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Bad news for Ukraine - Western establishment media (Bloomberg) continues to push the narrative that Ukraine's counteroffensive is making "slow progress to date" and "which have struggled to advance against Russian defensive lines". https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-22/ukraine-s-zelenskiy-vows-to-keep-on-fighting-in-autumn-winter Ukraine’s Zelenskiy Vows to Keep on Fighting in Autumn, Winter By Peggy Collins September 22, 2023 at 2:00 AM UTC Ukraine will continue its counteroffensive through the autumn and into the winter, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said, vowing to keep the pressure up on Russian forces despite slow progress to date. “We will do everything not to stop during difficult days in autumn with not good weather, and in winter,” Zelenskiy told editors from US news media after a day of meetings on Capitol Hill and the White House. Ukraine’s forces, which have struggled to advance against Russian defensive lines since the latest campaign began in early June, will “de-occupy two more cities,” he said, but he didn’t identify them. He also said his troops will take Bakhmut, a town in the east that fell to Russia after months of bloody fighting earlier this year. He said Ukraine has learned the lesson of last year, when it paused most offensive operations for months after retaking large chunks of territory. Russia used that break to restore its forces and build the extensive defensive lines that have proved so challenging to Kyiv’s troops this year. “I know what Putin wants,” he said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. “He needs a pause because he really lost people.” Zelenskiy said he came away from his meetings in Washington optimistic about continued US support, despite rising calls from Republicans in Congress to limit the aid. In their private meeting Thursday, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy “said that they will be on our side,” Zelenskiy said. Those comments echoed public statements from the White House Thursday, which sought to show that it remains committed to supporting Ukraine’s war effort for as long as it takes. The administration is requesting $24 billion more in aid at present. Zelenskiy also said he’s optimistic that the US will ultimately provide the long-range missiles his government has sought to strike targets deeper in Russian-held territory. The administration has said it’s considering the request but hasn’t approved shipping the weapons.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:We tend to emphasize American irregulars pulling superior tactics like hiding behind trees, even though they couldn't hold any ground and ran when the British pressed them, because it's more embarrassing to have to deal with how many times the continental army got beat up. I remember in public school the Revolutionary War module was all Lexington & Concord then Bunker Hill, then something something Delaware happened and something something Yorktown. They were also going easy on us because they didn't want any hard feelings after the war.
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Sep 22, 2023 06:32
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gradenko_2000 posted:so Ukraine is our close ally and they're fighting an existential war and we must do Whatever It Takes Every last one of these people would cry and complain about the cost of universal healthcare as if it was new spending. They don't care, they just want to bathe in blood
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Sep 22, 2023 06:37
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uzi with bayonet would kill at least one headcrab when you're stuck reloading
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Sep 22, 2023 06:41
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Sub machine guns make very good close quarters weapons and trench sweepers, but nobody is brave enough to bring back the Soviet doctrine of whole companies armed with PPShs
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Sep 22, 2023 07:12
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Endman posted:Sub machine guns make very good close quarters weapons and trench sweepers, but nobody is brave enough to bring back the Soviet doctrine of whole companies armed with PPShs https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1704343169783976356
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Sep 22, 2023 07:15
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hell yeah
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Sep 22, 2023 07:18
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Endman posted:Sub machine guns make very good close quarters weapons and trench sweepers, but nobody is brave enough to bring back the Soviet doctrine of whole companies armed with PPShs The soviets never gave up doing that, the ak is functionally a goku level ppsh. And they were right
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Regarde Aduck posted:i played a really bad hl mod about the revolutionary war and that game said the brown bess was a piece of poo poo so i'm not sure about any of this FREEDOM
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Sep 22, 2023 08:02
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BillsPhoenix posted:I can phrase this better. If you're still trying to follow this I'd like to offer one more way to look at the events that unfolded over the last few decades. To begin with, Ukraine is a very divided country. The east and west do not agree on much politically, and the sizeable Russian ethnic minority in Ukraine is concentrated almost entirely in the south and east. As a point of comparison ethnic Russians are comparable in both geographic concentration and as a percentage of the population to the American Black population. So any time you read about suppressing Russian language or culture in Ukraine remember that maps pretty closely to Jim Crow laws in the US. If you aren't American I'm sure your country has some other terrible legacy of ethnic oppression. To give an example of how politically divided Ukraine is, check out the election map from the 2004 presidential election  and the 2010 election  Notice a theme? In both elections Yanukovych was the preferred candidate of eastern Ukraine, and in both elections Yanukovych won. A blitz of western aligned NGOs got the 2004 election results overturned though, so the preferred candidate of eastern Ukraine ended up losing that one. Western Ukrainians tried to do the same thing in 2010 but couldnt get enough support to overthrow a second election, at least not initially. Instead it took them four years before they could launch a coup to remove Yanukovych, the democratically elected president with massive popular support in eastern Ukraine. So, as western Ukraine celebrated in the streets at the violent overthrow of Yanukovych, the people of eastern Ukraine, who had overwhelmingly voted for Yanukovych three times and watched western Ukraine undermine his win every time, probably suspected that maybe Ukraine wasnt a democracy. Also, Crimea never particularly wanted to be part of Ukraine, it was their second choice during the collapse of the Soviet Union (their first choice was to remain an autonomous state in a new Russian led federation). Post Soviet collapse Crimea even tried to carry on as an autonomous state, with their own president and congress, until Ukraine forcibly disbanded their autonomous government in 1995. This is an event in living memory for many who live there So in 2014 Crimea and the Donbas republics defected. Russia did not invade them or steal territory. Ukraine egregiously violated the principles of democracy and in response the people who repeatedly had their democratic rights violated left. When the defections happened Ukraine scrambled for a military response. The territorial defense forces in Crimea and the Donbas mostly refused to fight for Ukraine because they sympathized with the people and the defections were relatively bloodless, initially. Ukraine eventually managed to find some 'ideologically committed' soldiers to go try and recapture the Donbas and Russia responded with a show of force to bring Ukraine to the negotiating table to sign the Minsk Agreement. Those same 'ideologically committed' soldiers would ignore the Minsk Agreement and continue bombing the Donbas. Zelensky campaigned on a peace platform. He pledged to end the frozen conflict and normalize relations with Russia at any cost, and he was elected in an absolute landslide based on that platform, including huge support in the east. Shortly after his election he tried to rein in the ideological soldiers who were still fighting in the Donbas, and they essentially told him to go gently caress himself and continued shelling the republics. Over time, Zelensky moved away from his peace and reconciliation platform and began sounding out anti-Russian alliances while becoming increasingly belligerent over the fate of the Donbas republics and Crimea. Also over the years since the Maidan coup Ukraine had been increasingly lovely towards its ethnic Russian population. Finally, Zelensky unilaterally withdrew from the Minsk Agreement on February 21st, 2022, calling them unworkable and leaving the republics without even the notion of a framework for rapprochement or reintegration short of being forcibly invaded by Ukraine. Russia then invaded on February 24th, 2022, with a fairly limited strike in line with forcing Ukraine back to the negotiating table rather than an American style shock and awe total war. Feel free to look for the hooks of western policy in that sequence of events, but even without trying to blame it on the west I think theres a reasonable case to be made that the war is at least partially Ukraine's fault. A Ukraine that actually respected democracy, multiculturalism, or the rule of law probably wouldn't be in this position.
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Sep 22, 2023 08:07
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The perfect girl doesn't exi-
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Sep 22, 2023 08:15
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the ballerina john wick spinoff lookin good
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Sep 22, 2023 08:16
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Nix Panicus posted:Zelensky campaigned on a peace platform. He pledged to end the frozen conflict and normalize relations with Russia at any cost, and he was elected in an absolute landslide based on that platform, including huge support in the east. Shortly after his election he tried to rein in the ideological soldiers who were still fighting in the Donbas, and they essentially told him to go gently caress himself and continued shelling the republics. original video here: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2365247017058994
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Sep 22, 2023 08:27
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This was 12 year old me after watching saving private ryan. Just running down the hallway and blasting fools.
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Sep 22, 2023 08:30
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girls are so hot dude
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Sep 22, 2023 08:45
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Sy Hersh is a dumb dumb old man. Sorry for you all to find out this way. Did you know he didn't agree what's going on in Syria? Shameful.
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Sep 22, 2023 08:52
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She's flagging everyone in the room, and her finger looks like its inside the trigger guard. Just terrible.
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Sep 22, 2023 08:53
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Mantis42 posted:girls are so hot dude yeah?
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Sep 22, 2023 08:53
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Her knees are too Russian for me.
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Sep 22, 2023 09:10
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I really was wondering what they are putting in young russian girl's heads today. Time to go to the front lines little girl. Your training is complete.
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Sep 22, 2023 09:30
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This is the real origin story for gun kata
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Sep 22, 2023 09:43
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girls are for losers and dorks warhammer is where its at.
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Sep 22, 2023 09:44
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while the us developed an overengineered boondoggle rifle the russians just used a gun ballerina Al-Saqr posted:girls are for losers and dorks warhammer is where its at. Al-Saqr posted:Guys... i did it... i accomplished the impossible... i have scaled a mountain no other warhammer player has scaled before... 
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Cerebral Bore posted:while the us developed an overengineered boondoggle rifle the russians just used a gun ballerina the girl is a loser and he will brutally annihilate her in a 500pt match
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Sep 22, 2023 10:14
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https://x.com/GunterFehlinger/status/1705152751150227648?s=20 Gunther is gonna pull a hammy if he doesn't pace himself.
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Bad news for Ukraine - NATO may have screwed up when training Ukraine's counteroffensive units Ukraine’s forces say NATO trained them for wrong fight BY JAMIE DETTMER SEPTEMBER 22, 2023 4:00 AM CET 6 MINUTES READ Did NATO screw up when training Ukraine’s counteroffensive units? Did it train them for the wrong battlefield? These questions are at the heart of a raging debate about why, after three months of grueling fighting, the counteroffensive in southeast Ukraine hasn’t yet managed to punch through to the Sea of Azov, cutting off the so-called land bridge that connects annexed Crimea with southern Ukrainian territories occupied by Russia. With progress painstakingly slow on the Zaporizhzhia front — the main axis of three lines of attack — there’s been plenty of second-guessing and armchair generalship going on, apportioning blame, identifying missteps or highlighting things that could have been done better. But among them, the most intriguing thinking is coming from soldiers on Ukraine’s front lines, or those who have newly returned, and they fault NATO for preparing them for a different fight. Of course, Ukraine has been encountering criticism of its own in recent weeks, with Western military officials faulting forces for failing to observe the combined warfare tactics taught by NATO instructors earlier this year. The most notable reprimand was contained in July’s leaked battlefield assessment by Germany’s Bundeswehr, which complained the Ukrainian military was failing to implement NATO training, and criticized commanders for splitting their Western-trained brigades into small units of just 10 to 30 soldiers to attack enemy positions. But some front-line veterans are now turning this criticism on its head, saying NATO prepared them for the wrong kind of war, and that the training they received was a mixed bag, and taken from manuals that weren’t adjusted for the realities on the ground in Ukraine. According to them, there was a clear schism between theory and practice, a disconnect that has cost lives. Among the critics of NATO’s training is 10-year U.S. army national guard veteran Ryan O’Leary, who was on tours in Afghanistan and Iraq, and joined Ukraine’s foreign legion within days of Russia’s invasion. On arrival, he was almost immediately dispatched with other American and British volunteers to block Russian units from entering Ukraine’s capital from the north. O’Leary argues the training for new brigades would have been better if “taught by Ukrainians who have experienced combat here and can bring with them the hard lessons they learned, so others don’t repeat them.” It seems the training Ukrainian soldiers received was based more on what NATO forces have been most used to in recent years — counterinsurgency warfare, with some American-style “show-and-awe” thrown in. And while Ukrainians praise the drills on basic infantry tactics, reconnaissance and how to get close to the enemy unseen, as well as methods taught for storming trenches and buildings, they cite a lack of training on drone and mine awareness, explosive ordnance disposal and defensive combat. When it comes to integrating drone warfare and how to overcome enemy drones, they received scant counsel — most likely because NATO forces have not yet caught up and adapted their own infantry training to the technology. O’Leary is now a company commander in Ukraine’s 59th Motorized Brigade, which has been tasked with reconnaissance and trench clearing in the counteroffensive in the southeast. “NATO should focus on basic soldiering — weapon drills, movements, building LP/Ops [Listening Post/Observation Post], camo, small unit tactics & cohesion drills as an example,” he posted on social media. And further north, on the front lines in Kharkiv, this criticism is echoed by soldiers with the 32nd Separate Mechanized Brigade, who spoke with the Kyiv Independent. The brigade received only three weeks of NATO training in Germany, and while grateful for some of the Western drilling and kit, they complained that NATO officers didn’t understand the hard reality of warfare in Ukraine. “A NATO infantryman knows he’s supported and can advance with the confidence that there’s a high likelihood that he won’t be killed or maimed,” a soldier named Ihor said. NATO’s way of war calls for massive preparatory airstrikes, artillery barrages and demining before the infantry advances, and, of course, Ukraine’s military — without the modern warplanes, long-range missiles and demining equipment they requested — has had to fight in a very different way than what standard NATO doctrine dictates. That is why, during the first phase of the counteroffensive, Ukraine suffered substantial losses of soldiers and Western-supplied armor, as they got bogged down in some of the thickest minefields ever seen and had to switch tactics to this attritional second phase, using small infantry units to try and find ways through. Some Ukrainian combatants say the training would have gone off better if battle-experienced Ukrainian officers and non-commissioned officers with knowledge of the local geography and landscape had been integrated into the NATO training — or if there had been an added component of intense instruction in Ukraine before draftees were deployed. As a result of their lack of knowledge of the landscape, NATO trainers did not consider how much of the fighting would involve small units having to battle through thick tree lines — much like the Allied forces failed to account for northwestern France’s hedgerows after the 1944 Normandy landings. Similarly, on the Zaporizhzhia front — as well as in much of southern Ukraine — Soviet agronomists had divided the land into vast fields with oak, holly and poplar trees planted between them as windbreaks. Currently, American military analyst Michael Kofman, director of the Russia Studies Program at the Center for Naval Analyses, is one the few who still thinks there’s “a realistic possibility of Ukrainian forces breaking through Russian lines,” as “the momentum has picked up and the dynamic has somewhat changed in the last couple of weeks.” But even he cautions that war “isn’t a parlor game where one can gamble and easily predict outcomes.” Meanwhile, others are more skeptical, blaming, in part, unrealistic expectations from the get-go, as well as Western powers’ risk aversion — including the administration of United States President Joe Biden — in the provision of advanced military weaponry for the assault. On this front, Ukrainian officials point the finger at the West for their dither and delay in approving and supplying the gear they’ve requested — especially as some asks were made immediately after the invasion. They also fume at the sense of pessimism regarding the prospect of achieving the counteroffensive’s main goals. But it is clear to most military analysts and Western officials that we are now nearing the counteroffensive’s end, with little time before the weather turns. And despite a breach of Russia’s first defensive line at Robotyne at the end of August, the counteroffensive has not altered overall positions much. Speaking in Prague last week, U.S. Ambassador to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe Michael Carpenter reminded that “pretty soon, we are going to enter the rainy season and then the winter,” when military maneuver will become more difficult. “This,” he said, “is crunch time.”
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://x.com/GunterFehlinger/status/1705152751150227648?s=20 The top right sort of looks like a skiier making a jump.
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Whenever someone claims "Ukrainians aren't grateful enough" I think about that chart showing western governments have only delivered 50% of their pledged weapons to Ukraine.
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Sep 22, 2023 11:03
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Whenever someone claims "Ukrainians aren't grateful enough" I think about that chart showing western governments have only delivered 50% of their pledged weapons to Ukraine. Puzzling news about the priorities of NATO - If NATO believes Ukraine is facing genocide by the Russians and/or that Russia will be an existential threat to NATO if Russia is not stopped at Ukraine's borders, why is NATO only sending supplies to Ukraine at a lackadaisical rate and those supplies include broken Leopards?
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Sep 22, 2023 11:14
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I personally think the Ukrainians are cowards for not following NATO tactics. Why won't they do what they're told?
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Sep 22, 2023 11:18
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there are no gender discrimination when it comes to warhammer, abolish all genders, only wahrammer.
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Sep 22, 2023 11:33
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Al-Saqr posted:girls are for losers and dorks warhammer is where its at. my wife is soft and I like her
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Sep 22, 2023 11:36
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Zodium posted:my wife is soft and I like her a baneblade would destroy your wife in seconds
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Sep 22, 2023 11:48
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Regarde Aduck posted:a baneblade would destroy your wife in seconds Bad news for the credibility of Regarde Aduck - Baneblades are fictional while Zodium's wife is real.
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Sep 22, 2023 11:52
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crepeface posted:original video here: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2365247017058994 oh nice, never seen the original of this. it's outrageous that this clip never really got the spotlight
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Sep 22, 2023 11:53
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bqaneblabe is real and my friend
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Mantis42 posted:girls are so hot dude Zodium posted:my wife is soft and I like her
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