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So Soul Hackers 2 is $16 USD on Steam. Worth it at that price?
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Dawgstar posted:So Soul Hackers 2 is $16 USD on Steam. Worth it at that price? I'm still thinking about it now...it's $22.19 but I struggle to complete games nowadays. Alder fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Sep 16, 2023 |
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Sep 16, 2023 17:41
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I'm probably the biggest possible mark for the Persona 3 remake. Huge fan of P5 and that style, general interest in the themes/aesthetics of Persona games, enraptured by the good discussion on here, and my P5R post-finishing-the-game burnout is almost over. P3 blew by me originally because I was all about Bioshock and replaying FFX for the 20th time back in the day. It's also aged up just enough where it's a touch janky and sore on the eyes - which I know comes down to personal taste. Despite some glaring faults that people bring up on here, I'd still be interested to play it in it's reloaded, refreshed form. Iffyness included.
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Sep 16, 2023 18:01
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As long as you're not forced to harem all the girls to max out SLs I'll probably be reasonably happy. The one biggest change I'd make (well that and Operation Babe Hunt but I'll probably sigh and just file it away as 'Just Another Outdated Persona Mainstay').
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Sep 16, 2023 18:18
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https://twitter.com/gimmie20dollas/status/1703238612282699906
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Sep 17, 2023 11:34
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Truth gently caress retail.
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Sep 17, 2023 17:09
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i live in fear that persona 3 reload would hammer its theme like in p4/p5. god, i keep zoning out during p4's cutscenes because they wont stop speaking about de truths
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Sep 17, 2023 17:16
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Tired Moritz posted:i live in fear that persona 3 reload would hammer its theme like in p4/p5. god, i keep zoning out during p4's cutscenes because they wont stop speaking about de truths Did you not play P3, death was everywhere.
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Sep 17, 2023 17:21
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at least p3 actually had death have an impact on the characters and their lives instaed of having characters say 'the truth' while having really boring character arcs that have no relation to that
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Sep 17, 2023 17:21
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thats right, i have to face my true self: the same person i already was
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Sep 17, 2023 17:22
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ApplesandOranges posted:Did you not play P3, death was everywhere. yeah but it was like a vibe. there wasnt like speeches about deaths before, during and after every boss fight
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Sep 17, 2023 17:22
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I am currently replaying 3, and lemme tell you, I'd trade people not talking about the plot and themes for people talking about the plot and themes nine times outta ten. Nothing happens in this game
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Sep 17, 2023 17:26
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Omg, wait for the remake!!
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Sep 17, 2023 17:26
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I started this replay before Reload was announced and I'm continuing it because I'm curious about certain stuff I've forgotten about and how it'll be translated into Reload. So, no
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Sep 17, 2023 17:28
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Endorph posted:thats right, i have to face my true self: the same person i already was also I've already faced my worst trait, that I think I'm too good for this hick town, so now I don't have to address any of my many other character flaws no matter how frequently people point them out ot me
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Sep 17, 2023 17:28
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I like P4, it's not a very deep game and really it doesn't try that hard to be one. It has its issues, but it's still a fun ride.
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Sep 17, 2023 17:30
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I think P4 is the best nu Persona game but it really was the start of the protag hyper focus and the constant blabbering about its theme
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Sep 17, 2023 17:34
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Pretty sure P4 will always be my favorite Nu Persona game, despite its flaws. It just has the cast and setting I like the most and that is pretty much the entire allure of Persona games. Having an amazing soundtrack doesn't hurt either but that is a much closer race than which cast I like more.Tired Moritz posted:I think P4 is the best nu Persona game but it really was the start of the protag hyper focus and the constant blabbering about its theme And yet P3 is the only game with a final boss who feels justified by the game's themes. I love P4 to death but does anybody really like Izanami? Did anybody really like Yaldy? Nyx Avatar, despite its length and potential Confusion-full heal bullshit, is the only final boss of the new games I really enjoyed. Because it felt like the perfect resolution to what the game was about. Shido isn't really popular but most people love the Killer and certainly are more invested in stopping them than Izanami. "Abstract personification of the theme of the story" just has very little...emotional appeal, particularly when the game was all about somebody else, a much more real and human evil.
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Sep 17, 2023 18:19
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*bravely* Izanami is fine
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Sep 17, 2023 18:20
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Clearly you aren't Izanagi, Arist.
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Sep 17, 2023 18:35
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all the non-human villains are mid at best, including Nyx also all the human villains, except for the two absolutely incredible ones in P5/Royal
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Sep 17, 2023 18:39
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Nah, Adachi still really hits for me
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Sep 17, 2023 18:39
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The Royal final boss fight was a much better way to finish that game than Yaldy was to OG P5. Still, for all its faults, Yaldy as the behind the scenes manipulator was handled better than Izanami doing the same thing in P4.
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Sep 17, 2023 18:40
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...Yeah okay Adachi's not my favorite, but they're good.
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Sep 17, 2023 18:41
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The P5 villain Yaldy is the best kind of villain because even when all is revealed you still want him to come back and be your creepy deep-voiced jailer. Sorry, I feel nothing for real Igor. Plus I love the way he says "You were never boring," like drat dude, we get each other, why'd it have to be like this?
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Sep 17, 2023 19:09
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yeah but that's also when you meet Lavenza and she makes everything ok
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Sep 17, 2023 19:15
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:all the non-human villains are mid at best, including Nyx the arcana is the means by which all is revealed
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Sep 17, 2023 19:20
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There seems to be a cultural resonance to (P4) Izanami and P4's ruminations on the Truth that does not necessarily translate for non-Japanese audiences. I've read up enough to get to what they were going for but I'll admit it left me cold the first time I played. The twist that it was the gas station attendant was also kind blah. It should have been a character that maintained a presence throughout the story. (P5R) Maruki is conceptually the best boss but mechanically his fight is such an anticlimax. The Azathoth phase is fine and the Adam Kadmon reveal is great, but it does not deliver since the first phase is a pushover and the second phase is a playable cutscene. Yaldabaoth is a better final boss: it's thematically cogent and mechanically complex, capable of offering a challenge at the level you're expected to be at.
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Sep 17, 2023 19:30
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i don't mind a good scripted unlosable final boss really
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Sep 17, 2023 19:40
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Izanami should have been a Social Link
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Sep 17, 2023 19:47
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The problem with the Adam Kadmon fight isn't that it's unlosable, it's that you can quite easily take it down before it gets a turn
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Sep 17, 2023 20:09
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NikkolasKing posted:Pretty sure P4 will always be my favorite Nu Persona game, despite its flaws. It just has the cast and setting I like the most and that is pretty much the entire allure of Persona games. Having an amazing soundtrack doesn't hurt either but that is a much closer race than which cast I like more. The P5 final boss fight is such a bad case of not sticking the landing. Akechi is not only fire but an amazing distraction. And Yaldy should have been so good, but the final boss fight is a complete disaster that throws away the themes because the Yaldy final boss fight is almost entirely disconnected from Igor. If they'd just worked Yaldy to use Fake Igor's voice lines or catchphrases and had about half his special moves be based round the third eye, the guillotine, the gallows, or the electric chair, or even tearing personas in half it would have been awesome and far the best boss in the series. But as it was the final boss feels like they were air-dropped in from central casting and are a complete waste of something that had been excellently built up.
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Sep 17, 2023 21:31
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Usually, I prefer P4:G over P5 base game but now I've played P5:R I say it's my favorite Persona game for now. https://twitter.com/LY_Howe/status/1703059691293823233 I can't believe it's been 7 years later for the original P5 game 
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Sep 18, 2023 00:04
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Feels Villeneuve posted:i don't mind a good scripted unlosable final boss really 
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Sep 18, 2023 01:30
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P3's final boss still hits all the high benchmarks for a final boss with its thematic influences, difficulty, and of course, amazing boss music. You don't necessarily need the final boss to be difficult but at least have the good music. P4's and P5's were... 'fine' but not even as good as their games' regular battle themes.
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Sep 18, 2023 01:42
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ApplesandOranges posted:P4's and P5's were... 'fine' but not even as good as their games' regular battle themes. Disagree, especially on P4. The Genesis, The Fog, and The Almighty are all on my list of all time greats.
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Sep 18, 2023 01:49
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I remember P4's themes being awful, but don't remember 5's at all despite playing it much more recently, I'm not sure which is worse
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Sep 18, 2023 01:50
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When it gets to the orchestral refrain of the regular battle music, that P4 final boss track gets so drat good.
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Sep 18, 2023 01:51
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ApplesandOranges posted:P4's and P5's were... 'fine' but not even as good as their games' regular battle themes. I will disagree with this take to the grave. Yaldabaoth into Our Beginning for P5 and Throw Away Your Mask for P5R elevated those fights. Maybe the first song got overplayed for some because of how long the fight went, but if that's the case, The Battle For Everyone's Souls should get the same criticism for how long THAT fight went.
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