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I really wish I liked Bozja but everything about that zone viscerally repels me. It's so intensely ugly. The writing is about 30x more  than it needs to be. And mechanically, while it is more refined than Eureka, I think I actually prefer the more obtuse Eureka style.
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Bozja had a lot of good individual characters, as others have said, but the overall story was…lackluster. But I did like the idea of telling character stories through fates as you progressed through the zones.
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Music is pretty killer too, though that's pretty much a given. I could hang around in Gangos for ages.
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HPanda posted:But it has to be fully random, like we’re just walking through the Void and run into him. Just for the sheer exasperation from Diabolos thinking we must be stalking him at this point. “I’M NOT EVEN DOING ANYTHING!” So you're saying he should be the trash pull between boss 2 and boss 3.
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honestly I'm interested in the big solo duty that'll happen in probsbly 6.55. they've always been cool events for me even if, like, the 3.55 one isn't mechanically interesting. 4.55 has some flair, 5.55 was a big cool moment, and turning steps of faith into one for ARR is a cool way to bring everyone together before heavensward.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I had the window open still so I got screenshots: Official page launch, by the way. The most promising thing about this to me, at this early stage with very little information: That's not D&D's dice set. (it's Lancer's, actually, among others.) So whatever we're looking at, it's not just a '5e compatible' cash grab. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Sep 21, 2023 |
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the site also lists 'ability markers' as included. praying you actually do have to roll to run out of bad
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I think my favorite part of Bozja was the trippy as gently caress solo duty in the unlock quest
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I think the starter box doesn't even come with the full player/gamemaster books which will be out at a later date
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yeah you can see the books and they seem more like boardgame-sized instruction manuals.
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FuturePastNow posted:I think my favorite part of Bozja was the trippy as gently caress solo duty in the unlock quest Using the music from The Burn really helped sell the Inception-like visuals.
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Endorph posted:the site also lists 'ability markers' as included. praying you actually do have to roll to run out of bad You can see what I think is that in the whole screenshot, too; those orange bars could only be column AoEs, right? That might be the best clue for how this plays; appropriately to the game, it seems like it might have a lot more of a focus on positioning and physically getting out of AoEs. Which is neat, is there a TTRPG that focuses on that stuff as a primary element?
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it's hard to say without knowing exactly how the game materializes, but there's a good number of indie titles that utilize grids in interesting ways. for example Summon Skate has you play as monster-fighting figure skaters and you skate shapes to activate abilities: then there's more traditional combat grid games which use Lines, Blast, and Burst effects along with different terrain effects. the upcoming Gubat Banwa rpg is a good example https://twitter.com/playgubatbanwa/status/1694352874808168748
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Cleretic posted:Official page launch, by the way. That's a good point
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I wouldn't have expected a Japanese TTRPG to be that derivative of D&D in the first place, that's mostly a western thing
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i will say that the various SE board games have been pretty buhhh and really just coast on brand recognition to me so this is pretty "wait and see" for me currently, but it seems interesting if nothing else.
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I wonder if the books will be canon lore
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEsQ18U-e1g
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Waffleman_ posted:I wouldn't have expected a Japanese TTRPG to be that derivative of D&D in the first place, that's mostly a western thing I mean tbf Final Fantasy is derivative of D&D so it would at least make some sense.
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Countblanc posted:it's hard to say without knowing exactly how the game materializes, but there's a good number of indie titles that utilize grids in interesting ways. for example Summon Skate has you play as monster-fighting figure skaters and you skate shapes to activate abilities: these both sound badass thanks for sharing
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Waffleman_ posted:I wouldn't have expected a Japanese TTRPG to be that derivative of D&D in the first place, that's mostly a western thing I mean Final Fantasy 1 was derivative of D&D.
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Final Fantasy has Mind Flayers, just like Baldur's Gate 3.
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Final Fantasy 1 is so based off of Advanced Dungeons and Dragons that some of the sprites are traced from the Monster Manual iirc.
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I'm going to buy and play this terrible TTRPG so hard.
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"Look at all the sweet bosses we've added in Endwalker's patches! Also, listen to this sick remix of FFIX's Festival of the Hunt that people allergic to PvP never get to hear." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9XxAMYjauQ
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it makes zero sense to me that they introduced variant dungeons/criterion dungeons and are making three of them without tying one of the relic steps to one. you can solve three problems at once! the "not enough content" problem, the "relic grinds are too easy" problem, and the "criterion/criterion savage aren't rewarding enough" problem by adding relic doodads to variant, more to criterion, and the most to criterion savage. criterion clears don't even reward causality tomes!! this would additionally add longevity to criterion dungeons which they desperately need since you're just in there until you get a mount! (or just drop 20m gil on the mount, it's not like gil is needed for anything!) gently caress they could've just put some relic doodads in orthos and i'd be fine with that. orthos also needs motivation & longevity since it's an inferior leveling method compared to StQ content. Frida Call Me fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Sep 21, 2023 |
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they seem desperately afraid of affecting actual gear progression. relics don't matter because they were never bis and only for people with brain worms or who liked the glams or catchup
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Oneiros posted:they seem desperately afraid of affecting actual gear progression. relics don't matter because they were never bis and only for people with brain worms or who liked the glams or catchup they really do and it's extremely dumb since the amount of savage clears you need to gear up one job for each role each tier is bordering on s-rank achievements insanity. relics are BIS but typically only for ultimates (and also in eureka pre-physeos, for the same reason: selectable substats at specific ilvl sync points)
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Savage tier gearing really depends on how you do the content. If you are in a static, getting one job geared up is relatively easy. PF is a different matter, though.
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Tekopo posted:Savage tier gearing really depends on how you do the content. If you are in a static, getting one job geared up is relatively easy. PF is a different matter, though. gonna be very hard to convince a static to do enough clears to get one melee, one physranged, one caster, one healer, and one tank BIS for 8 people. in prior expacs gearing up several roles wasn't as needed since the big time-sink forays were gear agnostic. but now that criterion is ilvl sync'd to higher than the savage tier's rewards, if you want to be flexible for small party savage content you need to gear up one of each role! Frida Call Me fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Sep 21, 2023 |
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Frida Call Me posted:gonna be very hard to convince a static to do enough clears to get one melee, one physranged, one caster, one healer, and one tank BIS for 8 people. Or just, two roles. You really don't need one of each. Also ilvl Sync is the "maximimum" you can be in a given piece of content, not the requirement to do that content. Edit: Variant and Criterion still should have been tied into the relic weapons somehow, or have some way to get tomestone gear upgrade items.
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eh, i've done savage pf and static this expansion and...eh bis barely matters except for the most annoying of stats, skill/spell speed. this tier especially dps checks were practically nonexistent i have cut back on reclears tho and the most impact that has had is...i don't volunteer to sub because my gear on alt jobs is still last-tier. great job, cbu3
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Lord_Magmar posted:Or just, two roles. You really don't need one of each. Also ilvl Sync is the "maximimum" you can be in a given piece of content, not the requirement to do that content. it's certainly not required but it absolutely makes it smoother. both rear end and AMR have difficult mechanics you can outright skip with a somewhat clean run with folks in BIS, even if they're suboptimal jobs (like non-SAM, non-BLM lol) light party balance is blatantly in favor of selfish dps jobs since rdps jobs have half as many people to apply buffs. to they really should've added compensation to some jobs to make up for this, but nope you're just straight-up worse if you bring a physranged instead of a BLM or a DRG/NIN over a SAM. Frida Call Me fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Sep 21, 2023 |
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Tomestones encourage roulettes that keep content moving for newer players, which is important for the game. Variant+ and Orthos encourage mindlessly spamming out runs of max level content optimized for fastest gain. Not surprising they went with the first one.
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Khizan posted:Tomestones encourage roulettes that keep content moving for newer players, which is important for the game. Variant+ and Orthos encourage mindlessly spamming out runs of max level content optimized for fastest gain. Not surprising they went with the first one. And they managed to thread this needle in Shadowbringers by having 2 options for the grind, you could have done both roulettes and Variant/Deep Dungeon as options. As it is, the Tomestones yes, give a lot of options in Roulette, but that doesn't necessarily make them interesting, and loads of stuff already incentivise roulettes. Personally, my issue is more that they didn't have say, the Nier Automata raids be an option for one of the steps, but that's mostly because I'd like to do fun alliance raids in roulettes and not boring ones.
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Khizan posted:Tomestones encourage roulettes that keep content moving for newer players, which is important for the game. Variant+ and Orthos encourage mindlessly spamming out runs of max level content optimized for fastest gain. Not surprising they went with the first one. criterion clears are absurdly low. less than 6% of XIVcollect users have beaten rear end, less than 2% have beaten AMR. i think it's important for them to drive players to actually attempt this content *and* to provide reasons for players to continue doing it in the form of buffed rewards, gear advancement, or relic advancement. tomestone relics don't encourage roulettes, they encourage hunt trains as you can acquire many times more tomestones per hour invested in that way.
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i'd love to run more savage but i'm not gonna spend the millions of gil per job to meet the minimum ilv restrictions or spend the time farming rng, weekly locked gear, or the months required for capped tomes, to actually do so on alt jobs
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Frida Call Me posted:gonna be very hard to convince a static to do enough clears to get one melee, one physranged, one caster, one healer, and one tank BIS for 8 people. Edit: Also the revised gearing changes make it even easier this time around to gear for savage when compared to the first two tiers of Panda, especially if your job requires a chest for BIS EDIT: I just noticed you mentioned one job per role, missed that, so my bad. Tekopo fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Sep 21, 2023 |
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Cleretic posted:Official page launch, by the way. Honestly, I think I'd have preferred a 5e or Pathfinder cash grab, especially Pathfinder, if only because it'd be easier to slot in and use. I mean, yeah, gently caress WotC, but I'd definitely have an easier time getting a 5e game going than a new system, and I would kill to be able to play my Roegadude Gunbreaker in a Pathfinder Society game.
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Frida Call Me posted:light party balance is blatantly in favor of selfish dps jobs since rdps jobs have half as many people to apply buffs. to they really should've added compensation to some jobs to make up for this, but nope you're just straight-up worse if you bring a physranged instead of a BLM or a DRG/NIN over a SAM. theres actually a damage buff in criterion for buff jobs but its not tuned high enough you are definitely correct that you do get doubled owned if you're running a phys ranged or a non-blm caster just because the damage gap is significant
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