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mind the walrus posted:Idiots on Social Media: Dry bones is by definition an incel  OwlFancier posted:The programming language or the video game? Here's a hint: socks will be very important
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emSparkly posted:Seriously, out of every "censorship" controversy in gaming, the one around new Lara confuses me the most. Her boobs are still pretty big for someone her size imo. There was one? The main thing I remember about the new (""new"", the reboot is a decade old already.) Lara was that there was a lot of discussion around the really harsh death cutscenes. Trying to apply logic to the censorship weirdos is kinda futile, because they also get riled up by people making a photoshop, and then getting angry that the photoshop isn't real. (Weren't some people annoyed that the lady rabbit in the new Space Jam was 'censored/woke'.... because the image they used as reference was from some furry porn?)
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Sep 17, 2023 20:57
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At this point there's a contingent of people addicted to turning the crank on the outrage machine for attention and/or money. There's nothing too petty or irrelevant for them to screech about and we're beyond the pale in so many ways. The last few months on twitter have been a microcosm of outrage farming and things will probably get worse
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Sep 17, 2023 21:12
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emSparkly posted:Seriously, out of every "censorship" controversy in gaming, the one around new Lara confuses me the most. Her boobs are still pretty big for someone her size imo. Easy one: Could they be bigger? Have they been drawn bigger in porn fanart? Then it's evil censorship, to be blamed on woke Western audiences.
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Sep 17, 2023 21:14
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emSparkly posted:Seriously, out of every "censorship" controversy in gaming, the one around new Lara confuses me the most. Her boobs are still pretty big for someone her size imo. Making her look like a realistic approximation of an incredibly hot woman with great tits is not acceptable if your perception of hot women is based largely on porn and anime.
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Sep 17, 2023 21:23
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emSparkly posted:Seriously, out of every "censorship" controversy in gaming, the one around new Lara confuses me the most. Her boobs are still pretty big for someone her size imo. Their problem is that her boobs are realistically big, not anime big
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Sep 17, 2023 21:29
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The problem was that in the new games they tried to make her into a character, rather than a silent mannequin
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Sep 17, 2023 21:36
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The problem was also that the death scenes were almost pornographic in their depiction of Lara getting stabbed, crushed, drowned, and sliced.
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Sep 17, 2023 21:39
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Boobs <--------------------------x-------> Gruesome death scenes
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Sep 17, 2023 21:57
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Late to the party, but I'm fairly certain that "irredeemable media" Tumblr user is a high schooler listing every media property they've encountered that gave them the ick. That's why all the properties are either 1) modern-day stuff made for children and/or terminally-online people or 2) high school assigned reading. Like a lot of Tumblr SJWs, they're a kid with a lot of passion and no perspective. They'll most likely mellow out in a few years. Anyway I'm trying to find that "if you mistreat your OC you should lose custody of them" post but Tumblr's search function sucks
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Sep 17, 2023 21:59
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Philippe posted:The problem was also that the death scenes were almost pornographic in their depiction of Lara getting stabbed, crushed, drowned, and sliced. Yeah, I saw them years after they were originally released and they were incredibly creepy and gross in the way they managed to conflate a violent death with weird sexualized noises.
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Sep 17, 2023 22:06
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Philippe posted:The problem was also that the death scenes were almost pornographic in their depiction of Lara getting stabbed, crushed, drowned, and sliced. True, but that's not what the terminally online weirdos were concerned about.
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Sep 17, 2023 22:11
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I really enjoyed the new Tomb Raider games, but I like the Far Cry games and New Raider felt like Far Cry as a third-person shooter. Run around shooting bad guys with a bow and arrows while raiding tombs? Sign me up. The Lara death scenes were pretty yikes, though.
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Sep 17, 2023 22:22
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I liked that they played the Crofts as having a history of being totally bugfuck crazy. Lara pretty quickly fell into kind of unhinged in the second and third games. There was kind of a recurring thing where Jonah was pretty much her anchor to sanity.
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Sep 17, 2023 22:26
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I never saw the death scenes as anything but 'the island is extremely deadly and will kill you in an instant' and it's pretty weird how many people saw them and thought 'wow, this is porn'.
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Sep 17, 2023 22:27
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Aphrodite posted:Surprising nobody, the primary defense of this now is “what about Johnny Depp?” That whole trial pissed me off. It sure seemed to me like Amber Heard got railroaded. Even if nothing she said was true (I don't think she lied) I don't see how any of it rose to the level of defamation, given how hard it's supposed to be to prove defamation under US law.
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Sep 17, 2023 22:32
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They weren't literally porn, but they were definitely to the detriment of the game. There was no reason to have extremely detailed scenes of Lara desperately grasping at a steel bar that had impaled her throat, etc etc. How exactly is this adding to the experience? Some of the stuff would have been too hosed up even in a slasher movie.
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Sep 17, 2023 22:36
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Byzantine posted:I never saw the death scenes as anything but 'the island is extremely deadly and will kill you in an instant' and it's pretty weird how many people saw them and thought 'wow, this is porn'. You know how you can see a drawing that happens to include feet, and it's just oh, there's some feet there, like it's someone in swimwear on a beach or something, just normal barefootedness. But then you see another one and the feet just obviously had way more care and attention put into them than any of the rest of the piece? Feet aren't inherently sexual, BUT...
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Sep 17, 2023 22:41
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Byzantine posted:I never saw the death scenes as anything but 'the island is extremely deadly and will kill you in an instant' and it's pretty weird how many people saw them and thought 'wow, this is porn'. Some of them are fine but for some of them they're really gratuitous, intimate, and the camera lingers just a touch too long. Like I don't really know if it was necessary to show Lara get impaled on a branch through the throat and have her flail around for a few seconds before going still. And then to have that death animation possibly trigger in three or four different sequences throughout the game. Or the couple times where you can get caught and have a dude hold Lara's head as he slowly slits her throat
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Sep 17, 2023 22:43
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i'm not going to accuse anyone of getting off to it because that's weird, but it does remain funny that it had all that kind of poo poo in it despite its reputation as being the serious, mature remake of the "bad-old-days", before-we-knew-any-better, PS1 games
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Sep 17, 2023 22:45
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I've always found it weird that with as much flak as those Tomb Raider death scenes have caught, no one ever mentions the end of Far Cry 3, which was released around the same time. The player's final act is a choice of whether or not to graphically slit the throat of the player character's girlfriend, who is tied up and begging for her life. To me, that's a lot worse. I don't know how it slipped under everyone's radar.
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Sep 17, 2023 22:47
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yeah that's why I don't think it was like "pornographic", so much as, there was this really stupid period where people put that kind of poo poo in games to come off as being really "serious"
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Sep 17, 2023 22:52
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steinrokkan posted:They weren't literally porn, but they were definitely to the detriment of the game. There was no reason to have extremely detailed scenes of Lara desperately grasping at a steel bar that had impaled her throat, etc etc. How exactly is this adding to the experience? Some of the stuff would have been too hosed up even in a slasher movie. It was a throwback to the early games having grissly deaths. Though modern tech and graphics make the whole thing worse. I feel the same way about Mortal Kombat Fatalities. Not being a teen ghoul also probably shades your reaction to torture porn and gore.
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Sep 17, 2023 22:53
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i find MK stuff to be too outlandish to really take seriously, which I think is the vibe they're going for E) the other poo poo I remember was the dev quotes about looking at like, autopsy photos and poo poo to make the gore as realistic as possible in The Last of Us 2
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Sep 17, 2023 22:54
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Tbh., the real problem here is that you lot don't find the booba/kiki image as funny as I do.
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Sep 17, 2023 22:55
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Feels Villeneuve posted:i find MK stuff to be too outlandish to really take seriously, which I think is the vibe they're going for Netherrealm did the same thing for Mortal Kombat 10 and 11. They did a pretty poo poo job of offering mental heath resources and counseling to their employees after basically making them look at the pain series as part of their jobs.
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Sep 17, 2023 22:57
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Antigravitas posted:Tbh., the real problem here is that you lot don't find the booba/kiki image as funny as I do. I liked it too, friend emSparkly posted:Netherrealm did the same thing for Mortal Kombat 10 and 11. They did a pretty poo poo job of offering mental heath resources and counseling to their employees after basically making them look at the pain series as part of their jobs.
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steinrokkan posted:The problem was that in the new games they tried to make her into a character, rather than a silent mannequin
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Sep 17, 2023 23:00
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old ones: british aldy who jets around dual wielding pistols and shooting dinosaurs new ones: college student who slowly chokes to death while her throat is impaled on a pole
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Sep 17, 2023 23:01
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emSparkly posted:Netherrealm did the same thing for Mortal Kombat 10 and 11. They did a pretty poo poo job of offering mental heath resources and counseling to their employees after basically making them look at the pain series as part of their jobs. Oh yeah that's bad I just find like, blatant trashiness less objectionable than "elevated" trashiness like TLOU2
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Sep 17, 2023 23:02
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my main memory fo the tombr aider reboot is some 13 follower twitter lady mildly criticizing the writing and the lead writer replying with a giant rant about how WOMEN SHOULDNT TEAR EACH OTHER DOWN
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Endorph posted:old ones: british aldy who jets around dual wielding pistols and shooting dinosaurs Yeah it's really this. Like it's fine if you want to make an origin story where Lara becomes the teenager but the actual game got really weird at times when she'd go all shivery and scared in a cutscene after mowing down fifty dudes in a fortified outpost. Endorph posted:my main memory fo the tombr aider reboot is some 13 follower twitter lady mildly criticizing the writing and the lead writer replying with a giant rant about how WOMEN SHOULDNT TEAR EACH OTHER DOWN I vaguely remember it was some semi-notable Anita Sarkeesian wannabe thinkpiece writer. Vincent Van Goatse has a new favorite as of 23:10 on Sep 17, 2023 |
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Sep 17, 2023 23:08
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You win social media when a creator personally melts down to your mild criticism
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Sep 17, 2023 23:09
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:You win social media when a creator personally melts down to your mild criticism this post is mid
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Sep 17, 2023 23:23
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steinrokkan posted:They weren't literally porn, but they were definitely to the detriment of the game. There was no reason to have extremely detailed scenes of Lara desperately grasping at a steel bar that had impaled her throat, etc etc. How exactly is this adding to the experience? Some of the stuff would have been too hosed up even in a slasher movie. It was very, very funny when Conan tried to play and couldn't get passed one. Vincent Van Goatse posted:Yeah it's really this. Like it's fine if you want to make an origin story where Lara becomes the teenager but the actual game got really weird at times when she'd go all shivery and scared in a cutscene after mowing down fifty dudes in a fortified outpost. The game doesn't actually do that. It ramps up pretty well into Lara being a horror movie monster to the enemies.
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Pththya-lyi posted:They'll most likely mellow out in a few years. Has this been your experience with people on social media?
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https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1703404639473823781?s=46 You don’t like rape but you think the franchise should be expanded? Sounds like an ad hominem, checkmate Baquack Obamailures. 
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TinTower posted:https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1703404639473823781?s=46 There are so many loving checks on getting trans care for minors, from mandatory therapy, legal requirements to get parental approval, waiting periods (either de jure or de facto due to America's garbage medical system) and so much paperwork Rape requires a rapist and an opportunity
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Sep 17, 2023 23:55
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Platystemon posted:Has this been your experience with people on social media? I actually have seen a few people online go "yeah this person with the bizarre hot take was me, I was going through a lot of poo poo back then, I'm better now." Obviously #NotAllSocialMediaUsers but it does happen
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People whose income isn't based on the outrage machine tend to mellow out, flame out, or move on. However, there is always a new crop of people to replace them so the intensity always stays the same or goes up if more people get involved.
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