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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Makes no odds to me, I'll be waiting until the following week anyway as I'm out of the country. Looking forward to it though, and yes, let's not drop our show at 3am so all the insomniacs can post spoilers before we are awake.

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Desperado Bones
Aug 29, 2009

Cute, adorable, and creepy at the same time!


I like that! I don't have to wait a whole rear end day to watch it. (I barely have time early in the morning)

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Yea i am liking Ahsoka being released at 9pm so i don't have to get up and see my youtube suggests being "Who is Mara Jade and Nomi Sunrider?" or "How Its possible for Sabine to be Han Solo's Grandmother" style videos.

It almost makes it appointment TV, though if you are busy for some reason, you still can watch it.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
I miss the old release time, much better than mid-morning.

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-0Li8Q14g8

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005
It's a good date change. Not enough shows release on Thursdays anymore. I'm so used to Weds, Friday and Sundays being the bigger release nights. Do we know how many episodes are in Loki? It could run into the new Dr. Who season if its a longer season. I'm guessing there will be another change in dates before something premieres.

Doronin
Nov 22, 2002

Don't be scared

twistedmentat posted:

Yea i am liking Ahsoka being released at 9pm so i don't have to get up and see my youtube suggests being "Who is Mara Jade and Nomi Sunrider?" or "How Its possible for Sabine to be Han Solo's Grandmother" style videos.

It almost makes it appointment TV, though if you are busy for some reason, you still can watch it.

Same. I got to where I'd stay completely off YouTube and TikTok for that exact reason. It's nice that I can just go home, chill and watch the show totally fresh before haphazard thumbnails spoil half the plot.

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005

Doronin posted:

Same. I got to where I'd stay completely off YouTube and TikTok for that exact reason. It's nice that I can just go home, chill and watch the show totally fresh before haphazard thumbnails spoil half the plot.

I hate YouTube for spoilers around noon the day after a show. "What that ending to episode 4 means for the future of Ahsoka" *shows picture of a major character*.

Also they always start the video off with something like "there will be spoilers, so if you don't want to see them, don't watch". Mother fucker, it's in the thumbnail and at the start of the episode.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



ShowTime posted:

It's a good date change. Not enough shows release on Thursdays anymore. I'm so used to Weds, Friday and Sundays being the bigger release nights. Do we know how many episodes are in Loki? It could run into the new Dr. Who season if its a longer season. I'm guessing there will be another change in dates before something premieres.
Appears to be 6 episodes

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005
Ahh, that makes sense. That should make it the prelude to Dr. Who, gets people used to a new Thursday date. Smart move.

La Louve Rouge
Jun 25, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Loki is also basically Marvel Doctor Who (not a dig, they're both timetravel shows about a hot, eccentric, ancient man) so it is a good lead-in

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

La Louve Rouge posted:

Loki is also basically Marvel Doctor Who (not a dig, they're both timetravel shows about a hot, eccentric, ancient man) so it is a good lead-in

Still can't get over episode 1 of (season 1) Loki featuring the line,"You're the criminal with the blue box!" from a clerk working for a group of bureaucrats that believes they are in charge of all of time and space :allears:

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Random news about Daredevil: Born Again.

- The former Netflix Showrunner says that from what he has seen, the show is looking good, but he thinks it is bullshit that it isn't officially season 4 of the show. He's mad that the show is essentially a revival of the Netflix show and by making it a technical reboot Disney is resetting the contracts for the staff to "season 1" instead of the payscale for a "season 4" of the show.

- It isn't an origin story, so they are skipping some of the angst and brooding about whether to become a superhero from the Netflix series. He will have been active for a while in NYC and enthusiastic about it.

- Charlie Cox says the show will be extremely similar to the Netflix show in terms of a dark tone and being "geared to a mature audience," but there will be less gore than the Netflix version.

- The previous "Early 2024" release date is off the table and no new release date until the strike is over. They shutdown the entire production and won't be restarting until it is over.

https://tvline.com/news/daredevil-born-again-reboot-title-change-controversy-1235045722/

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Sep 20, 2023

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Well I’m glad to hear that it’s mostly continuing from the Netflix stuff but I don’t think they are bringing back any of the supporting characters at all, right? Or at least not those actors?

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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FlamingLiberal posted:

Well I’m glad to hear that it’s mostly continuing from the Netflix stuff but I don’t think they are bringing back any of the supporting characters at all, right? Or at least not those actors?

They recast Vanessa because the original actress was already booked.

Foggy and Karen have not been announced or mentioned at all, so it is assumed that their characters aren't involved. They haven't officially confirmed anything one way or the other, but they have announced every other person who was returning.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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One theory about them is a possibly major spoiler:

There are leaked set photos of Daredevil next to a sign that reads "March 15, 2020" and the assumption is that Foggy and Karen were snapped and there will be a twist reveal that part of the show takes place in the past.

The guess is that they are either using the snap to write them out of the story or there will be a time jump and the second half of the series will be set in modern day and they will come back after the snap. This will also allow a time jump to Fisk being the Mayor of NYC and amassing his criminal empire during the snap by taking over the void left by snapped criminals and vacant real estate/businesses.


Only the set photo part is 100% confirmed. The rest is just speculation based on leaks and other photos.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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That could be interesting

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
I agree, thats a great idea. I really want to see more stuff dealing with the snap, its aftermath, and trying to make sense of it. They have done a good bit of that with the unsnap, and we have seen a lot of POV of those who got snapped, but not a lot of those trying to figure out what happened. Also, I know its unlikely/impossible given the timing and Renner's injury, but it would have been cool to see some Daredevil vs. Ronin stuff with Matt tracking down leads and info only for Ronin to kill the guy before Matt can interrogate him. This also makes me wonder if we will get more city level characters into the MCU so they can just show up later on as having already existed (looking at you Squirrel Girl)

Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
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LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

One theory about them is a possibly major spoiler:

There are leaked set photos of Daredevil next to a sign that reads "March 15, 2020" and the assumption is that Foggy and Karen were snapped and there will be a twist reveal that part of the show takes place in the past.

The guess is that they are either using the snap to write them out of the story or there will be a time jump and the second half of the series will be set in modern day and they will come back after the snap. This will also allow a time jump to Fisk being the Mayor of NYC and amassing his criminal empire during the snap by taking over the void left by snapped criminals and vacant real estate/businesses.


Only the set photo part is 100% confirmed. The rest is just speculation based on leaks and other photos.

I really hope so. I've stated often, and at length, that my dream Daredevil project would have been set during the Snap, with Kingpin being the ruthless strongman that NYC *needed* to hold things together. Brutal, dictatorial, but at the same time being the only thing that stops the city falling into absolute chaos. Daredevil would also be trying to keep the city together, and to kerb Fisk's excesses, but knowing at the same time he can only try to rein him in and can't topple him because he too can see how much worse it would be without him. You'd have all the drama and chaos of a world during the Snap, which someone has to properly explore at some point, but with all the moral quandries of fighting an enemy that you paradoxically must not defeat.

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

Is DD still dating She-Hulk, or was that a K.E.V.I.N. thing? Asking the important questions here, people :colbert:

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Rappaport posted:

Is DD still dating She-Hulk, or was that a K.E.V.I.N. thing? Asking the important questions here, people :colbert:

They are just FB's going forward I bet

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005
Have the said anything about She-Hulk season 2? Peopled seemed to not like it very much, so it's possible they want to try and merge the two series, somewhat, and make She-Hulk the sidekick that Foggy and Karen used to be.

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo
people loved it

Chuds hated it

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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ShowTime posted:

Have the said anything about She-Hulk season 2? Peopled seemed to not like it very much, so it's possible they want to try and merge the two series, somewhat, and make She-Hulk the sidekick that Foggy and Karen used to be.
They haven’t announced Season 2s for any shows other than the soon to be released Loki and What If

I believe there was a report that the success or failure of The Marvels is going to influence whether we get another Ms Marvel season or not

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Even if they don't make a She Hulk season 2, they absolutely will not make her the sidekick in the show of another character who showed up as a cameo in her show. They'd get eviscerated trying to do that I think, in a way that would actually seem quite bad PR wise.

I think they're in full on rethink mode right now, already regretting some of the commitments they made in the early days of the Disney + stuff so are gunshy about committing to anything else as it is.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Yeah they're clearly trying to backtrack on their Disney+ efforts (plus there's a writer and actor strike) so any shows besides what's already in the pipeline is real unlikely imo

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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Rarity posted:

Yeah they're clearly trying to backtrack on their Disney+ efforts (plus there's a writer and actor strike) so any shows besides what's already in the pipeline is real unlikely imo

You're definitely right and I wouldn't expect any new D+ series announced anytime soon.

Disney's most recent financial statement and business plan basically said they are:

- Spending $60 billion on theme parks and cruises over the next 10 years.
- Looking into getting rid of broadcast TV (ABC specifically, and potentially spinning off ESPN into its own company)
- Still losing lots of money on streaming.

So, they are most likely going to cut costs on streaming by slowing down releases, spreading out what they already have in the can, and being very selective on what they greenlight for exclusive Disney+ content (unless it is very cheap).

Apparently, they want to focus on theme parks, cruises, and movies.

And they want to ditch expensive streaming content, the Metaverse (they had previously pledged to spend $10 billion on metaverse content under the previous CEO, lmao), and (non-sports) broadcast TV.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Wow, Disney adults won out in the end? Who’d have guessed a theme park embarrassing to anyone fully matured was the real golden egg

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

Sandwolf posted:

Wow, Disney adults won out in the end? Who’d have guessed a theme park embarrassing to anyone fully matured was the real golden egg

I have one friend couple who keeps pushing to do a Disney cruise with me and my partner, none of us have kids. Why the hell would I want to go on a Disney themed cruise full of children, everything about that feels awkward and creepy.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Sandwolf posted:

Wow, Disney adults won out in the end? Who’d have guessed a theme park embarrassing to anyone fully matured was the real golden egg

The average person is going to see a movie once, maybe twice, in theaters. The average person at a Disney park or cruise is spending thousands of dollars minimum. Yes the parks and cruises might have more overhead than the movie studio at this point (maybe?) but they're also getting thousands of customers every single day of the year.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Disney theme park fanatics freak me out and there are way too many of them.

But compare that investment to Secret Invasion.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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Sandwolf posted:

Wow, Disney adults won out in the end? Who’d have guessed a theme park embarrassing to anyone fully matured was the real golden egg

Disney theme parks and cruises generate over 1/3 of all gross revenue for the company and close to half of the entire company's net profit.

They are enormously profitable and Disney World/Disney Cruises are all basically booked to capacity for years out.

Everything else they do (except movies/merchandising for movies) is dwarfed by the parks.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Sep 20, 2023

Xealot
Nov 25, 2002

Showdown in the Galaxy Era.

socialsecurity posted:

I have one friend couple who keeps pushing to do a Disney cruise with me and my partner, none of us have kids. Why the hell would I want to go on a Disney themed cruise full of children, everything about that feels awkward and creepy.

Hard no, absolutely.

I actually really like the parks, live not far from Disneyland so it's a thing some friends and I will do every so often. But if Disneyland was a boat I was stuck on for several days with a couple thousand children, I'd lose my loving mind.

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005
The Disney couple I know has named all 3 of their kids after Disney characters. Disney people are absolute fanatics.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Disney banks a good portion of the money that people spend when they go to the Orlando parks because they are on their own land. So the real big spenders will stay at a Disney hotel, go to the parks, go to Disney restaurants, buy Disney merch, etc

Mouth Ze Dong
Jan 2, 2005

Aint no thing like me, 'cept me.
Disney World is cool and you're all envious of its monorail


Adults like me who had traumatic childhoods and are still in codependent relationships due to unprocessed trauma loving LOVE disney world cause its the only week of the year when everyone is (relatively) happy.

And that's priceless

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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Xealot posted:

Hard no, absolutely.

I actually really like the parks, live not far from Disneyland so it's a thing some friends and I will do every so often. But if Disneyland was a boat I was stuck on for several days with a couple thousand children, I'd lose my loving mind.

I have not been on a Disney cruise, but from what I understand, the appeal is that it is basically a massive 2-mile long piece of the Vegas strip on the water and you can get drunk, go to a water park, eat, sleep, see a show, and watch movies without ever being stuck with kids because they are effectively babysat 24/7.

(You are also paying 2x the already overpriced cost of a trip to Vegas to do it on the ocean with Mickey Mouse)

It's basically an all-inclusive resort, but you get to go to a tourist trap in Costa Rica for 2 hours halfway through.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

I have not been on a Disney cruise, but from what I understand, the appeal is that it is basically a massive 2-mile long piece of the Vegas strip on the water and you can get drunk, go to a water park, eat, sleep, see a show, and watch movies without ever being stuck with kids because they are effectively babysat 24/7.

(You are also paying 2x the already overpriced cost of a trip to Vegas to do it on the ocean with Mickey Mouse)

It's basically an all-inclusive resort, but you get to go to a tourist trap in Costa Rica for 2 hours halfway through.

But there's no casino I checked, if there were slots I'd be on board, hell make them Marvel themed or whatever I don't care, you could have She-Hulk break the 4th wall and tell me statistically I'm not likely to win poo poo on her slot machine.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


StrugglingHoneybun posted:

Disney World is cool and you're all envious of its monorail


Adults like me who had traumatic childhoods and are still in codependent relationships due to unprocessed trauma loving LOVE disney world cause its the only week of the year when everyone is (relatively) happy.

And that's priceless

It legitimately feels cheaper to just process the trauma idk

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Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




socialsecurity posted:

But there's no casino I checked, if there were slots I'd be on board, hell make them Marvel themed or whatever I don't care, you could have She-Hulk break the 4th wall and tell me statistically I'm not likely to win poo poo on her slot machine.

Sooner or later companies are gonna start arguing that they should be able to use their characters for advertising and branding that way again, with how many adults grew up on the characters and continue paying attention to them into adulthood.

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