how the dirty Hindus will always be gutter creatures and how Buddhism is the superior religion.

not very buddhist of him

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

mcmagic posted:

Dasha throwing away a real acting career because she NEEDED to interview Alex Jones will never not be funny.

according to imdb her career isn't over

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

studio mujahideen posted:

trueanon is the better podcast

Latest one cold opens with a description of Obama's dick. No exaggeration when you talk about Trueanon

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

mcmagic posted:

Dasha throwing away a real acting career because she NEEDED to interview Alex Jones will never not be funny.

prob realized it wasn’t really gonna go anywhere

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

tristeham posted:

according to imdb her career isn't over

She’s nowhere near big enough for non-internet poisoned people to give a poo poo about her and red scare is probably more lucrative than her acting career anyway

If she ever broke though she’d be in some deep poo poo and it’d be hilarious but seems pretty unlikely that she’ll ever be big enough that a controversy would matter

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

didn’t one of them refuse to get vaccinated and end up disabled from long Covid

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

FrancisFukyomama posted:

didn’t one of them refuse to get vaccinated and end up disabled from long Covid

Anna almost dying from covid is probably more a reflection of her being a profoundly ugly person inside and out

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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
Good Chapo ep, looking forward to watching the HBO show.

Seeking Derangements is fun. They're trying really hard to get Malik Obama on, and wouldn't that be something?

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