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Zazamoot posted:After Alien 3, if there had to be more movies, the films should have explored the awful stuff that a corporation like WY would get up to once obtaining samples of the alien. It seems the only storyline anyone can think of is "Bad corporation gets alien, incompetently fails to contain it". A core theme of the first and second movies is that capitalist corporations are by nature ruthless and uncaring ("crew expendable"). It's understandable that Ripley's fear would be the company underestimating the creature and accidentally infecting Earth, but the scarier scenario should be what WY would be capable of doing deliberately. The Dark Horse comics delved a bit into this, where it's discovered that the xenos make for lovely bioweapons, but they excrete a substance branded as "Royal Jelly" that is like a cure-all/performance-enhancing drug/euphoric. Much of the post Earth War stuff is based around various corporate entities trying to find a way to harvest this new green gold. Of course, I believe this is also the origin of the "Bug Men" from the Colonial Marines series, the xeno-human hybrid cult that serves as the villains of the comic. Essentially, taking so much Royal Jelly starts turning people into these hybrids.
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The psychic stuff with queens was also a fun twist. The queens essentially forced people to have dream-visions, and the queen that some non WY corp had on earth managed to break out of her cage via cultists that were being tormented by these dreams. Their torment ended soon enough, though  e: definitely misremembering some of this, but I think it was the start of the Earth War comic line. Icon Of Sin fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Sep 17, 2023 |
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Sep 17, 2023 16:39
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Anyone else remember the comic about the xeno homeworld, and how they are not the apex life form? As in there's another species that takes them down and no, it's not the Predator. Think about it: a natural predator of the xeno that can actually gently caress it up.
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Icon Of Sin posted:The psychic stuff with queens was also a fun twist. The queens essentially forced people to have dream-visions, and the queen that some non WY corp had on earth managed to break out of her cage via cultists that were being tormented by these dreams. Their torment ended soon enough, though Yeah you’re right. The cultists were hearing her “sing” to them, and they break into the old NORAD bunker where the idiot company is holding her, under the mountains in Colorado I believe, and run in there and allow themselves to be facehugged. Then others grab their unconscious bodies and spirit them away to all corners of the earth, to begin the infestation.
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Sep 17, 2023 17:06
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MrMojok posted:Yeah you’re right. The cultists were hearing her “sing” to them, and they break into the old NORAD bunker where the idiot company is holding her, under the mountains in Colorado I believe, and run in there and allow themselves to be facehugged. Is this the Stargate/Aliens crossover?
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ChairmanMauzer posted:Is this the Stargate/Aliens crossover? Close the iris!
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Cowslips Warren posted:Anyone else remember the comic about the xeno homeworld, and how they are not the apex life form? As in there's another species that takes them down and no, it's not the Predator. Think about it: a natural predator of the xeno that can actually gently caress it up. I vaguely remember this. The other species was kinda pale pink and boring and featureless, versus the dark, biomechanical intricacies of the xeno. That's about all I can remember
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My favourite sub-story that isn't specifically about WY is Dr. Church being kept alive in a dying hive in Aliens: Labyrinth https://youtu.be/NTJQ2RD0Y2c?si=7MBc2uWFZSUczK3a It's gross, but interesting the survival tactics of both Church and the Aliens.
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Fatrick posted:My favourite sub-story that isn't specifically about WY is Dr. Church being kept alive in a dying hive in Aliens: Labyrinth Man that's some creepy poo poo - reminds me of I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream. Thanks for sharing. A dying hive is such a cool idea for a different angle. Why couldn't we get something weird like this instead of the lame poo poo in Prometheus and Covenant.
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Sep 17, 2023 23:13
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Another phrase I use from Aliens still. During a situation that has turned difficult: MARINES! We are LEAVING!!!!!
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MrMojok posted:Yeah you’re right. The cultists were hearing her “sing” to them, and they break into the old NORAD bunker where the idiot company is holding her, under the mountains in Colorado I believe, and run in there and allow themselves to be facehugged. These comics sound awesome, where can I read a copy?
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Mister Speaker posted:These comics sound awesome, where can I read a copy? Non-comic, this omnibus of novelizations has it: Aliens Omnibus Volume One Another thing is these YouTube videos, which are basically a guy showing screenshots of the comics and reading some of the dialogue. The Earth Hive stuff starts here: https://youtu.be/XG63Ac9u1kQ?si=eGKIXcr88ZTosZdn https://youtu.be/A10GCJHs7y0?si=focXISfJvjjWr4dP https://youtu.be/u4RkHLjHl2g?si=H8-JxJ6ubUX7PGiO https://youtu.be/ArOHUdgojtM?si=4OdCzs5qKck4nOoV https://youtu.be/OzE80T9CJkg?si=Jabo1H4l74TfbdoE https://youtu.be/yOduG8hgTf8?si=HeIF9rUIVchaseLA If you want the physical comics but don’t want to try and chase down all the individual issues, this trade paperback has them: Aliens Omnibus Volume One (comics)
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redshirt posted:Another phrase I use from Aliens still. During a situation that has turned difficult: This is also not the line
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redshirt posted:Another phrase I use from Aliens still. During a situation that has turned difficult: I use "Looks like she don't like the cornbread either!"
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Fatrick posted:I use "Looks like she don't like the cornbread either!" LOL me too. I'm wondering now if I have any other decades old Aliens quotes I've been using.
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Mister Speaker posted:These comics sound awesome, where can I read a copy? Here's a synopsis on it: https://youtu.be/XG63Ac9u1kQ?si=6MnV23_9b7NDy4Fl It's from Aliens: Outbreak, aka Aliens: Earth Hive. Earth war is the sequel. 
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Sep 18, 2023 02:38
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Gorman you always were a son of a bitch *Blows huge explosive
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redshirt posted:Gorman you always were an rear end in a top hat FTFY
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Thank you *Grabs your suicide hand
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I can't remember a persons name 2 seconds after I'm introduced but Maricheck, John J? I know he died during surgery before embryo implantation. They killed him trying to take it off
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redshirt posted:Thank you One of my favourite scenes in the entire goddamn movie. Vasquez pulls the grenade, pops the safety cover off and depresses the trigger. she and Gorman pile on hands on said grenade right as the alien attacks. Boom. An iconic Last Stand moment. E: I’m so old that I watched the movie in the theatre in 1986 as a teenager. It was loving awesome. tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Sep 18, 2023 |
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tango alpha delta posted:E: I’m so old that I watched the movie in the theatre in 1986 as a teenager. It was loving awesome. I saw it with friends back in high school. Then, a week later I saw it again with my girlfriend and one of her friends. I was watching them, not the screen, for the med lab jump scare. They delivered.
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mllaneza posted:I saw it with friends back in high school. Then, a week later I saw it again with my girlfriend and one of her friends. I was watching them, not the screen, for the med lab jump scare. They delivered. Looks like love at first sight. Aliens has so, so many good lines.
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tango alpha delta posted:One of my favourite scenes in the entire goddamn movie. Vasquez pulls the grenade, pops the safety cover off and depresses the trigger. she and Gorman pile on hands on said grenade right as the alien attacks. Boom. Getting chills just reading that. I saw Aliens in the theaters multiple times. Not only was it just a great movie, it's such a cool concept to take the "Last Girl Standing" from the previous space horror movie, and give her this whole bad rear end arc in a space horror action movie.
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redshirt posted:Another phrase I use from Aliens still. During a situation that has turned difficult: When I was in the USMC this was quoted constantly. Leaving a restaurant? Might as well say it.
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Where's Bowski?! Where's Bowski?! An Aliens FB group that I recently joined had a couple of people quote that lol. Yes, they were told it was actually someone's full last name, Wierzbowski.
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"Hisssssss" --the alien that gets Burke
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I think this has come up in the thread before but when Ripley and the queen reach their accord, but then an egg opens...was that an intentional doublecross or more of a "noooo not now dumbass" accident
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WHY BONER NOW posted:I think this has come up in the thread before but when Ripley and the queen reach their accord, but then an egg opens...was that an intentional doublecross or more of a "noooo not now dumbass" accident I always thought it was the latter. She knew the whole place was going to be vaporized in just a couple of minutes anyway. That head tilt is one of my favorite non-spoken lines in the movie.
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WHY BONER NOW posted:I think this has come up in the thread before but when Ripley and the queen reach their accord, but then an egg opens...was that an intentional doublecross or more of a "noooo not now dumbass" accident I tend to think the queen did trigger that somehow, it was too good a way to deal with the threat Ripley posed if she hadn’t noticed, and given how drat far the queen went to get Ripley and Newt I don’t think she would have just let them escape anyway.
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Yeah, I don't think it was a clear understanding between them. I mean, "they're animals." Ripley showed big flame and pointed it at the eggs. The queen recognized this as a serious threat and had the two guards back off. I would imagine as soon as Ripley left the room the guards would have been on her. It probably worked out for the best that the egg opened up then and she torched everything and killed the guards while they were in front of her.
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The queen is smart, but if I learned anything from working as a zookeeper and the movie Nope, it's that even trained animals are still loving wild. Just because the lion let you pass by one way doesn't mean he won't nail you the second your back is turned. Or you look to the side. Or anything. Rescuing a baby bear from a trap doesn't mean mom bear will let you leave alive. The queen didn't know the place was going to be vaporized. I would love to see some extra parasite poo poo on the xeno side. As in something that natively preys and parasitizes on the xenos too.
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Cowslips Warren posted:The queen didn't know the place was going to be vaporized. In case this was directed towards my comment, I was referring to Ripley.  Well, unless the queen had a degree in nuclear physics or something.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Yeah, I don't think it was a clear understanding between them. I mean, "they're animals." Isn't that line another example of the Marines underestimating the Aliens, though?
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Cowslips Warren posted:I would love to see some extra parasite poo poo on the xeno side. As in something that natively preys and parasitizes on the xenos too. That goes back to my question about what happens if a facehugger impregnates another xenomorph.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Well, unless the queen had a degree in nuclear physics or something. Rascar Capac posted:Isn't that line another example of... underestimating the Aliens, though? Like, we don't know that she doesn't. Just because she's the mother of hundreds of murderous killing machines with acid for blood doesn't mean she can't have a rich inner life, follow her own interests, or pursue a fulfilling career outside of the hive.
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Rascar Capac posted:Isn't that line another example of the Marines underestimating the Aliens, though? True. madeintaipei posted:Like, we don't know that she doesn't. Also true... 
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Pennywise the Frown posted:That head tilt is one of my favorite non-spoken lines in the movie. That head tilt alone was worth an Oscar nod. Rascar Capac posted:Isn't that line another example of the Marines underestimating the Aliens, though? For as much flack as it gets for arguably turning the xenos into "big bugs," Aliens does make some significant gestures toward them possibly being something more/else. These movies work best IMO when they're monsters, not animals. Aliens included.
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The Xenos have no tech, correct? But they clearly can understand it - like when they cut the power. They can also use strategy and tactics that seems beyond just hive response behavior. They're smart, but not overly so.
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