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its kind of a bummer scientists and mathematicians get lumped into 'STEM people' when do I get my big STEM figgies edit: awful snipe 
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Blockade posted:its kind of a bummer scientists and mathematicians get lumped into 'STEM people' I'm actually talking about scientists and mathematicians.
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Sep 19, 2023 22:31
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Blockade posted:its kind of a bummer scientists and mathematicians get lumped into 'STEM people' Acronym solidarity, op
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Sep 19, 2023 22:40
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Mathematicians in particular seem more likely to be fellow travelers than any other academics ive worked with, anecdotally of course edit: have you ever met someone with a 'political science' background who actually read Marx? Not a synopsis or a wikipage or or whatever cheat books are out there, who was a serious student Blockade has issued a correction as of 22:47 on Sep 19, 2023 |
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Sep 19, 2023 22:41
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as a biostatistician, same
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Sep 19, 2023 22:47
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Blockade posted:Mathematicians in particular seem more likely to be fellow travelers than any other academics ive worked with, anecdotally of course As someone with a political science background: most of us were just planning on going to law school or business school.
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Sep 19, 2023 23:08
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Grouping disciplines by content and methodology is wrong. They should be grouped by how much money they make.
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Do I mean research funding? Income earned by individuals? Great questions, and I look forward to the answer
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Grouping disciplines by content and methodology is wrong. They should be grouped by how much money they make. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbU4VRs2rro always relevant
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Sep 20, 2023 00:38
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Grouping disciplines by content and methodology is wrong. They should be grouped by how much money they make. Actually I think they should be ranked by how much money they give me, personally
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Epic High Five posted:Actually I think they should be ranked by how much money they give me, personally Yo wassup college board didn't realize you posted here
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Blockade posted:its kind of a bummer scientists and mathematicians get lumped into 'STEM people' YAAS
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Sep 20, 2023 00:50
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That's what you queers say right, YAAS? Look just buy my goddamn mayo.
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Sep 20, 2023 00:51
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You know who else was into academic unions? The guy who created the atomic bomb!
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Panfilo posted:The pop history take has always been to blame the UAW for simply getting too greedy unpossible
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Sep 20, 2023 00:54
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Blockade posted:have you ever met someone with a 'political science' background who actually read Marx? Not a synopsis or a wikipage or or whatever cheat books are out there, who was a serious student iirc i learned on this here forum that the american discipline of political science was invented to steer scholarship away from marx specifically
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Animal-Mother posted:iirc i learned on this here forum that the american discipline of political science was invented to steer scholarship away from marx specifically poli sci, business and econ are like the big three in the right wing extremely mad that there's a "leftist" bias in colleges (there wasn't).
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Blockade posted:its kind of a bummer scientists and mathematicians get lumped into 'STEM people' perfect grilled cheese for keepin it on the DL? the gettin'strangewich
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ClassActionFursuit posted:Sorry got back to this late but my dad was UAW and believe me when I say I understand your position. I like that the union is finally actually being a union again and I want it to succeed here and and in the future but I think it's probably a lost cause in that the US auto industry is more or less a lost cause. You know what else was considered a lost cause for a long time? States Rights, owning people and unbridled racism. Yet somehow, here we are in hellworld. I think dismantling the entire automotive industry and replacing it with bikes and public transportation is the right solution, but I sure think that giving unionising as many shots as possible until then is worth it. Anyway, over here in Denmark, the academics unions are mildly sceptical about time sheets, except in universities, where they're pushing hard for them.
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Animal-Mother posted:iirc i learned on this here forum that the american discipline of political science was invented to steer scholarship away from marx specifically The one guy I knew in college who majored in political science had switched to it from sociology because the latter had to many socialists.
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Contrariwise, my daughter wanted to go into politics and save the world, met some actual political science majors, and fled as if Matt Gaetz were chasing her. She wound up a school social worker.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Contrariwise, my daughter wanted to go into politics and save the world, met some actual political science majors, and fled as if Matt Gaetz were chasing her. I was nominated for a scholarship to a business school by one of my undergrad business class professors, and actually working at the business school (I was videotaping panel discussions) convinced me that those people are loving sociopaths.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Contrariwise, my daughter wanted to go into politics and save the world, met some actual political science majors, and fled as if Matt Gaetz were chasing her. i went into political science specifically because i wanted to change the world and stayed because i realized too late that was the wrong major for it. at least i do something somewhat useful in the public sector now instead of generating surplus value for mr. businessman mcmoneybags so that is a personal half win.
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Animal-Mother posted:iirc i learned on this here forum that the american discipline of political science was invented to steer scholarship away from marx specifically I’ve always wondered if the outsized influence of ideas from the New Criticism school (John Crowe Ransom, Cleanth Brooks, etc) on English pedagogy was similarly motivated (it being a non-materialist/historical approach to studying literature) “what is the symbolism of the color green in the great gatsby”, for example From the ‘Criticisms’ section of the Wikipedia entry for New Criticism: quote:It was frequently alleged that the New Criticism treated literary texts as autonomous and divorced from historical context, and that its practitioners were "uninterested in the human meaning, the social function and effect of literature." could simply be that it’s a simpler approach to teaching literature, though. Orbis Tertius has issued a correction as of 00:17 on Sep 21, 2023 |
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Sep 20, 2023 23:10
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Peggotty posted:The one guy I knew in college who majored in political science had switched to it from sociology because the latter had to many socialists. Did he... Did he confuse the terms sociology and socialism?
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A lot of sociology students are left of center, at least for America It's basically them, social work, gender studies and the black studies that'll reliably fill out a college town's Dem caucus, DSA, and union as appropriate
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I would imagine it's because social work is usually about helping others, too left for most people
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You can make a fairly decent argument that Marxist thought is sociology, applied as a practical science, to its practicioners' own circumstances. Plenty of "whoa let's not draw any conclusions, just fill tables for actuaries" or "actually this is just about primitives and underclasses and the delusions they conjure, we're all free rational intellects here!" out there, but it's not at all surprising that there's a nontrivial bleed into decent ways of looking at the world.
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It’s also the first program or study right wingers demand be discontinued at a college or university because it’s tainting young minds with COMMUNISM and CULTURAL MARXISM and isn’t a real education
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It's because they see "soci" and short circuit. They do a similar thing with liberal arts
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I had one sociology course in college, and it was taught by a Marxist, and now I am a Marxist too. https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/1280994100397764608
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Political economy needed to be separated into political science and economics. Philosophy needed to grow up into science, sorry.
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Tewdrig posted:I had one sociology course in college, and it was taught by a Marxist, and now I am a Marxist too. sociology was a great but very depressing class, everyone should have to take it
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hawowanlawow posted:sociology was a great but very depressing class, everyone should have to take it I took it and the dude teaching it taught us the fukken Zimbardo broken window experiment like it was inarguable fact lmao
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Every person should be forced at watergunpoint to take a class in formal logic, gender studies 101, and Marxism 99
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Saraiguma posted:all the new wawas have charging stations but they're 100% tesla chargers so lol Thought that Tesla had to make charging stations compatible with other EVs
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The Chairman posted:not really worse, just different, which was annoying because the rest of the US market had standardized on CCS and the Tesla port standard was closed and proprietary so nobody else could use it even if they wanted to Ah already asked and answered
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Blockade posted:Mathematicians in particular seem more likely to be fellow travelers than any other academics ive worked with, anecdotally of course I mean yeah? Me? But it wasn't part of the curriculum lol Ham Equity posted:As someone with a political science background: most of us were just planning on going to law school or business school. Also true
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I tell people I read Marx, jokes on them it was just the little Communist Manifesto, which anyone could knock out in the timespan of a decent shite
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