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Ardennes posted:Maybe it will have a healthier life on its own in the wild? Are you kidding? An f35 raised in captivity can't survive in the wild on its own. It has no idea how to launch live missiles or forage for jp8 by itself. I'm sorry to say that plane is almost certainly already dead.
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stephenthinkpad posted:Icebergs melting is the reason Russia and China spending so much in the arctic and new northern sea port to get in on the arctic sea route early. the US is obv the ferengi in this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqW4GVOZN7Q
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Supposedly they fished out that F35 that got drowned in the ocean because they afraid of China grabbing it from the bottom of the ocean.
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Slavvy posted:Are you kidding? An f35 raised in captivity can't survive in the wild on its own. It has no idea how to launch live missiles or forage for jp8 by itself. I'm sorry to say that plane is almost certainly already dead.  imagine that poor thing when it rains!
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based on how quick they are to lose A WHOLE loving 5TH GENERATION FIGHTER im starting to believe they couldn't find the shot down ufos afterall
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Mister Bates posted:people believed it so fanatically that there were multiple attempts in the 1980s to sneak into Vietnam or Laos to find and 'rescue' the prisoners they were allegedly still keeping, including one where they announced their starting location, date, and time, sold merch like flags and T-shirts to commemorate it, and were anticlimactically stopped by Laotian border police immediately and sent back Americans really do love a good conspiracy theory and will commit acts of war in service of them lol. Anyway yeah imagine sitting on prisoners for decades and decades as both of you turn into old men when you could just as get rid of them and close the camps and do something else. The only country I know of that does is... well what do you know, another projection, we do this with Gitmo  stephenthinkpad posted:Icebergs melting is the reason Russia and China spending so much in the arctic and new northern sea port to get in on the arctic sea route early. Au contraire, all investment in every country is dedicated to making the arctic ice free.
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stephenthinkpad posted:Supposedly they fished out that F35 that got drowned in the ocean because they afraid of China grabbing it from the bottom of the ocean. which is funny because it's a open secret that China got all the data on the F35 there's nothing they don't know about that plane
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leave it to a marine corp pilot to eject out of a perfectly good airplane. a very expensive game of lawn darts
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Regarde Aduck posted:which is funny because it's a open secret that China got all the data on the F35 I remember the ensuing witch hunt. Didn't they also manage to get F-22 stuff off the same server?
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Hatebag posted:china got the f35 specs and then put a second engine on it and got rid of vtol the chinese just copy and fix all the fuckups, and make it manufacturable, and downcost it, and and and
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I thought both the J20 and the upcoming J35 are twin engine fighters. How much can you copy from the single engine F35? Also the protype J31 thing looked much more like the F35.
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It's less of a thing you copy and more of an example of what not to do
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Delta-Wye posted:safety briefs gonna be rough in that squadron for a while ?? Everyone got home safe I don't see the problem
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Slavvy posted:?? Everyone got home safe I don't see the problem autoyeeted the pilot to safety. american engineering stays winning
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stephenthinkpad posted:I thought both the J20 and the upcoming J35 are twin engine fighters. How much can you copy from the single engine F35? Also the protype J31 thing looked much more like the F35. Every designer Ive heard talk about the j20 has said that its a unique design and that probably scares them more than them being carbon copies of existing us crafts
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dude, where's my $78 million 5th generation fighter jet?? 
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the f35 schematics are vital to chinese fighter development, anytime one of the engineers is feeling down all they have to do is go take a look at 'em and have a good, healthy laugh
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stephenthinkpad posted:I thought both the J20 and the upcoming J35 are twin engine fighters. How much can you copy from the single engine F35? Also the protype J31 thing looked much more like the F35. yeah that's part of why the "china stole the f35 blueprints" story doesn't make sense. they made a much better jet that's like half the price!
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As the knowledge that stealth is kind of a joke against L-band radars proliferates, people increasingly switch the argument for why the F-35 is awesome to avionics and network interfaces. Which I think are probably less copyable than manufacturing and physical performance specs, which by themselves are not very impressive. That said there is literally no reason why China could not write its own software and make its own network hardware with similar capabilities. Would probably work better than whatever Lockheed wrote.
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considering calling the hotline to ask if their f35 is running
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:As the knowledge that stealth is kind of a joke against L-band radars proliferates, people increasingly switch the argument for why the F-35 is awesome to avionics and network interfaces. Which I think are probably less copyable than manufacturing and physical performance specs, which by themselves are not very impressive. "our sensor fusion will make up for performance, stealth, weapons, and maintainability deficiencies" is just elan with more branding. our combat intangibles create unique value!!! you cant just shoot a pl15 at us!!!
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The Oldest Man posted:"our sensor fusion will make up for performance, stealth, weapons, and maintainability deficiencies" is just elan with more branding. our combat intangibles create unique value!!! you cant just shoot a pl15 at us!!! Whenever I dunk on the F-35 too hard a lot of my gearhead friends, who are not generally fans of the US, will come out of the woodwork to say how much people they know who got to fly F-35s salivate over them like that's an actual argument. Well of loving course some dipshit pilot will salivate over it, they willingly joined the US military.
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:Whenever I dunk on the F-35 too hard a lot of my gearhead friends, who are not generally fans of the US, will come out of the woodwork to say how much people they know who got to fly F-35s salivate over them like that's an actual argument. Whatever it is, it's still a fast jet and that's all anyone who signs up is dreaming about.
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:Whenever I dunk on the F-35 too hard a lot of my gearhead friends, who are not generally fans of the US, will come out of the woodwork to say how much people they know who got to fly F-35s salivate over them like that's an actual argument. i'll defer to any us military pilot who's seen air to air combat yeah i'll wait
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we can resolve this in war thunder with the proper documentation
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I hope that lil' plucky F-35 is having fun adventures around the world. 
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Danann posted:we can resolve this in war thunder with the proper documentation Hoping for a world where all international political disputes are settled Mobile Fighter G Gundam style via War Thunder matches. Every nation is now legally required to provide online War Thunder forums with extensive documentation in order to avoid disqualification.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Every designer Ive heard talk about the j20 has said that its a unique design and that probably scares them more than them being carbon copies of existing us crafts Which is funny because all the laymen hate it because it's different than american designs. Canards = no stealth, no gun = no dog fighting, this thing sucks.
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I tend to agree but it's probably a doctrine thing. Keep the expensive fighters back lobbing hypersonics, which they can carry more of without the weight of the gun, and send the cheaper fighters in closer.
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Remember when the US military said the F-35 was fully operational and in service and then Lockheed Martin said it will take another 4 years to write the software to fire the gun, and until then the gun does nothing. That was some years ago. I wonder if the gun works now. On a more serious note, yeah I think guns are good. The US has tried to get rid of guns from planes many times and it's always been a mistake. That said, the J-20 should be understood in the context of a high\low mix with Flankers, which are the world's most manoeuvrable dogfighters with the exception of the Su-57, of which only a handful exist. China operates a huge fleet of Flankers. The J-20s job is not dogfighting. Incidentally, the US also says the F-35's job is not dogfighting, and that dogfighting is stupid in general, so I doubt the US will be really trying to get into a dogfight with the J-20. The other thing is that if the US was at war with China, it would likely mostly rely on Hornets from carriers, and F-16s from local vassals. Neither of those is an F-35. Zeppelin Insanity has issued a correction as of 22:51 on Sep 18, 2023 |
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