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The dress code for the Senate now requires all senators to wear an "I'm With Stupid -->" shirt.
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Jesus III posted:Saying some people look like shut in suits but not calling out Fettetman for looking like poo poo in this outfit is rich. He dresses like a slob. It is possible to dress comfortably and still look nice. Fetterman dresses like a Pennslyvanian from Pittsburgh.
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Sep 22, 2023 03:56
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the dress code thing would be a reasonable discussion to have if there were no republicans holding elected office at all
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Sep 22, 2023 04:00
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OctaMurk posted:Trash cans are an eyesore, unlike massive piles of leaky trashbags. Barbarians It's exactly the same as the idiots who complain about wind and solar farms ruining the landscape. What's the alternative, ya dinguses?
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Sep 22, 2023 04:02
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:the dress code thing would be a reasonable discussion to have if there were no republicans holding elected office at all Funny enough it's the same threshold for discussing amending/rewriting the US Constitution.
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Sep 22, 2023 04:05
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The development and passage of state recycling standards and extended producer responsibility are in the long term likely to drive federalization and standardization of waste collection, starting with recycling programs.
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Sep 22, 2023 04:24
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AtomikKrab posted:Fetterman dresses like a Pennslyvanian from Pittsburgh. Need a couple of western states to step their flannel game up ASAP. Looking at you, Oregon.
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Sep 22, 2023 04:27
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Require all senators to wear state themed cultural garb
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Sep 22, 2023 05:01
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zoux posted:What is a necktie for, though? It points at your dick, freeing up your hands for other tasks
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Sep 22, 2023 05:04
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if they lose the dress code the scolds that run the place won't be able to tut people for the way they dress any more. and if there's anything old white rich guys like it's being catty. also bright colors and wild shapes would cause a large portion of lawmakers to stroke out.
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Sep 22, 2023 05:51
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Kanos posted:I think that was exactly their point. Suits are a borderline global "this is serious businesswear for serious business people" signifier, they're not uniquely American, which is why they mentioned those other places that also wear suits. I'm a "white collar" worker who works with serious business people at the VP and C suite level and this is my typical work outfit:  I've gone on camera wearing it, too. Nobody cares unless they have a point to make about kids these days ruining everything. KillHour fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Sep 22, 2023 |
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Sep 22, 2023 05:56
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KillHour posted:I'm a "white collar" worker who works with serious business people at the VP and C suite level and this is my typical work outfit: Ehhhh...this is going to depend pretty heavily on your industry and geographic location. Some places like NYC are far more likely to expect business formal, whereas most of the west coast is fine with business casual or fully casual. Finance, banking, insurance, and a few others are also more likely to expect it than technology, O&G, etc. COVID changed the rules temporarily, and things have definitely been trending in that direction for decades, but business formal is still very much alive. Edit: not doubting your specific experience, just saying that it's not to be expected in every circumstance
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Sep 22, 2023 06:13
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Shooting Blanks posted:Ehhhh...this is going to depend pretty heavily on your industry and geographic location. Some places like NYC are far more likely to expect business formal, whereas most of the west coast is fine with business casual or fully casual. Finance, banking, insurance, and a few others are also more likely to expect it than technology, O&G, etc. I'm less saying that this is "normal" and more saying that "normal" is dumb. Wearing a pink flamingo robe doesn't interfere at all with my job of charging large companies gobs of money to give them my totally real and not at all made up opinions, so why the hell should it interfere with arguing over politics? If you need a suit to make people think what you're saying is valuable, it probably isn't. I'm not going to follow a bunch of pointless rules nobody likes because that's how some dead people did it. And neither should anyone else. KillHour fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Sep 22, 2023 |
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Sep 22, 2023 06:28
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I mean what the dress code does do is prevent Marjorie Taylor Greene from showing up in a T-shirt with Himmler on it. (but it also prevents Democrats from using the picture of that in ads)
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Sep 22, 2023 06:36
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KillHour posted:I'm less saying that this is "normal" and more saying that "normal" is dumb. Wearing a pink flamingo robe doesn't interfere at all with my job of charging large companies gobs of money to give them my totally real and not at all made up opinions, so why the hell should it interfere with arguing over politics? If you need a suit to make people think what you're saying is valuable, it probably isn't. I'm not going to follow a bunch of pointless rules nobody likes because that's how some dead people did it. And neither should anyone else. Ah, misunderstood, my bad!
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Sep 22, 2023 06:47
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Shooting Blanks posted:Ah, misunderstood, my bad! Nah, I should have been more clear about what I meant.
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Sep 22, 2023 06:53
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KillHour posted:Nah, I should have been more clear about what I meant. Hey, at least we learned what the true ending of the Sopranos was 
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Sep 22, 2023 07:17
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KillHour posted:I'm a "white collar" worker who works with serious business people at the VP and C suite level and this is my typical work outfit: I mean, sure, I'm fine with that, I personally hate wearing business formal attire. But a fair amount of places won't let you get away with wearing something like that unless you're extremely highly placed or are an independent contractor who is important enough that an 80 year old executive getting a bug up their rear end about you wearing a t-shirt to a meeting doesn't result in you losing your contract, because of the aforementioned silly expectation of serious business attire for serious business people. Try to get a sales job at a department store and show up in something like this and you'll get fired. It's pretty stupid but it's an expectation that absolutely exists.
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Sep 22, 2023 11:23
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New Clarence Thomas just dropped: more unreported flights, paid speaking gigs for the Koch’s, and being flown out to loving bohemian grove. https://twitter.com/justinelliott/status/1705150884282294310?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA https://twitter.com/justinelliott/status/1705150891756523588?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA quote:During the summit, the justice went to a private dinner for the network’s donors. Thomas has attended Koch donor events at least twice over the years, according to interviews with three former network employees and one major donor. The justice was brought in to speak, staffers said, in the hopes that such access would encourage donors to continue giving.
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Sep 22, 2023 11:39
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I love the slow drip of these.
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Sep 22, 2023 11:44
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AtomikKrab posted:Fetterman dresses like a Pennslyvanian from Pittsburgh. I've been to Pittsburgh. They have suits and not everyone dresses like a slob.
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Sep 22, 2023 12:00
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Suits are clown costumes, which is why congress should wear them.
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Sep 22, 2023 12:28
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Nenonen posted:Suits are clown costumes, which is why congress should wear them. What a bunch of clowns.
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Sep 22, 2023 12:50
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Love 2 wear clothes from the european little ice age in the 2023 south so people will take me seriously
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Sep 22, 2023 14:00
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Don't worry, Thomas had no idea that these dear friends of his would ask him to speak for any reason other than his towering intellect and knowledge of the law. He's known them for decades, of course he's happy to help them.
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Sep 22, 2023 14:25
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Thomas mis-heard someone 20 years ago, and all this time he's been trying to meet his ethical obligations by avoiding the appearance of propriety
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Sep 22, 2023 14:29
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Apparently, the DOJ thinks it has enough evidence against Menendez this time. Indictments against Menendez and his wife are officially announced and the USDA will be holding a press conference with details in 30 minutes. This is the bizarre case where Menendez may have helped a deli in New Jersey become the official Halal meat supplier for the state of Egypt in exchange for a car and trips on a yacht. Also, we don't know if this indictment includes the other story (where there is less evidence) with a different business where he allegedly received literal gold bars as bribes. https://twitter.com/SDNYnews/status/1705210541717807243 Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Sep 22, 2023 |
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Sep 22, 2023 14:33
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This whole CasualFridayGate nonsense is such an East Coast thing.
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Sep 22, 2023 14:36
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Apparently, the DOJ thinks it has enough evidence against Menendez this time. The FBI raided Menendez's house and found $480,000 in cash in various places.  Also, literal gold bars.  Menendez is the chair of the Senate Foreign Relations committee and will be forced to give up his Chairmanship. Ben Cardin (D-MD) is likely to take over as Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. Menendez will still be able to sit on the committee while he remains in the Senate.
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Sep 22, 2023 14:57
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Gold bars stamped with “Swiss bank corporation” is some Saturday morning cartoon villain poo poo
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Sep 22, 2023 15:10
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Apparently, the DOJ thinks it has enough evidence against Menendez this time. Was the earlier attempt at going after Menendez the one where SCOTUS basically said "It's not bribery unless you're photographed handing over a giant novelty check with "bribe" on the memo line", or am I thinking of a different case?
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Sep 22, 2023 15:14
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azflyboy posted:Was the earlier attempt at going after Menendez the one where SCOTUS basically said "It's not bribery unless you're photographed handing over a giant novelty check with "bribe" on the memo line", or am I thinking of a different case? That was the case against Bob McDonnell (former Governor of Virginia). Afterwards, the DOJ dropped their case against Menendez because they had proof he accepted the gifts, but no proof that he performed specific official actions for them. So the ruling was for a different case, but Menendez's original charges were dropped due to the ruling in that case. He was also acquitted of some of the charges when a jury deadlocked on his original case. Edit: Reading the indictment, this time they think they have enough proof he performed official actions in exchange for the money because his wife was dumb enough to text about it and the things he did were very obvious things he had actively get involved with to make happen and were very unlikely to be coincidences. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Sep 22, 2023 |
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Sep 22, 2023 15:17
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Thanks. I thought Menendez was somehow involved, but couldn't remember specifics.
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Sep 22, 2023 15:20
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I don't know if I should be shocked that Menendez took his one literal "get out of jail free" card and wasted it by doing almost the exact same thing again while the FBI was watching him or impressed that he did that, but had the self-restraint to wait about 6 years before trying again.
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Sep 22, 2023 15:25
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In case anyone else was wondering how a New Jersey company became "official halal meat provider of Egypt." They're the official US export to Egypt halal certifier for US made meat. I was really confused how Big Joey down at Satriale's Meat Market managed to provide the total sum of meat provisions for an entire country.
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Sep 22, 2023 15:28
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Kaal posted:This whole CasualFridayGate nonsense is such an East Coast thing. The question we should be asking is "What are they trying to distract us from by making a big deal out of this?"
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Sep 22, 2023 15:31
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the_steve posted:The question we should be asking is "What are they trying to distract us from by making a big deal out of this?" It’s not a big secret, if that’s what you’re suggesting. Republicans very clearly want to talk about anything else but their imminent shutdown of the government.
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Sep 22, 2023 15:33
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They have texts showing him sending sensitive embassy information to the Egyptian government.
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Sep 22, 2023 15:45
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James Garfield posted:I mean what the dress code does do is prevent Marjorie Taylor Greene from showing up in a T-shirt with Himmler on it.
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Here's an interesting scenario playing out in Congress. Sherrod Brown, Roger Marshall, and Dick Durbin have a bipartisan credit card reform bill called the "Credit Card Competition Act" that they attempted to add as an amendment to the NDAA this past year, but failed. Brown now says that he is open to making small changes and bringing the bill up as a stand-alone piece of legislation. There are two Republican Senators who have co-signed on to the bill and two Republican congressmen in the House. The bill is a fairly limited reform bill in scope, but could have a major impact on banks and retailers. The short version is: - Currently, the payment network and swipe fees paid by businesses are determined by the card you use. Visa cards are all charged on the Visa network and the business pays the swipe fees set by Visa to use their payment processing network when a customer uses a Visa credit card. - The bill would require credit card-issuing banks to offer a minimum of two networks for merchants processing electronic credit card transactions. It also specifically prohibits these two networks from being those with the largest market share of cards today — Visa and Mastercard. That means that they have to offer either Visa/Mastercard and another option (Discover, AmEx, any other third party processor) and let the business choose which network they use. - The idea is that by offering multiple choices and allowing the business to choose, they will inject competition into the payment processing market, businesses will always choose the one that charges them less, and without a monopoly/duopoly on the payment processing market, Visa/Mastercard will have to lower their swipe fees. Big retailers are obviously very supportive of this and big banks are obviously extremely opposed. https://twitter.com/BrendanPedersen/status/1705193849436373326 https://twitter.com/BrendanPedersen/status/1705227134795444453 This has resulted in a weird split of support where you have on the "pro-" side: - The most liberal members of the Senate. - Moderate Democrats from rural states without any major financial industry. - Very conservative members of the Senate from states with a lot of retail business, but no major financial industry. - Big retail companies like Amazon, Wal-Mart, and Target. - Small business and retailer lobbying groups. - Wall Street reform groups and on the other side, you have: - Democrats from states with large financial industries or major credit unions and regional banks. - Very conservative members from states with large financial industries (like South Dakota). - "Business-friendly" members of congress and lobbying groups. - Consumer groups who worry that limiting swipe fees will lead to companies reducing credit card rewards for consumers without major differences in prices. - Racial/Social justice groups who say that when a similar proposal happened to debit card fees in 2010, it was low-income people with checking accounts and no credit cards who were hurt the most because banks raised fees on checking accounts to make up the lost revenue. - Several airline employee unions (this seems like a completely random group to get in on opposing this, but the reason is that many credit cards offer airline miles and points that drive business to specific airlines and credit card companies have warned that they will have to cut back on rewards if the bill passes.) It's not clear what the fate of the bill looks like or how much it would impact consumers. It's also not clear what parts of the bill Sherrod Brown is open to changing to get it to pass. On the news that Brown is considering bringing the bill to the floor, several groups released statements about it: 11 Trade Associations representing major banks, credit card companies, credit unions, and the financial services industry in opposition: quote:"The financial services industry stands united in opposition to the effort by Senators Durbin and Marshall to delay funding for veterans and our military in order to gift a massive government handout to Walmart, Target, and other big-box retailers," the associations representing primarily banks and credit unions said in a joint statement Tuesday. "The Durbin-Marshall credit card routing legislation has no relevance to military or veteran spending whatsoever. We call on both Senators to promptly abandon their effort to use the Military Construction, Veterans Affairs, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act to secure government favors for big-box retailers at the expense of consumers, small businesses, and small financial institutions." OneMN a public advocacy group focusing on social and racial justice in opposition: quote:Lower interchange fees would directly affect the bottom lines of banks; banks use this revenue to enhance their services and security while simultaneously passing some of it onto consumers through rewards. Ironically, this could hurt those who've never held a credit card. A group of 1,700 businesses, from small independent businesses to Wal-Mart in support: quote:Most of what the credit card industry, banks and their surrogates have said about the Credit Card Competition Act is misleading, and much of it simply isn’t true. Here are the facts about some of the key issues regarding this bipartisan, bicameral, pro-consumer legislation that is quickly gaining support in Congress. The National Federation of Independent Businesses, a small business trade association and lobbying group, in support: quote:Competition will result in lower fees, which have increasingly cut into the razor-thin profit margins of small businesses. NFIB appreciates this important legislation, which aims to inject competition by allowing small businesses the freedom to choose between multiple credit card processing networks. Americans for Financial Reform, a group of labor unions and progressive advocacy groups, in support: quote:We write to formally endorse the bipartisan, bicameral Credit Card Competition Act and urge its swift passage. It builds on the original 2010 Durbin amendment’s reforms to the debit card market recently updated by the Federal Reserve’s new debit card routing rules. The Credit Card Competition Act addresses a market failure in the credit card payment network, which has long been dominated by the Visa-Mastercard duopoly. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Sep 22, 2023 |
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